Silver Surfer's energy blasts trump Superman's Heat Vision
The Silver Surfer can extract cosmic energies from the universe from virtually any source available. Superman has to actually generate his vision beams, usually from a sunlight recharge.
The Silver Surfer's attacks are more effective, and dare I say that the Silver Surfer would defeat Superman 8/10 times. Superman may be physically stronger than Surf, but the Silver Surfer has more versatility, more accessibility, and more ways to win that fight. But I know, that's another conversation for another thread...sorry. 🙁
Originally posted by WolverineX25
[b]Silver Surfer's energy blasts trump Superman's Heat VisionThe Silver Surfer can extract cosmic energies from the universe from virtually any source available. Superman has to actually generate his vision beams, usually from a sunlight recharge.
The Silver Surfer's attacks are more effective, and dare I say that the Silver Surfer would defeat Superman 8/10 times. Superman may be physically stronger than Surf, but the Silver Surfer has more versatility, more accessibility, and more ways to win that fight. But I know, that's another conversation for another thread...sorry. 🙁 [/B]
Originally posted by Damborgson
I don't know if it's obsession or insecurity that prompted this thread bump
Curiosity.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Huh? How does any of that makes his blast more effective?
Superman's eye beams are not like Darkseid's Omega Effect. The Omega Effect has a specific cosmic / mystic ability to erase, transport, or manipulate the physical and spiritual matter of another being, unless something as powerful as the Source intervenes.
Superman's eye beams are a concentration of his own energy, which is for the most part powered by sun exposure. As god-like as Superman may be, he's not an actual god, he is the last survivor of Krypton. His beams are a concentration of the energy he has within, not a cosmic or mystical force of any kind.
The Silver Surfer on the other hand doesn't have to rely on his own energy stores to produce plasma or energy blasts. The Silver Surfer can pull from an infinite variety of cosmic energies to whatever task is set up for him, not only sun rays. If one form of energy does not work on an opponent, Surf can usurp another.
I'm not saying that Superman cannot defeat the Silver Surfer, he certainly can. But the Silver Surfer just has more advantages.
Originally posted by WolverineX25
Superman's eye beams are not like Darkseid's Omega Effect. The Omega Effect has a specific cosmic / mystic ability to erase, transport, or manipulate the physical and spiritual matter of another being, unless something as powerful as the Source intervenes.Superman's eye beams are a concentration of his own energy, which is for the most part powered by sun exposure. As god-like as Superman may be, he's not an actual god, he is the last survivor of Krypton. His beams are a concentration of the energy he has within, not a cosmic or mystical force of any kind.
The Silver Surfer on the other hand doesn't have to rely on his own energy stores to produce plasma or energy blasts. The Silver Surfer can pull from an infinite variety of cosmic energies to whatever task is set up for him, not only sun rays. If one form of energy does not work on an opponent, Surf can usurp another.
I'm not saying that Superman cannot defeat the Silver Surfer, he certainly can. But the Silver Surfer just has more advantages.
Originally posted by abhilegend
This is just destructive output of their energy blasts.
Right, but the Forum Question was "which is more powerful?" - The Silver Surfer's energy blasts are more powerful per se, simply because he can pull from so many different varieties of energy for almost any given purpose, while Superman's blasts are uniform and from one source of power alone.
I took it to another level with my explanation, I'll admit, but like I said already, I have to go with Silver Surfer's blasts in this contest.
Originally posted by WolverineX25
Right, but the Forum Question was "which is more powerful?" - The Silver Surfer's energy blasts are more powerful per se, simply because he can pull from so many different varieties of energy for almost any given purpose, while Superman's blasts are uniform and from one source of power alone.I took it to another level with my explanation, I'll admit, but like I said already, I have to go with Silver Surfer's blasts in this contest.
That's some ass backward logic.
Originally posted by leonidas
hey, i got an idea--get out of threads and get busy on your OP. can't believe we\re waiting on you. sneer
Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer being powered by different power sources doesn't means he can blast harder than usual.That's some ass backward logic.
Okay so hold on a second...the Question of the Thread was "Which is more powerful?" - Are we arguing how much force behind an energy projectile either can muster, or how much more powerful either blast actually is by itself?
The fact that the Silver Surfer can pull from various sources of energy makes all the difference in the world. If the Silver Surfer pulls from a Type G Star (like the Sun), his beams will have so much effect. If he pulls from a Super Red Giant Star, same difference. If he pulls energy from Kryptonite, for example, it would be deadlier to a Kryptonian than an ordinary plasma burst would be.
Surfer's versatility does make a huge difference in this argument. Superman uses his own energy store, plus either a nearby star, in order to power his attacks. His powers aren't infinite, as god-like as he is, he also has limits on his physical strength and energy level.
Not all sources of energy are the same. The Silver Surfer has greater access to his Universe' power supply than Superman does to his. Superman can't access the Source, for example, whenever he feels like it, the Source chooses to protect or power him when it deems it necessary to do so.
Based on the Silver Surfer's access to his Universe's Power Cosmic and nearly unlimited sources and varieties of energy, I have to go with the Silver Surfer. This isn't a question of who can punch harder, this is a question of whose' energy projectiles are more powerful, and in this case, it's the Surfer.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The sources of energy don't mean much.A Joule of energy from a burger is the same as a Joule from a protein shake.
If you are taking an energy source and converting it to its most basic form, then you are right, only the quantity of energy would count, not the type. If you are not converting the energy, but using it's set qualities to your advantage, then it does make a difference.
Superman has really only shown to convert energy from a star to power himself and his blasts. The Silver Surfer has used energy sources for far more tasks than simple projection, giving the Silver Surfer more ways to win.
If the Silver Surfer can sense Kryptonite miles away, for example, but can't reach it, he can still draw from his power and create some kind of beam which would damage Superman himself, for example. If the Surfer only pulled from a nearby star and attacked Superman the same, probably no effect.
I know it's not about who would win in a fight, I'm just talking about energy application. Not all of the Silver Surfer's blasts are the same. Most of Superman's force blasts are relatively the same - simple destructive energy. They are not Omega Beams or "the Old Power" or the "Uni-Power" or psychic blasts, or anything other than pure destructive force.
The Silver Surfer can generate just as much destructive force, and more. The Silver Surfer can DO more with the projected energy. Silver Surfer takes it, if you are talking energy blasts alone.