Originally posted by h1a8
Prove that Thanos can even harm or damage Onslaught in the slightest?
Look at it this way. I don't know if you've read the original Onslaught saga, but if you did then you would know that Apocalypse curbstomped Onslaught on his own and would have destroyed him if some of the dumb heroes didn't intervene because of a misconception about what Apoc was trying to do.
Now who do you think would win, Thanos or Apocalyse?
Obviously Thanos.
Onslaught is bitchmade to the core. He obtained most of his power from taking control of Franklin Richards, and even then Apoc defeated him before Franklin's mommy and friends stopped him because they thought he was trying to get Franklin's power too.
If you've read Onslaught Reborn then you would know what a weak pushover Onslaught really is. Take a look at this picture, Cap easily makes him bleed and right afterwards Onslaught actually whines about how much it hurt him.
For Earth-based villains, Onslaught was considered rather powerful (while he had control of Franklin's power). But when you take into account all the universe has to offer, Onslaught is a weak bug. If Thanos faught Onslaught he would curbstomp him with unseen and unrelenting force and literally make him cry like a girl. They might as well rename him Weakslaught.
As for the new Red Onslaught, there hasn't been enough information released to know how big of a threat he is.
Originally posted by h1a8Where does this post defend your points on Onslaught who is in this thread?
The post is hinting that Odin was using below average power on Thanos.
This is because of the Galactus showing and the galaxy busting showing with Odin.
Thanos breaking his outer shell won't even be much of an issue since we already saw Thanos endure and overcome many different dimension's unique form of reality warp without effort. Besides that his other big feats off top were creating a second sun and beating juggernaut, which allegedly is more so cause of Charles' past + ill intent
Originally posted by Cosmic_Beings
Look at it this way. I don't know if you've read the original Onslaught saga, but if you did then you would know that Apocalypse curbstomped Onslaught on his own?
And when excatly Apocalypse did that? I really don't remember anything like that.
Apocalypse>everyone combined who fought Onslaught
Originally posted by psycho gundamhttp://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/uxm336pg17.jpg
Thanos breaking his outer shell won't even be much of an issue
And it's not like he was impervious to harm anyway
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/35-Onslaught-MarvelUniverse-06.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/35-Onslaught-MarvelUniverse-07.jpg
Although I'm curious if anyone voting for Onslaught actually read the two later minis that involved him.
Originally posted by psycho gundamTraveling between dimensions restored Thanos, not Thanos.
Where does this post defend your points on Onslaught who is in this thread?Thanos breaking his outer shell won't even be much of an issue since we already saw Thanos endure and overcome many different dimension's unique form of reality warp without effort. Besides that his other big feats off top were creating a second sun and beating juggernaut, which allegedly is more so cause of Charles' past + ill intent
Bran is using Onslaught's low showings to gauge him. Let's not forget how Thor rock the shit out of Thanos several times. Hulk cracked Onslaught's armor, weakening it. So any feats against his armor (except Hulk) is void.
Originally posted by h1a8rock the shit out of him, Thor never did any damage to Thanos like he did Onslaught.
Traveling between dimensions restored Thanos, not Thanos.Bran is using Onslaught's low showings to gauge him. Let's not forget how Thor rock the shit out of Thanos several times. Hulk cracked Onslaught's armor, weakening it. So any feats against his armor (except Hulk) is void.
And we saw how powerful Thors lightening charge hammer shorts were.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
rock the shit out of him, Thor never did any damage to Thanos like he did Onslaught.And we saw how powerful Thors lightening charge hammer shorts were.
Comics, many times, didn't show damage way back then. Thor rocked Thanos with Mjolnir shots. Energy projection is something different and blunt force.
Thor damaged Onslaught only because Hulk created a crack, and cyclops softened it up more.
One of those was a pivotal moment of the Onslaught saga (freeing Xavier), and one of those was in the same comic Hulk fought Onslaught in.
Though I'm curious of his durability showings that would regard these as low feats. And I'm curious as to how someone's requote from the top of the page is "Prove that Thanos can even harm or damage Onslaught in the slightest?" and yet he complains about proof that Thanos could.
Also lol at H1 admitting he never read the Onslaught Saga.
This is the guy who the biggest defender of Onslaught. The guy who thinks Hulk cracking his armor somehow happened before anything else (besides his energy form). Jesus, Onslaught's ending is like the most popular issue out of the whole event, and actually has his name in the title of the book...
Beating a dead horse here, but ignore function is there for a reason. At the very least it would save me from having to read facemelting stupidity people feel the need to respond to.
Xplosive is the only person here defending Onslaught who's sole reason for an account isn't to hate on Thanos, and who (likely) reads comics. Respond to him instead.
Meh.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
lol.1) in between each warp he reverted to normal, now since i don't have it on me atm i won't go further
2) now you're plain wrong as the hulk thing happened AFTER the heroes damaged onslaught as a team.
1. Yes, between dimensions he reverted to normal. The effects wore off when Thanos left a dimension. The feat is that he survived.
2. Wow, I always though Hulk cracked him and the others took advantage of that. Then what the phuck was all the Hulk hype about then?
Originally posted by h1a8many times when?
Comics, many times, didn't show damage way back then. Thor rocked Thanos with Mjolnir shots. Energy projection is something different and blunt force.
Thor damaged Onslaught only because Hulk created a crack, and cyclops softened it up more.
The only time it happened is when Thanos allowed it and was putting on a show for death.
This is backed up by how Thanos handled his hammer shots in infinity and how how he took Thor's shots with the PG.
Actually back up what you're saying with a valid argument.
Also, when Hulk broke Onslaught's armor, he wasn't even enhanced in anger. He just had Banner shut off exactly like what happened previously in 295 iirc though under different circumstances obviously.
Hulk wasn't even operating above his natural Mindless persona (outside his second encounter with it), he was just normal Mindless Hulk who was pissed off completely under his own power.
Sorry, just see this all the time of how Jean enhanced him.
Hulk was simply Hulk. Not some special occurrence Hulk (outside again it being Mindless). I can only imagine what WWH would have done to Onslaught.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftSo Onslaught is so weak that any high herald being can beat him?
Also, when Hulk broke Onslaught's armor, he wasn't even enhanced in anger. He just had Banner shut off exactly like what happened previously in 295 iirc though under different circumstances obviously.
Hulk wasn't even operating above his natural Mindless persona (outside his second encounter with it), he was just normal Mindless Hulk who was pissed off completely under his own power.Sorry, just see this all the time of how Jean enhanced him.
Hulk was simply Hulk. Not some special occurrence Hulk (outside again it being Mindless). I can only imagine what WWH would have done to Onslaught.
Just look at the evidence you posted. He gets his shell broken by cyclops (who can't really affect high herald level beings in a forum fight) and Thor.
So in reality Surfer, Thor, Superman, etc. should beat Onslaught. CA after all has hurt him with his shield. Superman should atomize Onslaught then. Onslaught is just a meta being at best. 🙄
So there's a severe problem when talking about onslaught.
In his regular form he is the amalgam of Xavier and magneto..
The problem is that at his peak he was fusing with Nate grey and Franklin Richards on top of Xavier and magneto but was never fully realized....
The form we see in the follow ups is just Xavier and magneto without the other two merged... So he was never as powerful later as he was at his peak.... However he was shown to be able to take over the minds of numerous heroes.... That weren't mutants...
The one key power onslaught has... And the reason for the fear related to him during his peak was that mutants could not attack him for fear of merely adding to his power... That's why during the heroes reborn saga only non mutants had been taken to the world created by Franklin Richards...
And thanos being a mutant eternal... Well there's no telling if onslaught can absorb the nihilistic purple one... But if he could it's almost a non battle...
And his feats such as ripping Nate grey from the astral plane, messing with juggernaught and various sentinels... He isn't trifling...in his weaker form....
However at his peak he is a real threat because of how powerful he can become... Which is why he faces off against the ff4 and/or the avengers... Because putting him against mutants is too much of a non fight..
