Originally posted by carver9
So with this sun amp superman could basically be on the level on a regular confindence glads. Well to bad gladiator can amp his already unknown abilities and again, if he dont want to be touched he cant be touched since he has on panel proof proving this. Sersi is the slowest but do you have any ON PANEL proof of anyone on team one fighting at light speed, let alone the speed of sound. When you put up this scan I want you to show me where it say that they were fighting at this tremendous speed.Glads> anyone on the battle field if we go by on panel feats. A full confidence glads, we dont know where he is at. Again thor is my favorite character and I think that thor is the most powerful then almost any being that has been brought up on the forum but if he was put against gladiator, a well written gladiator then glads should win every damn time.
On panel Superman can make himself unstoppable by any force in the universe. 🙂
If we go by on panel feats... Superman is still > Gladiator AND on top of that has more powers/abilities.
Originally posted by Avlon
On panel Superman can make himself unstoppable by any force in the universe. 🙂If we go by on panel feats... Superman is still > Gladiator AND on top of that has more powers/abilities.
Thats pre crisis superman and on panel feats have gladiator>> superman since superman needed the aid of wonder woman and martian manhunter to move the moon whereas gladiator could have done that under his own power without any struggles.
What speed has superman top speed been quoted at without any outside interference, glads has been 100 times the speed of light, has the speed of light even been quoted for the man of steel yet. Glads has busted a planet open under his own strength, show me something comparable and I know you, youre going to post the zod vs superman fight, I want you to post the entire fight so I can show you why the area around them was being destroyed. Also on panel gladiator has shown cosmic energy leaving his body when he was fighting the surfer, so he is a cosmic entity and didnt I put up a scan where the narrator announce him as s god.
Nova also stated that gladiator isnt just the strongest being on a planet he said that gladiator is one of the strongest beings in the universe, this is also something that was said by professor x, gladiator has no limits. Lets also not forget the fact that gladiator was going to punch cannonball from the earth to the core of the sun, I dont think thats a feat that anyone can duplicate. Glads has broken the band of cyttorak by flexing his muscles, one shotted binary, a high herald and was stated on panel as being surfers equal. Glads has every right to be>> superman.
Originally posted by carver9'Cept when Colossus made him look like he's been through war, and when he was hurt by Gambit.
Well if we go by on panel feats then gladiator is one of the most powerful top tiers out there.The entire xmen combined cant put a scratch on gladiator.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/gladiatorxmen.jpgLets not forget that gladiator can move planets out of orbit if he wanted which put him on the high top chain of dc if he was there since that is basically something that only superboy prime has done.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll222/CapztehLumby/SheHulk70076.jpg
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8489/gladpower10ym.jpgLets not forget that professor files states that gladiator can do anything when he put his mind to it. It also stated that gladiator powers has no limits. So that could be the reason he pulled this feat off.
"If I dont want to be touched"
http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1uh8.jpgLets not forget that gladiator dont get his powers from the sun but guess what, the guy swammed in a star millions of miles long and didnt have a scratch.
http://img342.imageshack.us/img342/1434/gladiatornuclearinferno2uc.jpgHas it EVER been SAID (main word,SAID) on panel that superman can go light speed, well on panel it was said about gladiator and guess what gladiator top speed that was SAID on panel, 100 times the speed of light.
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/7296/hyperspeed11mv.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/3034/ego067lu.jpgTheres a nice scan showing superman being called a cosmic being by imperex. Well lets take a look at what the NARRATOR called gladiator.
A damn god.
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/6690/gladiatorvsplanet24rd.jpgI love this one. Hyperion has never his entire career been injured except by his own evil persona and then he was half powered. Thor knocked him out by sneeking him but all in all hyperion is completely invulnerable but guess who did the impossible and broke his neck.
http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gladiatorvshyperion063ae.jpg
Surfer admits that gladiator is his equal and if you look at there fight you'll see cosmic energy coming from both and the narrator also bring it up.
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/2195/gladiatorvssilversurfer029iz.jpg
Not that I don't agree or anything, but he's never moved a planet out of orbit on panel.
So, he wants to be touched every other time?
'-- That drives him to push himself to the limits of even his invulnerability... '
You just contradicted your previous statement.
Both of the scans you used were near lightspeed velocity, and one was an alternate universe.
Why show scans that don't show anything? He's not a God, and everyone knows this.
Hyperion has also never really fought anyone noteworthy either. He's got Hulk I believe (where he was KO'ed due to the sound of a sonic clap, which would technically be hurting him), Thor, and WM. And anyway, Hype has been hurt a lot in his career; no need to make something up to make it even better.
However, since we're into statements... Hyperion was called the strongest man in the universe, so that's pis anyway. Gladiator can't break his neck.
That was also an alternate universe/non-canon...
Originally posted by Red Hulk
'Cept when Colossus made him look like he's been through war, and when he was hurt by Gambit.Not that I don't agree or anything, but he's never moved a planet out of orbit on panel.
So, he wants to be touched every other time?
'-- That drives him to push himself to the limits of even his invulnerability... '
You just contradicted your previous statement.Both of the scans you used were near lightspeed velocity, and one was an alternate universe.
Why show scans that don't show anything? He's not a God, and everyone knows this.
Hyperion has also never really fought anyone noteworthy either. He's got Hulk I believe (where he was KO'ed due to the sound of a sonic clap, which would technically be hurting him), Thor, and WM. And anyway, Hype has been hurt a lot in his career; no need to make something up to make it even better.
However, since we're into statements... Hyperion was called the strongest man in the universe, so that's pis anyway. Gladiator can't break his neck.That was also an alternate universe/non-canon...
Show me where colossus made him look like he been through war, a nice scan would help and lets not talk about low showing because I promise you that superman low showings is a lot worse then gladiator, batman comes to mind.
Hyperion fought the entire avengers, including thor and stalemated him. Hyperion defeated thor, wonderman and vision. By all means hyperion is a true top tier and I promise you that he could give superman a fight, he might not win but he would give him a challenge. He's everything superman is with a healing factor that makes immortals look like shit.
Show me a scan of hyperion being damaged besides the time he fought his clone. By the way, that hyperion and gladiator fight was cannon.
A nice scan would help showing something stating that hyperion is the strongest in the universe. If we are talking about earth x hyperion, I agree and I also think that he would whip both superman and gladiator ass at the same time.
Why wouldnt you consider gladiator god like when he has on panel proof making him look like one. Swimming through stars, flying in the heart of a solar system destroying blast without even register in. Moving planets under his own power and ripping through planets. On panel proof that he is able to fly 100 times the speed of light, one handing the baxter building. About to punch sam from the earth to the core of the sun; being known as one of the strongest beings in the universe. Stated on panel that if he kept fight supreme they would have destroyed the solar system. Throwing a ship the size of texas at eye blinding speed. Walking through titanium in new xmen like it was aluminum foil. The walls was stated as being unbreachable. Hell, he might not be a god but he is truly above top tier and is pulling of things that high heralds cant even do.
I guess he do wants to be touched since he like to brawl and he has been trained by the best martial artist shiar has to offer. Dont take away his ability because you dont like it. On panel proof>>>>>>your words.
By the way, he did move a planet under his own strength, the scan is on his respect thread. I tried to pull it up but it wouldnt allow me because the scan is old. Its well within his power to do this.
Both of the scans you used were near lightspeed velocity, and one was an alternate universe.
Now show me a scan where its saying that superman blitzed at near light speed, hell show me a scan of him blitzing something at the speed of sound.
The last scans that I seen that quoted superman speed was one where superman stated himself that he cant go the speed of light. Another one was when doctor light stated that he wasnt going close to the speed of light. Another one was when he was racing flash and the only speed that was giving in that race was 2000 mps even though it said that they were accelerating. Another one was when a being was asking superman was he TRYING to go the speed of light. I provided you with on panel proof, do the same for me.
Originally posted by carver9
Thats pre crisis superman and on panel feats have gladiator>> superman since superman needed the aid of wonder woman and martian manhunter to move the moon whereas gladiator could have done that under his own power without any struggles.
Umm no..that's post crisis superman. 🙂
Give credit where it's due.
Originally posted by carver9
What speed has superman top speed been quoted at without any outside interference, glads has been 100 times the speed of light, has the speed of light even been quoted for the man of steel yet.
Are you referring to when Glads got caught in that explosion? You do know even Matrix (who's nowhere near as fast as a kryptonian) has traveled the universe under her own power as well, right?
Originally posted by carver9
Glads has busted a planet open under his own strength, show me something comparable and I know you, youre going to post the zod vs superman fight, I want you to post the entire fight so I can show you why the area around them was being destroyed.
Why even bother with that when Supes has held a black hole in his hand? Last I remember, infinite gravity>>>>planet.
Oh, and the scan that I showed already >>>Glads. Narration itself said so. 🙂
Originally posted by carver9
Also on panel gladiator has shown cosmic energy leaving his body when he was fighting the surfer, so he is a cosmic entity and didnt I put up a scan where the narrator announce him as s god.
His fight with SS wasn't canon...but I'm sure you know that..right?
LOL... @ Glads being a god.
Originally posted by carver9
Nova also stated that gladiator isnt just the strongest being on a planet he said that gladiator is one of the strongest beings in the universe, this is also something that was said by professor x, gladiator has no limits. Lets also not forget the fact that gladiator was going to punch cannonball from the earth to the core of the sun, I dont think thats a feat that anyone can duplicate. Glads has broken the band of cyttorak by flexing his muscles, one shotted binary, a high herald and was stated on panel as being surfers equal. Glads has every right to be>> superman.
Even Byrne Superman has tossed a mountain from Earth right into the Sun. Where am I supposed to be impressed?
Originally posted by kgkg
From what i recall it was a mini blackhole and Gl helped him soon after.Still a good feat
He held it in his hand intially untill GL helped him further, but besies that once a blachole is created it contains the same properties regardless of size....so basically there really isn't such a thing as a smaller blackhole. On that note, blackhole's build hotter temperatures the smaller they are, mini blackholes approach the core of the sun in terms of heat if im not mistaken.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
He held it in his hand intially untill GL helped him further, but besies that once a blachole is created it contains the same properties regardless of size....so basically there really isn't such a thing as a smaller blackhole. On that note, blackhole's build hotter temperatures the smaller they are, mini blackholes approach the core of the sun in terms of heat if im not mistaken.
A few things: One, a miniature black hole has less mass than it's larger versions, meaning that it weighs less. They also only produce heat when they have an accretion disk (matter swirling around the event horizon), which that one didn't have. And the more matter they gather, the hotter the temperatures (so mini black holes would be cooler than massive ones). The gravity is the same in each version, however.
