Originally posted by truejedi
Sabers: Yoda 9/10
Force: Yoda 10/10
All-Out: Yoda 10/10
and to support my force analysis: How many council members did Vader ever fight after recieving the suit? Kenobi in ANH, which was not a force battle. any others? i can't think of them. Vader, in suit, dominated non-force sensitives and Jedi who were not nearly top tier in the PT. Yoda >>>>>> than all of them. Vader would have to do something in the force against an actual quality opponent. Nearest he has come is Starkiller, however, in the situations where his TK was effective, starkiller never even attempted to fight back, so you would have to throw that out. Rahm kota doesn't begin to count, as he was beaten by starkiller in starkillers very first encounter with a jedi when Galen is as weak as we've seen him.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
And Yoda has been shown tooling troop ships with the force, hurdling back senate pods, and KOing two Royal Guards without lifting a finger.
In ROTS Yoda used his hands when using the force always. He wave his hand when he KO the guards and threw the senate pods. I do not know what movie you saw.
The point is Vader could use TK quite well when in saber combat. He could also use force choke without lifting a finger. This will not be an easy win for Yoda.
Vader's slow when compared to other top tiers. Yoda's about as fast as they get. His Ataru is perhaps the best ever. He wins sabers with ease.
Vader's strong in the Force, but if Palpatine couldn't get through Yoda's defenses, Vader isn't either. Yoda does a Sever Force or a number of other exotic light side techniques and wins with ease.
All out would just be a combination of the two. Either way, Yoda for the sweep.
Originally posted by EnyalusVader is 80% as powerful as OT Sidious, who you stated was "far" more powerful than his RotS counterpart. Vader is probably very close to RotS Palpatine in Force-power.
Vader's strong in the Force, but if Palpatine couldn't get through Yoda's defenses, Vader isn't either. Yoda does a Sever Force or a number of other exotic light side techniques and wins with ease.