Thor vs. Darkseid

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
hysterical

Do you [b]really expect me to believe that because Superman remembers his adventures with the PC Legion, that the Byrne-era was retconned out of existence? Do you knwo what stories came out of the Byrne era? Death of Superman ring a bell? Oh please. Look. You and me are really not that far off, but you use an obvious assumption to help your premise. And my criticism is quite legitimate because it's the same criticism that's used against Silver Surfer and Thor. But using Geoff Johns reintroduction of the Legion to counter my point? You're really reaching for that kind of attenuated logic? Cmon now. You're better than that. [/B]

Originally posted by fangirl101
That is what a speed blitz is.

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Originally posted by tsscls
Could Thor take control of the DC Earth? All Earthbound heroes included. Current Spectre included. No GL's.

Closed for obvious reasons...

So if Thor vs. DC earth is spite, and DS has currently taken over DC earth. Then DS>Thor.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No,he caught Superman offguard which isnt doesnt mean it was a speedblitz.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Superman was looking right at him. You are insufferable.

wait,you report me if i say shit to you,yet you call someone insufferable?they should report you snitch.practice what you preach 😆

Originally posted by tsscls
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Originally posted by tsscls
Could Thor take control of the DC Earth? All Earthbound heroes included. Current Spectre included. No GL's.

Closed for obvious reasons...

So if Thor vs. DC earth is spite, and DS has currently taken over DC earth. Then DS>Thor.

thats about right 😎

Darkseid ftw

Originally posted by darthgoober
Stay focused on the argument at hand if you want to win, you're not so bad off in it that you have to completely change the subject(which just looks bad). Your scans are irrelevant because they don't feature Thor and whether or not Wolverine has comparable speed to DS is irrelevant unless you have concrete proof that Thor is faster than Wolverine. If you're looking to support an argument that DS can't blitz Thor then you need to draw from Thor's feats, not Wolverine. First thing's first, you have to answer the question "Does Thor have Super Speed?". For an answer to that just look here...

http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengers09814jk8.jpg

Notice in the 4th panel that Quicksilver is among the crowd that Thor cut off with the trench. Quicksilver obviously has Super Speed(and was moving at super speed in the scan) so the fact that Thor was able to box him in like that means that Thor does too, just at an unquantified level(which is pretty standard).

So now that we've established an unquantified level of actual Super Speed for Thor, we need to look at what level his reflexes work at...
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ZThor4.jpg

Tackling the argument like that is much more productive than going off about another character and it's a lot harder for the opposition to counter. And all it takes is basic knowledge of the character's abilities and a trip to the respect thread.

I wasnt using wolverine to indicate thors speed i was using wolverine to show fan girl that moving in blurrs is something that even street levelers has done. I know about everything that you posted and I agree.

Anyhow DS 10/10

Originally posted by Nestical
wait,you report me if i say shit to you,yet you call someone insufferable?they should report you snitch.practice what you preach 😆

It means hard to deal with.

Originally posted by kevdude
thats about right 😎

Originally posted by tsscls
No, that's exactly right. 😆

Indeed. Thor would have gotten his ass handed to him if he were in DS' shoes in Final Crisis. Just doesn't have the tools.

thor can't beat darkseid, nuff said.

with or without the ALE or omega beams DS takes it, he was born w/ the same powers his father has.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Superman was looking right at him. You are insufferable.

Originally posted by Nestical
wait,you report me if i say shit to you,yet you call someone insufferable?they should report you snitch.practice what you preach 😆

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Anyhow DS 10/10

Originally posted by Allankles
Indeed. Thor would have gotten his ass handed to him if he were in DS' shoes in Final Crisis. Just doesn't have the tools.

THOR BREAKS DS, HIS OMEGA EFFECT CAN BE DEFLECTED, AND IF A PERSON IS STRONG ENOUGH THE BEST DS CAN DO IS TELEPORT THEM AWAY. THOR IS A SUPERIOR FIGHTER, AND A BETTER TACTICIAN, AND DON'T FORGET THE NEW GODS ARE THE EFFECT OF RAGNAROCK. I DO BELIEVE THAT IN DC IT STATED THAT THE OLD GODS WERE MUCH MORE POWERFUL THAN THE NEW GODS. NORSE MYTHOLOGY IS THE ONLY MYTHOLOGY WERE RAGNAROCK HAPPENS. ALSO DS IS NOT AS STRONG AS HIS FATHER, HE WASN'T EVEN THE ONE THAT WAS SUPPOSE TO SUCCEED HIM, HE TRICKED HIS OLDER BROTHER. HE DID NOT BEAT HIM, HE TRICKED HIM

Originally posted by SIAFON
THOR BREAKS DS, HIS OMEGA EFFECT CAN BE DEFLECTED, AND IF A PERSON IS STRONG ENOUGH THE BEST DS CAN DO IS TELEPORT THEM AWAY. THOR IS A SUPERIOR FIGHTER, AND A BETTER TACTICIAN, AND DON'T FORGET THE NEW GODS ARE THE EFFECT OF RAGNAROCK. I DO BELIEVE THAT IN DC IT STATED THAT THE OLD GODS WERE MUCH MORE POWERFUL THAN THE NEW GODS. NORSE MYTHOLOGY IS THE ONLY MYTHOLOGY WERE RAGNAROCK HAPPENS. ALSO DS IS NOT AS STRONG AS HIS FATHER, HE WASN'T EVEN THE ONE THAT WAS SUPPOSE TO SUCCEED HIM, HE TRICKED HIS OLDER BROTHER. HE DID NOT BEAT HIM, HE TRICKED HIM

Yugah Says out of his own mouth that DS is the only one capable of Killing him.

DS is also shown that he can use vast martial arts skills to fight. When has Thor ever shown those type of skills?
Also, Odin in DC, has stated on panel that DS had grown in power beyond what he and highfather combined could handle.

DS is as strong as his father; he was going to rear him before being trapped in the source wall. Why do you think DS's mother raised him the way she did to become so evil? Why do you think she killed the only person he ever loved? Pre omega force DS owned many gods anyway, tricking and manipulating them or taking them out with force. Yuga tells high father that only DS can kill him but that he wouldn't because he's his father, and DS never has tried to either. Hell half this stuff is in the respect thread shows this and none of it has been ret conned.

Originally posted by fangirl101
This is ALL wrong.

Yugah Says out of his own mouth that DS is the only one capable of Killing him.

DS is also shown that he can use vast martial arts skills to fight. When has Thor ever shown those type of skills?
Also, Odin in DC, has stated on panel that DS had grown in power beyond what he and highfather combined could handle.

Current DS is a legitimate skyfather while current Thor doesnt even come off as being >classic version. DS for the overwhealming majority.