The Presence against The Heart of the Infinite

Originally posted by kevdude

The Void and The Source are 1 and the same if that makes any sense.

Originally posted by fangirl101

I said comparing the Source to Galactus was dumb. And it was. they are not comparible. Period

If the Source dies, DC dies right?

Well if Galactus dies, Marvel dies.

In that aspect, they're the same.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I disagree.

If the Source dies, DC dies right?

Well if Galactus dies, Marvel dies.

In that aspect, they're the same.

So Galen=Soucre?

Originally posted by The Great Galen

I just see a lot of folks trying to depower DC character at any given notice.

I posted the Alien Entity creating the Marvel Universe from nothingness,

fangirl's response:

Originally posted by fangirl101

All bullshit.

Get your bullish out of here.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=494735&pagenumber=26

But watch out when he cries victim. 😬

Originally posted by The Great Galen

Im not accusing you of doing such a thing
but why would you assume the source inst omnipotent considering
he is DC writers avatar.

I think you're confusing the Source with Morrison's avatar.

Originally posted by The Great Galen

Supreme beings always end in a stalemate...except in this case he wins.

Writer avatars always beat cosmic beings...always.

Originally posted by kevdude

The Void and The Source are 1 and the same if that makes any sense.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Just wanted to let you know
that not a single one of those scans proves the Void and the Source were one.

It says the Source was born. From the universe. In the scan used as evidence to support your own point.

Can you explain to me (nicely, because this is an honest question) what is going on there, in a way that is true to the scan and not a completely different interpretation?

Originally posted by Mr Master
But you don't see fangirl de-powering Marvel characters?

I posted the Alien Entity creating the Marvel Universe from nothingness,

fangirl's response:

It's on this page:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=494735&pagenumber=26

But watch out when he cries victim. 😬

I have no idea where you're getting that idea from.

I think you're confusing the Source with Morrison's avatar.

Cool, but unfortunately your opinion is based on a non-existent character.

I agree FG could have handled it better, but u have to understand that there is extreme bias going both ways.

Originally posted by Enyalus
It says the Source was born. From the universe. In the scan used as evidence to support your own point.

Can you explain to me (nicely, because this is an honest question) what is going on there, in a way that is true to the scan and not a completely different interpretation?

Originally posted by fangirl101
No. It's says out of THIS was born the Source. As in out of this void's struggle to find cohesion.

Someone gets it 👆

Originally posted by fangirl101
No. It's says out of THIS was born the Source. As in out of this void's struggle to find cohesion.

It never said the Void was prior to the DCU's existence. It states specifically that the universe was simply without form, but also that great energies were born from it and died out...and from all that chaotic mess, The Source was also born. There's nothing eternal about it.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
I agree FG could have handled it better, but u have to understand that there is extreme bias going both ways.

I don't know how much more biased you can get when Mr. Master and I have posted scans specifically stating that Thanos with the Heart was the Supreme Being, that he was omnipotent, that he was Everything, that he destroyed the entire Marvel Universe and recreated all of it.

And yet still say The Presence > THOTI.

It doesn't. They stalemate. They're both Supreme Beings of their omniverses.

Originally posted by fangirl101

There is no Void after the source forms.
Why? Because the Source was the Void without form or direction.

The Source is not the Void,
the Source is the spark given sentience/consciousness,
the Source was born from the struggle of creation.
(that struggle sparked it's existence --- like the struggle to understand sparked the Marvel version)

That's exactly how the Alien Entity created the spark in Marvel,
by the Alien Entity & Reed trying to understand why they are, trying to find purpose:

Imo, this is identical just phrased differently.

Only difference is that the Alien Entity did it with a thought,
and BEFORE the Universe was formless, before there was anything.

👆

AE also created from nothingness what the Source is in Marvel.

Originally posted by fangirl101

But guess who made the void?

THOTI was controlled by TOAA. in order to be completly supreme he would have had to been able to defeat TOAA himself. The presence is the TOAA of DC, Thanos was merely a pawn.

Originally posted by Mr Master
There is no Void cause the Universe is born along with the Source.

The Source is not the Void,
the Source is the spark given sentience/consciousness.

That's exactly how the Alien Entity created the spark in Marvel,
by the Alien Entity & Reed trying to understand why they are, trying to find purpose:

Imo, this is identical just phrased differently.

There's no mention of it.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
THOTI was controlled by TOAA. in order to be completly supreme he would have had to been able to defeat TOAA himself. The presence is the TOAA of DC, Thanos was merely a pawn.

Originally posted by Mr Master
There is no Void cause the Universe is born along with the Source.

The Source is not the Void,
the Source is the spark given sentience/consciousness.

That's exactly how the Alien Entity created the spark in Marvel,
by the Alien Entity & Reed trying to understand why they are, trying to find purpose:

Imo, this is identical just phrased differently.

There's no mention of it.

Tha was only for a single universe though, the source is DCU and not just single universe like the alien entity 🙂

Originally posted by The Great Galen
THOTI was controlled by TOAA. in order to be completly supreme he would have had to been able to defeat TOAA himself. The presence is the TOAA of DC, Thanos was merely a pawn.

Originally posted by Enyalus

It never said the Void was prior to the DCU's existence. It states specifically that the universe was simply without form, but also that great energies were born from it and died out...and from all that chaotic mess, The Source was also born. There's nothing eternal about it.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
THOTI was controlled by TOAA. in order to be completly supreme he would have had to been able to defeat TOAA himself.

I'm tired of hearing this BS. You're either lying or ignorant. There are scans which prove he was NOT controlled. The decisions Thanos made after he had the Heart were his own to make, he was not controlled or manipulated by anyone or anything after he has control of the Heart.

Fact.