The Presence against The Heart of the Infinite

Eternity is Time incarnated ...

When he raises a Hand which holds Whole UniverseS withIN it,

Past Present and Future"

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"Strange:

"As I suspected,
he's managed to siphon off the Infinite energies of Eternity himself"

Namor:

"You speak as if Dormammu has become some kind of ... GOD."

Strange:

"GOD --- may be too small a word"

Namor:

"We've face self-styled gods before ... everytime we've stopped them"

Strange:

"You don't understand?

Eternity IS A GOD! He is ...
the complete embodiment of everyone and everything ...
... on All levels of Creation"

Originally posted by Mr Master
dontgetit

I have no idea where you saw the name Kismet in my post.

Eternity's form extends across the Omniverse:

A fraction of Eternity's essence creates and destroys UniverseS all day, everyday:

"Wolds within Worlds, Dimensions folding into themselves,
Entire UniverseS being born, and collapsing into ruin,
and yet I sense that ALL This -- is but a fraction of what Eternity is,

the core, the Heart of Eternity's being ... here All Energy, All Matter, lies"

Originally posted by Galan007

you said, "the Source seems to become the sentience of the created Universe" - and the "sentience of the created universe" in DC = kismet.

According to that Source scan,
the Source seems to become the essence/sentience of the created Universe.

There's no mention of Kismet in that scan,
or any of the proceeding scans Kevdude posted,
but the Source is continuously mentioned as the all of the Universe.

Same as Eternity/Infinity are the all of the Marvel Universe.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Doesn't say anything about becoming God,
but he will be shown the nature of God.

Funny how when Starlin himself states in his interview Thanos basically became GOD,
you jump all over "basically" to nitpick it down to something lesser,
but your strategy is quite the opposite here.

😆

Anyhow, over-sized scans won't change anything here:

[B]Entire UniverseS being born, and collapsing into ruin,
and yet I sense that ALL This -- is but a fraction of what Eternity is,

the core, the Heart of Eternity's being ... here All Energy, All Matter, lies[/i]"[/SIZE]

******* SAME shit as touching the Source! *********** [/B]

Originally posted by Mr Master
Well don't blame me for the DC contradictions friend.

According to that Source scan,
the Source seems to become the essence/sentience of the created Universe.

perhaps there was a deeper meaning behind the scan you posted [ie. the source shat out kismet]? who knows/cares?

Originally posted by Galan007
you said, "the Source seems to become the sentience of the created Universe" - and the "sentience of the created universe" in DC = kismet.

fangirl, can you please edit out the over-sized scan? (killing the page)

I only posted it, cause you posted the over-sized Spectre scan.

Originally posted by fangirl101

I don't see anywhere where he touches eternity and bonds to everything.
can you show me again. maybe I missed it.

Of course you missed it, even in that over-sized scan, you missed it. 😐

"I will detonate Eternity's Heart --- triggering another Creation event,
Re-Birthing every being and thing in All the UniverseS"

What else?

Originally posted by Mr Master
😆

Of course you missed it, even in that over-sized scan, you missed it. 😐

"I will detonate Eternity's Heart --- triggering another Creation event,
Re-Birthing every being and thing in [B]All the UniverseS"

What else? [/B]

Originally posted by Galan007

according to every appearence of kismet, that's what she is.
meh, i'll believe several showings over a single one, personally.

I'm only arguing what that scan means because of fangirl,
if that story is inconsequential, non-canon, thanx for the heads up.

But, I'm still confident that at-least in those specific scans Kevdude posted,
the Source is born along with and becomes the essence/sentience of the created Universe.

Originally posted by Galan007

perhaps there was a deeper meaning behind the scan you posted
[ie. the source shat out kismet]? who knows/cares?

Imo, it's also an identical beginning to Eternity/Infinity's.

Originally posted by fangirl101

That doesn't show me anyone touching eternity
and bonding to everythign and having creations born and die within.
I missed it.
Show me where someone touched eternity and boned to everything.

I thought you were joking.

You sincerely don't see Dormy jumping into Eternity's essence here?

He's describing what's going on.

Just like Spectre is doing the same here:

Do you see what Spectre is talking about?

Exactly, me neither.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Wait, you're actually serious?

I thought you were joking.

You sincerely don't see Dormy jumping into Eternity's essence here?

He's describing what's going on.

Just like Spectre is doing the same here:

Do you see what Spectre is talking about?

Exactly, me neither.

Originally posted by fangirl101

That seems very different.

Domy is making an explosion to get the surge of power.

Dormy is heading towards Eternity's core, where all matter and energy lies,
where UniverseS are being born and collapsing simultaneously.

What explosion are you talking about?

Originally posted by Mr Master
What?

Dormy is heading towards Eternity's core, where all matter and energy lies,
where UniverseS are being born and collapsing simultaneously.

What explosion are you talking about?

Originally posted by fangirl101

He says he will detonate Eternity's Heart.

(Dormy/Umar had/shared the power of Eternity, but he only created 616 anew)

But his power to affect countless UniverseS was depicted in the arc,
in fact, at one point, Umar had usurped all the power,
this is what she said:

"My first action as a Supreme Being will be to blast your mind, body and soul,

into a Hundred Billion microscopic pieces,

and scatter you across Ten Thousand Universes"

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Eternity itself though,
is already everything the Spectre was describing concerning God.

btw. I'm not saying Presence = Eternity.

But imo, from what I've read so far concerning what the Source is,
it's identical to what Eternity/Infinity is.

Originally posted by fangirl101

Show me where someone touched eternity and boned to everything.

Originally posted by fangirl101
You still miss it. Byrne explicity says the UNIVERSE was Void and without Form. Thus the Void is the Universe without Form. The Source is the VOID with Form.

👆 agree, Eternity (time) comes afterwards as we see the Living Tribunal is even above him or by MM's standers Eternity would be above the Tribunal, Eternity is a much more glorified Kismet from DC which her name means Fate or the fortune of God. She is the pathway between realities in DC and the protector of the DC Universe.

Originally posted by fangirl101
You still miss it. Byrne explicity says the UNIVERSE was Void and without Form. Thus the Void is the Universe without Form. The Source is the VOID with Form.

You can't interpret your own evidence, apparently. You admit the universe was void and without form (same thing). You admit the void is therefore the universe without form. All good so far.

But to even suggest there is a 'Void with Form' is a contradiction of terms. That is NOT what Byrne says.

The Source is the Universe with Form. And it explicitly states that out of the universe struggling to find form - meaning creating the universe as we know it - sprang the Source. The Source was born from the creation of the universe.

Which is backed up by another scan:

Originally posted by Enyalus
You can't interpret your own evidence, apparently. You admit the universe was void and without form (same thing). You admit the void is therefore the universe without form. All good so far.

But to even suggest there is a 'Void with Form' is a contradiction of terms. That is NOT what Byrne says.

The Source is the Universe with Form. And it explicitly states that out of the universe struggling to find form - meaning creating the universe as we know it - sprang the Source. The Source was born from the creation of the universe.

Which is backed up by another scan:

Which means what?? Both of those scans mean the same thing, its just summed up different, The Source is everything 😱 aka GOD!!

Originally posted by kevdude
Which means what?? Both of those scans mean the same thing, its just summed up different, The Source is everything 😱 aka GOD!!

'Which means what??' LOL

It means the Source was created by the creation of the universe. If you want to call that God - fine by me.