Children

Originally posted by Bardock42
Meh, just cause you are unable to detect the value in my contribution does not mean it is non existent. In fact, since you have a clear scheme of whoever agrees with you having something valid to add, and whoever doesn't, regardless of how much fact and logic supports their stance, is disregarded by you, again, I do not worry too much about it. You call me immature of mind, yet at least I have not a pre-determined belief. Nothing makes you better from those drones that you claim exist everywhere, but them choosing a more common understanding to follow, while you enjoy being obscure. Yeah, you are quite the rebel, kid.

lol or youve contributed nothing of value...all you really have done is say "no thats wrong" and thrown in a few childish insults or attacks.

Although this is a fairly interesting contribution, your little insult of "kid" after ive already called you childish, its like your stamping your feet or something because ive already pointed out your childish nature wheras you call me a kid without actualy pointing something out.

Originally posted by Burning thought
I think it is you who have no idea. Not knowing a few words that science would use does not mean I dont know what Science is. if you are suggesting you know what Science is and if your suggesting ime wrong nad Science can indeed classify people using its evidence then please show me what me, dadudemon and many others in this thread have presented to show how Socially people can become drones and often do.

Authority? you do not need Authority, you need common sense and free will, if you are one who requires a mathmatical formulae or scientific paper to understand something so simple then fair enough, but not everyone does.

Its not really individual as soon as it becomes an entire group of peoples and an entire cultural view in the long run.

just to again point out the height of your ignorance, if you were even passingly familiar with any psychological research, you would know that the classification of people into "groups" is impossible, given the variance in human behaviour. Even mental disorder is very difficult to classify in a discrete way as you are suggesting.

I have no idea what kind of study you, dadudemon, or anyone else want (nor do I think a popularity contest will work here, especially when I can name Nobel Laureates who I am echoing) but it wont exist. People don't fit into the groups you are making. ****.

Originally posted by Burning thought
The fact of the matter is, is that i can independantly make decisions myself regardless of what social control/instincts are working on me.

humans have little understanding about the internal motivations for their actions (any intro to social psych textbook), and can be entirely unaware of moral imperatives they follow (found last summer, I'm at home so I really don't have the tools to track the article down, either in Psychological Science or some other Blackwell publication).

Work on split brain patients shows that you can come up with rich narrative for why you did something even though the real reason is obvious (and not the same). This is basically the lifetime work of Michael Gazzaniga, one of the most pre-eminent neuro-scientists on the planet.

The work of Benjamin Libet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Libet) shows that your brain and body have already prepared for action before you even become aware of the intent to make that action.

Superman? Robot man?

Originally posted by Burning thought
Shouldnt be new at all, since its pretty common knowledge to independant thinkers.

a classification of human only you have the ability to provide?

Originally posted by Burning thought
lol or youve contributed nothing of value...all you really have done is say "no thats wrong" and thrown in a few childish insults or attacks.

Although this is a fairly interesting contribution, your little insult of "kid" after ive already called you childish, its like your stamping your feet or something because ive already pointed out your childish nature wheras you call me a kid without actualy pointing something out.

No one else has a problem understanding it, it's just that you guys are idiots.

No offense, dadudemon, you are not nearly as bad as that fellow here.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Shouldnt be new at all, since its pretty common knowledge to independant thinkers.

Those fortunate few.

Originally posted by Robtard
Those fortunate few.

Originally posted by Bardock42
He and Deano should have a club, though each's "independent thought" will be incompatible with the other's. Oh well, at least they can whine about all them drones/sheeple.

Deano is a conspiracy-clown, this guy is in an idiocy leagues above, that is if he's serious and not just acting like a complete imbecile for whichever reasons.

Originally posted by inimalist
1. just to again point out the height of your ignorance, if you were even passingly familiar with any psychological research, you would know that the classification of people into "groups" is impossible, given the variance in human behaviour. Even mental disorder is very difficult to classify in a discrete way as you are suggesting.

I have no idea what kind of study you, dadudemon, or anyone else want (nor do I think a popularity contest will work here, especially when I can name Nobel Laureates who I am echoing) but it wont exist. People don't fit into the groups you are making. ****.

2. humans have little understanding about the internal motivations for their actions (any intro to social psych textbook), and can be entirely unaware of moral imperatives they follow (found last summer, I'm at home so I really don't have the tools to track the article down, either in Psychological Science or some other Blackwell publication).

Work on split brain patients shows that you can come up with rich narrative for why you did something even though the real reason is obvious (and not the same). This is basically the lifetime work of Michael Gazzaniga, one of the most pre-eminent neuro-scientists on the planet.

The work of Benjamin Libet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Libet) shows that your brain and body have already prepared for action before you even become aware of that action.

Superman? Robot man?

a classification of human only you have the ability to provide?

1. Variance? there is very little real variance, not in the area ime researching, youve either got groups of people who follow what the moral of the soceity is or youve got people who choose their own path, social controlled people/independant thinkers. its not difficult to group those people as ive shown by grouping some in this thread alone a few pages back.

2. regardless of their understanding, a person can choose their own path or they find themselves stuck on a path following social views.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I did, actually, you just missed it. Again, something you share with dadudemon, for some reason you two seem determined to blame me, however straightforward my post might have been, for your lack of reading comprehension.

No one else has a problem understanding it, it's just that you guys are idiots.

No offense, dadudemon, you are not nearly as bad as that fellow here.

oh I just missed it did I? thats lucky....it would look foolish for you if you did indeed have very little to add to this thread and were just disgareeing...

no one else? then perhaps one of those "no one else" can explain it since you seem to rather go on a tantrum.

How do you determine what the "moral of the society" is? Did you do research for that, or did you state it as axiom? How much of a discrepancy is within the limits of being a "drone" at what point do you become an "independent thinker"?

Do you have standards for grouping or do you, as shown in this thread, go by a few comments and your gut feeling?

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. Variance? there is very little real variance, not in the area ime researching, youve either got groups of people who follow what the moral of the soceity is or youve got people who choose their own path, social controlled people/independant thinkers. its not difficult to group those people as ive shown by grouping some in this thread alone a few pages back.

absolute bollocks

again, it shows no familiarity, and even more worrisome, no interest in any kind of familiarity, with the work people have done in the exact same field you claim to be studying.

Do you really think you are the first person on earth to question the individual reasons why people conform?

I linked you to the Asch study, and still, your points don't even include the findings of conformity research.

Originally posted by Burning thought
2. regardless of their understanding, a person can choose their own path or they find themselves stuck on a path following social views.

didn't even try to understand what I'm saying...

clearly I'm too dumb to understand the brilliance of what you are saying. I'm too blinded by sparkly peer reviewed empirical data.

Originally posted by Bardock42
How do you determine what the "moral of the society" is? Did you do research for that, or did you state it as axiom? How much of a discrepancy is within the limits of being a "drone" at what point do you become an "independent thinker"?

Do you have standards for grouping or do you, as shown in this thread, go by a few comments and your gut feeling?

You're playing into his clownery again, he'll either state he already covered this or give a non-answer.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're playing into his clownery again, he'll either state he already covered this or give a non-answer.

So? I can do with my time whatever I please, kind Sir mhm

Originally posted by Bardock42
How do you determine what the "moral of the society" is? Did you do research for that, or did you state it as axiom? How much of a discrepancy is within the limits of being a "drone" at what point do you become an "independent thinker"?

Do you have standards for grouping or do you, as shown in this thread, go by a few comments and your gut feeling?

The moral of the soceity can be many diffirent things from as this thread was digging into, having children to perhaps the idea of the society or social group could be to follow certain fashions or trends. One moral would be popularity.

A Drone is simply someone who has very few independancies, most of their behavior is based around following social views or instinct and they cannot explain it either as their own view. When you become an independant thinker, you would be able to explain things like why you would want/not want children and explain why you would rather do something than not that does not include simply following the rest of the "pack".

A few comments is what I used to point out how what ime saying exists and is being used by many people in the thread even when their trying to oppose me.

Originally posted by Burning thought
When you become an independant thinker, you would be able to explain things like why you would want/not want children and explain why you would rather do something than not that does not include simply following the rest of the "pack".

yes, because the mark of independence is the ability to justify your actions to someone else 😉

Originally posted by inimalist
absolute bollocks

again, it shows no familiarity, and even more worrisome, no interest in any kind of familiarity, with the work people have done in the exact same field you claim to be studying.

Do you really think you are the first person on earth to question the individual reasons why people conform?

I linked you to the Asch study, and still, your points don't even include the findings of conformity research.

didn't even try to understand what I'm saying...

clearly I'm too dumb to understand the brilliance of what you are saying. I'm too blinded by sparkly peer reviewed empirical data.

not really bollocks since youve not proven your point yet, youve simply said "wrong" just there. Show me the evidence that says people are too complex to group please, since you can group people easily by what they do/like without getting complicated, its a simple process, you can group social groups for example.

No but the Asch study is all youve provided that sounds anything like what ime talking about so far.

****ing hell, doesn't anyone else care that this ****tard constantly writes "ime"? No one?

Wait...that means I am an independent thinker. I care about stuff no one else cares about.

****....the burning tard is right....I AM ENLIGHTENED!!!!

Originally posted by Burning thought
A few comments is what I used to point out how what ime saying exists

does this mean we can judge you personally from the use of "ime" in your comments?

as, the use of "ime" instead of "I'm", to me, is an unmistakable sign that someone is a drone. And I can justify that just as well as you can, my friend (too bad you never tried to define anything).

Originally posted by Bardock42
****ing hell, doesn't anyone else care that this ****tard constantly writes "ime"? No one?

Wait...that means I am an independent thinker. I care about stuff no one else cares about.

****....the burning tard is right....I AM ENLIGHTENED!!!!

now your getting a combinaton of Delirious, your adding some interesting research to my list since now your trying to "appeal to audiance" which is your little Robtard friends and others who are opposing me, thus, your following the social pack mentality, you prove my point with every post you try and mock me with and in the end your also showing the chilidsh tantrum. But, I have to admit, fairly amusing.

Originally posted by inimalist
does this mean we can judge you personally from the use of "ime" in your comments?

as, the use of "ime" instead of "I'm", to me, is an unmistakable sign that someone is a drone. And I can justify that just as well as you can, my friend (too bad you never tried to define anything).

Me mispelling a word out of lazyness does not have any connection with being a Drone..... 🙄

Originally posted by Burning thought
now your getting a combinaton of delerous, your adding some interesting research to my list since now your trying to "appeal to audiance" which is your little Robtard friends and others who are opposing me, thus, your following the social pack mentality, you prove my point with every post you try and mock me with and in the end your also showing the chilidsh tantrum. But, I have to admit, fairly amusing.