Originally posted by WolverineX25
Okay so hold on a second...the Question of the Thread was "Which is more powerful?" - Are we arguing how much force behind an energy projectile either can muster, or how much more powerful either blast actually is by itself?The fact that the Silver Surfer can pull from various sources of energy makes all the difference in the world. If the Silver Surfer pulls from a Type G Star (like the Sun), his beams will have so much effect. If he pulls from a Super Red Giant Star, same difference. If he pulls energy from Kryptonite, for example, it would be deadlier to a Kryptonian than an ordinary plasma burst would be.
Surfer's versatility does make a huge difference in this argument. Superman uses his own energy store, plus either a nearby star, in order to power his attacks. His powers aren't infinite, as god-like as he is, he also has limits on his physical strength and energy level.
Not all sources of energy are the same. The Silver Surfer has greater access to his Universe' power supply than Superman does to his. Superman can't access the Source, for example, whenever he feels like it, the Source chooses to protect or power him when it deems it necessary to do so.
Based on the Silver Surfer's access to his Universe's Power Cosmic and nearly unlimited sources and varieties of energy, I have to go with the Silver Surfer. This isn't a question of who can punch harder, this is a question of whose' energy projectiles are more powerful, and in this case, it's the Surfer.
Surfer's blasts tend to have less effect on characters than Superman's HV blast.
Originally posted by WolverineX25
If you are taking an energy source and converting it to its most basic form, then you are right, only the quantity of energy would count, not the type. If you are not converting the energy, but using it's set qualities to your advantage, then it does make a difference.Superman has really only shown to convert energy from a star to power himself and his blasts. The Silver Surfer has used energy sources for far more tasks than simple projection, giving the Silver Surfer more ways to win.
If the Silver Surfer can sense Kryptonite miles away, for example, but can't reach it, he can still draw from his power and create some kind of beam which would damage Superman himself, for example. If the Surfer only pulled from a nearby star and attacked Superman the same, probably no effect.
I know it's not about who would win in a fight, I'm just talking about energy application. Not all of the Silver Surfer's blasts are the same. Most of Superman's force blasts are relatively the same - simple destructive energy. They are not Omega Beams or "the Old Power" or the "Uni-Power" or psychic blasts, or anything other than pure destructive force.
The Silver Surfer can generate just as much destructive force, and more. The Silver Surfer can DO more with the projected energy. Silver Surfer takes it, if you are talking energy blasts alone.
You have literally no idea what you're talking about.
Superman is FAR above Surfer in raw power.
Surfer isn't even close.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah but in this thread, we're just talking about energy blasts. Simple ones, but powerful. Not Surfers 'dna changing blasts' or whatever, but generic ones.
So are you asking about energy blasts from their personal store? Are we going to exclude any and all blasts generated from external sources for the Silver Surfer? Likewise, are we going to exclude any solar power extraction from Superman?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Neither Superman nor Surfer's power are infinite.True. We all know this.
[QUOTE=16366238]Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer's blasts tend to have less effect on characters than Superman's HV blast.
You can find examples for either point, there are times the Silver Surfer's blast have weak effect, and times when they are over-powering. Same with Superman.
Originally posted by panthergod
You have literally no idea what you're talking about.
Nah, I have some idea....
Originally posted by panthergod
Superman is FAR above Surfer in raw power.
In terms of physical strength, yes. In terms of raw power? No, sorry, cannot agree with you there. The Silver Surfer doesn't need to expend his own energy store in order to project energy blasts, he can pull from almost any source imaginable and still retain his stamina.
If the Surfer is isolated in a space where he has no access to a cosmic power source, and let's say he doesn't have his board with him, then yes Superman will over power him. However, in an open space with access to ambient cosmic energies, a local star, a planet, a quasar, etc. the Surfer will have more than enough of what he needs in order to generate necessary force.
With the exception of proximity to the Sun, Superman only has his own power to extract from, and yes, that is limited.
Originally posted by panthergod
Surfer isn't even close.
Untrue. The Silver Surfer is the closest thing to.
Originally posted by WolverineX25
So are you asking about energy blasts from their personal store? Are we going to exclude any and all blasts generated from external sources for the Silver Surfer? Likewise, are we going to exclude any solar power extraction from Superman?
No I'm not.
I'm asking who has on panel shown more power in their blasts. In a simple generic energy blast. In terms of joules,energy.
Originally posted by carver9
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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No I'm not.I'm asking who has on panel shown more power in their blasts. In a simple generic energy blast. In terms of joules,energy.
Well bud, the Silver Surfer has shown on panel to generate beams of microscopic force and then energy blasts that resulted in the destruction of an entire planet. I think the guage of this question may be too vague.
Originally posted by WolverineX25
Well bud, the Silver Surfer has shown on panel to generate beams of microscopic force and then energy blasts that resulted in the destruction of an entire planet. I think the guage of this question may be too vague.
Originally posted by WolverineX25
Well bud, the Silver Surfer has shown on panel to generate beams of microscopic force and then energy blasts that resulted in the destruction of an entire planet. I think the guage of this question may be too vague.
Not really.
If I am capable of finger flicking a booger, and then able to punch a five year old so hard he flies ten feet away....no one is going to say oh gee, it's too hard to gauge how powerful DS can punch!!!!
