The Presence against The Heart of the Infinite

Started by Enyalus51 pages
Originally posted by fangirl101
And yet the Presence would be greater than the Alien Entity because He has no such creator. He is his own. HE is the beginning and the end.

On panel, the AE has no creator, either.

Originally posted by Enyalus
On panel, the AE has no creator, either.

But it does. TOAA. And THE AE is under the LT in power.

Originally posted by fangirl101
But it does. TOAA. And THE AE is under the LT in power.

And the Presence has a creator, too. The writer. Which in Marvel would be TOAA.

Also, where do you get that information, about the AE being under the LT?

Originally posted by Enyalus
And the Presence has a creator, too. The writer. Which in Marvel would be TOAA.

Also, where do you get that information, about the AE being under the LT?


The LT's bio states that no one is more powerful than him but TOAA.

And bringing the writer into this is ignorant. The writer isn't on panel. This is a comics forum. As such we discuss comics characters. not some hack theories of writers and real life. As such, TOAA is the supreme being in marvel comics and it is a character. Unless you can name me one writer named The One above all in real life.

Originally posted by fangirl101
And bringing the writer into this is ignorant. The writer isn't on panel. This is a comics forum. As such we discuss comics characters. not some hack theories of writers and real life. As such, TOAA is the supreme being in marvel comics and it is a character. Unless you can name me one writer named The One above all in real life.

So you can bring up the writers when you want to but I cannot? Then no, the AE has no creator, same with the Infinity Being. The writer created them. And the writer is TOAA, which is why I agreed in the first place. But if we're saying, "No writers" then no, AE and IB have no creators, they have always existed, they created the MU, and are the equal of The Presence too.

Originally posted by Enyalus
So you can bring up the writers when you want to but I cannot? Then no, the AE has no creator, same with the Infinity Being. The writer created them. And the writer is TOAA, which is why I agreed in the first place. But if we're saying, "No writers" then no, AE and IB have no creators, they have always existed, they created the MU, and are the equal of The Presence too.

The TOAA is mentioned on panel. This it is not a writer, it is a character.

TOAA has been seen on panel before.

And yet the Presence would be greater than the Alien Entity because He has no such creator. He is his own. HE is the beginning and the end.

The link in my signature. The Presence was created. You're not only aware of that fact, you're willingly ignoring it.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Exactly that, a Void .. nothingness.

"The Universe was Void and without form."

No it doesn't, it says nothing about the Void,
it does say something about the Universe, that it was a Void. (nothingness)

Telling me something I already know. You say it says nothing about the Void but then you need to read the whole paragraph right? Not just one sentence. You can't pick and chose what is in the scan MM 😉 Out from all of that came The Source which IS Eternal.

Originally posted by Astner
The link in my signature. The Presence was created. You're not only aware of that fact, you're willingly ignoring it.

are you talking about vertigo? I assume you are. his name is YWH.

Just wanted to be post #750.

Originally posted by fangirl101

And bringing the writer into this is ignorant. The writer isn't on panel. This is a comics forum. As such we discuss comics characters. not some hack theories of writers and real life.
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Originally posted by fangirl101
The LT's bio states that no one is more powerful than him but TOAA.

And bringing the writer into this is ignorant. The writer isn't on panel. This is a comics forum. As such we discuss comics characters. not some hack theories of writers and real life. As such, TOAA is the supreme being in marvel comics and it is a character. Unless you can name me one writer named The One above all in real life.

The writer should be brought into this. Thats the point. On panel Thano with the heart has more impressive feats than the presence and has the tool necessary to absorb the entire dcu. He wins.

Originally posted by fangirl101
are you talking about vertigo? I assume you are. his name is YWH.

Do you have the scan where Mxy died and went to go see DC's God and saw him as a artist or writer I believe? 😎

Mr Master & Fangirl, any more trouble from either of you and it's a warning at the very least. I'll be blunt, you both ruin these threads with your sophomoric banter and insults.

Stop posting the same stuff on end, stop flaming, use the ignore or be civil.

are you talking about vertigo? I assume you are. his name is YWH.

Actually his name is Yahweh, which is the english translation of the Hebrew name for god YHWH (yod-heh-waw-heh).

But why was he called the Presence by Uriel? And it seemed that he controlled more universe than just Vertigo. He even left the Vertigo universe.

And even is you statement is true (which you have yet to prove). What makes you think that the Presence of DC is any different from the Presence of Vertigo. The Spectre seems to be about the same in both, as do archangel Michael.

And would this also mean that there's a Presence for each "creation", suggesting that Verigo is one, and DC another?

Isn't the Presence = to TOAA?

If so then Presence > HOTI

Originally posted by Enyalus

But if we're saying, "No writers" then no, AE and IB have no creators,

they have always existed, they created the MU


This is actually all absolutely true. 👆

Originally posted by kevdude
Do you have the scan where Mxy died and went to go see DC's God and saw him as a artist or writer I believe? 😎

Yeah. It was Mike Carlin the Editor. I"ll find it. Superman 75 or something like that.

Originally posted by Astner
Actually his name is Yahweh, which is the english translation of the Hebrew name for god YHWH (yod-heh-waw-heh).

But why was he called the Presence by Uriel? And it seemed that he controlled more universe than just Vertigo. He even left the Vertigo universe.

And even is you statement is true (which you have yet to prove). What makes you think that the Presence of DC is any different from the Presence of Vertigo. The Spectre seems to be about the same in both, as do archangel Michael.

And would this also mean that there's a Presence for each "creation", suggesting that Verigo is one, and DC another?


The Spectre has an infinite amount of Spectre's in other wrealms. Micheal does not seem the same to me. first off all, in vertigo he's part of a DUO that does not exist in the DCU. The Presence rarely shows up in the DCU and has never talked about outside forces shaping him. What is canon to vertigo is only canon to vertigo. It is actually up to you to prove that they are one and the same since they come from DIFFERENT Imprints.