Originally posted by fangirl101
I know about god cable. do you know about MM entering the minds of abstracts and Gods.
As I said, the term "god" is relative.
What gods are you talking about specifically?
I also hope you aren't talking about him getting inside Starro's mind because he is far far from a god.
If it was just some random character we know nothing about that they simply called a god, well, we have no idea how powerful he is.
Originally posted by Surtur
As I said, the term "god" is relative.What gods are you talking about specifically?
I also hope you aren't talking about him getting inside Starro's mind because he is far far from a god.
If it was just some random character we know nothing about that they simply called a god, well, we have no idea how powerful he is.
So I guess we've come full circle and Flash is back to dropping people at the beginning of time, a bajillion infinity strength level punches and hiding from Deathstroke again.
Originally posted by Surtur
You do realize I'm talking about the strongest versions of Cable? Whom you are obviously blissfully unaware of if you think MM would own him.Plus the term "god" is relative, it's not like he mindscrewed the spectre or something. Humans consider Superman to be a god, but compared to actual gods..he isn't one. Or look at Dragonball Z, they said Kami was god of the earth, and supreme kai was god of the universe, yet neither of them are more powerful than Goku or someone like Superman.
Kami was god of earth, point? Supreme Kai was the creator, just because Goku was ridiculously powerful doesn't diminish their godhood. The Supreme Kai would turn Supes into a tree.
Originally posted by TheBadguy
So I guess we've come full circle and Flash is back to dropping people at the beginning of time, a bajillion infinity strength level punches and hiding from Deathstroke again.
Who said he is dropping people at the beginning of time? Bottom line is, Flash can move at several times the speed of light. getting punched by something moving that fast? Yeah most people wouldn't survive it. Even people like Superman can't take that for long.
Kami was god of earth, point?
The point was, just because someone is called a God, doesn't mean they are some uber powerful cosmic. So saying " he read the mind of a god" really tells me nothing at all. Gods in fiction have varying power levels.
Supreme Kai was the creator, just because Goku was ridiculously powerful doesn't diminish their godhood.
As I said, just because someone is called a God doesn't magically grant them omnipotence, etc. Supreme Kai, really isn't that powerful when compared to other beings in fiction who aren't gods. Silver Surfer for example drastically out-powers him, yet he isn't a god.
The Supreme Kai would turn Supes into a tree.
I'm sure, and Goku can destroy galaxies with his pinky.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Actually Starro was uberly powerful. It actually took Sandman to finally get the job done. As for Gods and abstracts, i'm thinking more of the lines of Mageddon the God killer, the Spectre, Stuff like that.
I'm sorry but, if MM read Spectres mind, it's because he allowed it to happen. Spectre is on a completely different tier of power than J'onn. If he didn't want J'onn in his mind, he wouldn't of been in there.
You also aware that when you say "it took sandman to get the job done" when referring to Starro, that was after the JLA defeated it and drove it away, then Sandman imprisoned the mental manifestation of it, and if I remember, that wasn't even the same Starro that J'onn had fought before.
With Mageddon we once again run into a problem..what gods did this thing actually kill? Did it ever say?
Wouldn't it be dangerous to try and beat the hulk with tp with all those other incartions stuck in his head??
I mean wouldn't it be possible for other incartions to come out who are even more dangerous than wwh.
Like devil hulk who has no feat, but still they said he could be the most powerful version of the hulk.
I'm not saying he could win heck some are even able to solo the hulk.
He just lacks, speed, flight, range attacks (I know he got the thunderclap).
Some of them have the tools to end this fight quick.
And that's the best thing to do against this hulk.
Originally posted by Brutacus
Wouldn't it be dangerous to try and beat the hulk with tp with all those other incartions stuck in his head??
I mean wouldn't it be possible for other incartions to come out who are even more dangerous than wwh.
Like devil hulk who has no feat, but still they said he could be the most powerful version of the hulk.
It's been acknowledged that using TP on the hulk wouldn't be effective, but J'onn has many other options.
I'm not saying he could win heck some are even able to solo the hulk.
He just lacks, speed, flight, range attacks (I know he got the thunderclap).
Some of them have the tools to end this fight quick.
And that's the best thing to do against this hulk.
Well, at least some people aren't brain dead enough to take the hulk/sentry fight seriously.
Originally posted by Surtur
It's been acknowledged that using TP on the hulk wouldn't be effective, but J'onn has many other options.Well, at least some people aren't brain dead enough to take the hulk/sentry fight seriously.
Not saying J'onn can't beat him in a other way.
Was just thinking what would happen iff a uber tp user would try and shut his mind down or whatever.
Originally posted by Surtur
Who said he is dropping people at the beginning of time? Bottom line is, Flash can move at several times the speed of light. getting punched by something moving that fast? Yeah most people wouldn't survive it. Even people like Superman can't take that for long.The point was, just because someone is called a God, doesn't mean they are some uber powerful cosmic. So saying " he read the mind of a god" really tells me nothing at all. Gods in fiction have varying power levels.
As I said, just because someone is called a God doesn't magically grant them omnipotence, etc. Supreme Kai, really isn't that powerful when compared to other beings in fiction who aren't gods. Silver Surfer for example drastically out-powers him, yet he isn't a god.
I'm sure, and Goku can destroy galaxies with his pinky.
It means something, you can't just brush it aside. If theirs more than one of course it doesn't automatically mean omnipotence. he was powerful enough to make the universe along with the other 4. and goku can one shot planets unlike someone else 🙄
GL isn't doing it especially when weaker enemies have broke out out his containment.
Superman would give him a fight but would end up the way he did when Konvikt flattened him out.
The Spikes would be a very bad thing since they could turn any organic life form (including grass) into more Spikes, I'd hate to see what would happen to J'onn, Batman, Wonder Woman, Hawkgirl,The Flash and perhaps even Superman if they were infected by them.
The Warbound Korg and Hiroim are still heavy hitters, and even though Hiroim was getting beaten by Zom Strange, the fact that he was still standing after the assault is a testament of his toughness.
The JLA would lose a few, and the ones they did lose would be too horrifying to publish.
Originally posted by Stoic
GL isn't doing it especially when weaker enemies have broke out out his containment.Superman would give him a fight but would end up the way he did when Konvikt flattened him out.
The Spikes would be a very bad thing since they could turn any organic life form (including grass) into more Spikes, I'd hate to see what would happen to J'onn, Batman, Wonder Woman, Hawkgirl,The Flash and perhaps even Superman if they were infected by them.
The Warbound Korg and Hiroim are still heavy hitters, and even though Hiroim was getting beaten by Zom Strange, the fact that he was still standing after the assault is a testament of his toughness.
The JLA would lose a few, and the ones they did lose would be too horrifying to publish.