Is atheism a sin?

Started by Grand-Moff-Gav7 pages

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
Catholics 馃槚

Romans 11:32 "For God hath concluded them ALL in unbelief (Born into sin) That He may show Mercy upon ALL"

You give one passage and say Jesus talks more about hell than anything else.

The only punishment is SHEOL,The Grave, Death(No Eternal Life with God) NOTHINGNESS!!!


Check out Romans 2:7-9 and 2 Thessalonians 1:9

As for language what about Gehenna or Tartarus?

(Are you rebutting Jesus with Paul? Interesting for one with views such as yourself.)

((P.S I am cheating and just throwing the Wiki-examples at you...but I have a few million books on this by real theologians we could get out?))

22But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca,' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell. Matthew 5:22
8If your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire. 9And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell.Matthew 18:8-9
43If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out. 45And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than to have two feet and be thrown into hell. 47And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell, 48where " 'their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.' 49Everyone will be salted with fire.Mark 9:43-49

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
What about Gehenna or Tartarus?

(Are you rebutting Jesus with Paul? Interesting for one with views such as yourself.)

No Sir I was rebutting HELL with Paul.

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
No Sir I was rebutting HELL with Paul.

A man once went to Padre Pio and said,
"Father, I won't be going to confession any more..."
Padre Pio asked the man why, had he lost his faith?
"No" replied the man, "But I don't need to confess, because I don't believe in Hell."
"Oh? You'll believe in it, when you get there" replied Padre Pio.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
A man once went to Padre Pio and said,
"Father, I won't be going to confession any more..."
Padre Pio asked the man why, had he lost his faith?
"No" replied the man, "But I don't need to confess, because I don't believe in Hell."
"Oh? You'll believe in it, when you get there" replied Padre Pio.

And the man laughed saying, "That all you got? Well, see you Thursday."

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
And the man laughed saying, "That all you got? Well, see you Thursday."

Meh, it worked in the middle ages...

The man will be dead now, wonder if he did go there in the end...馃檨

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Check out Romans 2:7-9 and 2 Thessalonians 1:9

As for language what about Gehenna or Tartarus?

(Are you rebutting Jesus with Paul? Interesting for one with views such as yourself.)

((P.S I am cheating and just throwing the Wiki-examples at you...but I have a few million books on this by real theologians we could get out?))

Romans 2:8-9 "But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness,indignation and wrath. Tribulation and anguish upon every soul of man that doeth Evil." This is in regards to life on earth the consequences of disobedience in mortal life.

2 Thessalonians 1:9 "Who shall be punished with everlasting DESTRUCTION from the presence of the Lord and from the Glory of his power" "Destruction" from the presence of the Lords glory. Again Sheol (Separation from god)(Death, Nothingness.) Not eternal Hell

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
Romans 2:8-9 "But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness,indignation and wrath. Tribulation and anguish upon every soul of man that doeth Evil." This is in regards to life on earth the consequences of disobedience in mortal life.

2 Thessalonians 1:9 "Who shall be punished with everlasting DESTRUCTION from the presence of the Lord and from the Glory of his power" "Destruction" from the presence of the Lords glory. Again Sheol (Separation from god)(Death, Nothingness.) Not eternal Hell

It kinda...contradicts everything Jesus was saying then doesn't it...

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
It kinda...contradicts everything Jesus was saying then doesn't it...

No ....Not at all!!! 馃槑

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
No ....Not at all!!! 馃槑

It all boils down to interpretation, but that is the wonder of Christ's grace, we are all saved regardless of our human interpretations. 馃檪

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
It all boils down to interpretation, but that is the wonder of Christ's grace, we are all saved regardless of our human interpretations. 馃檪

What about the people that go to Hell? What about Hitler? Or Stalin? Or Richard Dawkins? Or Satan?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
What about the people that go to Hell? What about Hitler? Or Stalin? Or Richard Dawkins? Or Satan?

The rules do not apply....

DUH!

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
It all boils down to interpretation, but that is the wonder of Christ's grace, we are all saved regardless of our human interpretations. 馃檪

I'm dumbfounded that you said this Gav. That has been my point all along. 馃拑

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
What about the people that go to Hell? What about Hitler? Or Stalin? Or Richard Dawkins? Or Satan?

I was referring to Christians, I apologise- they are going to hell possibly...

I dunno how strict the Big Man is with it...

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
I'm dumbfounded that you said this Gav. That has been my point all along. 馃拑

I have to come back to this, I lied there is a hell.

(Yes, if your not a believer you are probably going there.)

only a sin if you have heard the gospels and dismissed them.... but if you are ignorant you are forgiven

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
only a sin if you have heard the gospels and dismissed them.... but if you are ignorant you are forgiven

Only a sin if the god of the bible is real. 馃槃

i was assuming that it was based on the bible and enterpretation...
with what was written inside.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i was assuming that it was based on the bible and enterpretation...
with what was written inside.

Are you staying inside the box?

i really shouldnt ppl tend to sufficate and die 馃槢