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Originally posted by dadudemon
"one" ONLY refers to blacks...I got it. But why can't the general tone of your post imply that you think that he "modern women" runs rampant now? Without reading any of your other posts, that was the general feel of your post to him. If I didn't know your gender or past behaviors, I would say you were a rabid feminist.

Also...

EGADS!!! Having fun on an internet message board! NO WAY!

You can call it opinion, but it's much too obvious. If you think it's closer to 50/50 than it is 100/0, than you're delusional or haven't been around women very much.

Also, your girlfriend is much too young to use her as anecdotal evidence, imo. How many young women her age want a child now? Ask her if she wants a child, ever. Maybe you'll get a different answer that's more in line with reality. (Not that you're arguing that "modern women" are running rampant, because you obviously wouldn't take a stance like that.)

Sorry, my bad. That whole thing about context was getting in the way n'stuff. I should have known that it was something that you didn't actually say, again. I apologize for keeping things in context.

Now how was he supposed to know that that is what you meant? Exactly. Now who was that comment really for? Exactly. It would appear that you are guilty of the same thing you whined about at the top of this post. Bored? Obviously.
Should I answer more of my own questions? YES!

Originally posted by Burning thought
Well thats why you gotta ask em as a friend, and continue to ask them, dig reasons out of them, if you ask them on a "one on one" basis as a friend without the group present, then you would get better answers, obviously in a big group its diffrent, but in a one on one basis they wouldnt be so affected by the social drone mentality.

ofcourse a Drone is likely to only give one of two answers, as you said and as have I, theyll give their drone social view that would most likely convey what soceity would wish to hear, or if they are closer to you and are more of a friend and even better, if your not part of their social group as well as not questioning while their in their group, they may only say "I dont know" and admit that their social view is flawed without actually saying it.

no, you are right

there are 2 types of easily distinguishable people, you are the first person in history to make these divisions and have clearly superior understanding through your subjective personal structure system than any theory supported by clearly unnecessary empirical facts.

so, just wondering, since your brain formed, and since you are only 19 is still forming, based on specific social and external influences acting on internal genetic expression, how are you able to remove the affects of these social influences when making decisions?

(blah, I feel this is an obvious gotcha, but I fear this will be like asking my "psychic" friend to describe the difference between conscious and unconscious thought...)

Originally posted by inimalist
I'm not the one suggesting classification of people based on asking them things as a friend

The, "though" in my post implies that my comment was intended as contradictory to your post. It wasn't. It was a quickly typed post only intended as insight. (I originally typed "incite" which would subconscious manifestation of the general thought of our current discussion. Neat how the brain works, isn't it?)

Originally posted by Bardock42
Once more, a lot of nonsense from dadudemon.

Once more, a lot of "i'm better than everyone" from Bardock42.

Does your girlfiend eventually want children? hmmmm?

Originally posted by inimalist
no, you are right

there are 2 types of easily distinguishable people, you are the first person in history to make these divisions and have clearly superior understanding through your subjective personal structure system than any theory supported by clearly unnecessary empirical facts.

so, just wondering, since your brain formed, and since you are only 19 is still forming, based on specific social and external influences acting on internal genetic expression, how are you able to remove the affects of these social influences when making decisions?

(blah, [b]I feel this is an obvious gotcha, but I fear this will be like asking my "psychic" friend to describe the difference between conscious and unconscious thought...) [/B]

By not thinking of how the world will see you by saying something that it may not agree with and by following whats logical to me. ive never followed social groups, and I have infact been in many so its not because ime an unsocial sort, I simply dont follow the standard view of those groups, infact ime part of several groups which is probably why I dont find it so difficult to block the social influence.

Originally posted by Burning thought
You cannot classify people by any means other than getting into who they are, science cannot od that, science can only provide figuires unfortunatley and although sometimes it can be useful, in the regard ime looking at, no it cant.

lol

you have no idea what science is, let alone what it is capable of, let alone what is known through research. Making any statement about science is an admission of ignorance. You didn't know what an Independent variable was, you showed to have no clue what an experimental control is, you can't put together a coherent theory and have no idea how to define terms in ways they can be interpreted independently of your subjective worldview. You can be forgiven for not being interested or knowledgeable about such things, you cannot be forgiven for trying to speak as if you have any authority on the matter

oh, and btw, your theory is personal, as in referring to individual personalities, and not social

Originally posted by Burning thought
By not thinking of how the world will see you by saying something that it may not agree with and by following whats logical to me. ive never followed social groups, and I have infact been in many so its not because ime an unsocial sort, I simply dont follow the standard view of those groups, infact ime part of several groups which is probably why I dont find it so difficult to block the social influence.

so you admit you have no idea what the implications of neuroplasticity are?

like, everything you described above would have developed in response to social influence earlier in life. Nothing YOU are is not a response to the outside environment. That is not how people work.

Originally posted by inimalist
lol

you have no idea what science is, let alone what it is capable of, let alone what is known through research. Making any statement about science is an admission of ignorance. You didn't know what an Independent variable was, you showed to have no clue what an experimental control is, you can't put together a coherent theory and have no idea how to define terms in ways they can be interpreted independently of your subjective worldview. You can be forgiven for not being interested or knowledgeable about such things, you cannot be forgiven for trying to speak as if you have any authority on the matter

oh, and btw, your theory is personal, as in referring to individual personalities, and not social

I think it is you who have no idea. Not knowing a few words that science would use does not mean I dont know what Science is. if you are suggesting you know what Science is and if your suggesting ime wrong nad Science can indeed classify people using its evidence then please show me what me, dadudemon and many others in this thread have presented to show how Socially people can become drones and often do.

Authority? you do not need Authority, you need common sense and free will, if you are one who requires a mathmatical formulae or scientific paper to understand something so simple then fair enough, but not everyone does.

Its not really individual as soon as it becomes an entire group of peoples and an entire cultural view in the long run.

Originally posted by dadudemon

Once more, a lot of "i'm better than everyone" from Bardock42.

Does your girlfiend eventually want children? hmmmm?

Does your wife eventually not want children, but it is too late? Hmmmmmm?

Originally posted by inimalist
so you admit you have no idea what the implications of neuroplasticity are?

like, everything you described above would have developed in response to social influence earlier in life. Nothing [b]YOU are is not a response to the outside environment. That is not how people work. [/B]

The fact of the matter is, is that i can independantly make decisions myself regardless of what social control/instincts are working on me.

Originally posted by Burning thought
I think it is you who have no idea.

Fail. He does it everyday at his damn job in his lab. He'd lose his job if his work wasn't scientifically executed.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Fail. He does it everyday at his damn job in his lab. He'd lose his job if his work wasn't scientifically executed.

Something can be scientfically executed, but you have the wrong end of the stick, I was saying he does not have any idea on what ime saying, in that so far, nobody in this thread has countered my post with science being able to work out who people are. it can work out "how" through looking at the brain, but no science knows everything which is obvious.

Dude...you consistently say "ime", you must be a ****ing idiot. You can't believe that anyone is going to take you seriously.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Dude...you consistently say "ime", you must be a ****ing idiot. You can't believe that anyone is going to take you seriously.

I dont care what you take or do not take seriously, you seem very young in the mind to think your sad swearing or your interest means anything to me, nor is it an intimidation, ive already got my own research material from you, and other people in the thread and most have shown what ime looking for even without trying...."dude"

Originally posted by Burning thought
I dont care what you take or do not take seriously, you seem very young in the mind to think your sad swearing or your interest means anything to me, nor is it an intimidation, ive already got my own research material from you, and other people in the thread and most have shown what ime looking for even without trying...."dude"

Well, I'd be really worried to turn up in a study as a "mindless drone", but since a prerequisite of being allowed to publish research is the ability to spell "I'm", I think I won't hold my breath quite yet.

Originally posted by Burning thought
I dont care what you take or do not take seriously, you seem very young in the mind to think your sad swearing or your interest means anything to me, nor is it an intimidation, ive already got my own research material from you, and other people in the thread and most have shown what ime looking for even without trying...."dude"

Considering you've brought up sitcoms as proof and now you're using responses on this site for your "research", I shudder thinking what you're writing (considering you're not just a clown-shoe).

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, I'd be really worried to turn up in a study as a "mindless drone", but since a prerequisite of being allowed to publish research is the ability to spell "I'm", I think I won't hold my breath quite yet.

If I was interested in a spell check I would use it, since my own spelling does not bother me and anyone who actually has something interesting to input into this conversation would have my spelling as the last thing on their mind, then it does not bother me in the slightest....ime not interested in childish pickiness to try and prod and poke at every little detail especially when the "childish" character in question (you atm) has so far contributed very little.

Originally posted by Robtard
Considering you've brought up sitcoms as proof and now you're using responses on this site for your "research", I shudder thinking what you're writing (considering you're not just a clown-shoe).

This is the best and perhaps only way to conduct research on matters ime researching, you cannot find out what people really feel and how they react in a low social area, a controlled Guinea pig pig environment, this is the best place to see how humans react and they have shown it.

Originally posted by Burning thought
This is the best and perhaps only way to conduct research on matters ime researching, you cannot find out what people really feel and how they react in a low social area, a controlled Guinea pig pig environment, this is the best place to see how humans react and they have shown it.

I'm certain sociologist around the world agree with you and your paper will usher in a new age in the study.

Originally posted by Robtard
Considering you've brought up sitcoms as proof and now you're using responses on this site for your "research", I shudder thinking what you're writing (considering you're not just a clown-shoe).

Originally posted by Burning thought
If I was interested in a spell check I would use it, since my own spelling does not bother me and anyone who actually has something interesting to input into this conversation would have my spelling as the last thing on their mind, then it does not bother me in the slightest....[b]ime not interested in childish pickiness to try and prod and poke at every little detail especially when the "childish" character in question (you atm) has so far contributed very little. [/B]

Meh, just cause you are unable to detect the value in my contribution does not mean it is non existent. In fact, since you have a clear scheme of whoever agrees with you having something valid to add, and whoever doesn't, regardless of how much fact and logic supports their stance, is disregarded by you, again, I do not worry too much about it. You call me immature of mind, yet at least I have not a pre-determined belief. Nothing makes you better from those drones that you claim exist everywhere, but them choosing a more common understanding to follow, while you enjoy being obscure. Yeah, you are quite the rebel, kid.

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm certain sociologist around the world agree with you and your paper will usher in a new age in the study.

Shouldnt be new at all, since its pretty common knowledge to independant thinkers.