Superman Lightray vs. Gladiator Sersi

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Personally, I consider Supes h2h speed vastly above anything Glads has done so I would argue glads shoudlnt be able to hit Supes unless clark decides to brawl it.

Now this is hilarious. Would you like for me to post some scans of gladiator hand speed. You cant compare the two because we honestly dont know how fast his hands is going but we do have on panel proof that glads can blitz at a speed that we have yet to see in a superman comic yet. Superman has some amazing space flight speed but you have no kind of proof suggesting that superman can even blitz past the speed of sound. If you do, I'll be waiting.

Originally posted by carver9
Now this is hilarious. Would you like for me to post some scans of gladiator hand speed. You cant compare the two because we honestly dont know how fast his hands is going but we do have on panel proof that glads can blitz at a speed that we have yet to see in a superman comic yet. Superman has some amazing space flight speed but you have no kind of proof suggesting that superman can even blitz past the speed of sound. If you do, I'll be waiting.

Originally posted by Avlon
Supes has performed tons of complex actions at ridiculous speeds as an average thing. From flying, to running, rebuilding cities in seconds, changing outfits, sealing space ruptures, etc. However, here's what you asked for:

Not only is he fighting faster than sound, (creating sonic booms as a result) he's also fighting in H2H martial arts. 🙂

Now since you put that up ( I love that comic and battle and I honestly knew that you was going to put that up thats why I said past the speed of sound) show me superman blitzing at the speed of light, something gladiator has done twice.

Lightray makes a sun for superman,gladiator isn't beating a superman directly under a sun the end.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Superman took wonder Woman to the surface of the son in a few seconds. that is more than 80 times the speed of light.

Who said anything about 80 times light, gladiator flew 100 times the speed of light and where in there fight did it say that it took seconds to fly from the sun and back to earth. I know that max lord said but think about this, max lord seen the entire fight and if the computer slowed the fight down for him then he wouldnt have got the chance to see it all because superman and wonder woman would have been there before he even got the chance to see the entire video. So can you please explain to me how max lord who has human reaction speed and reflexes can see a fight with beings that is/was going the speed of light.

Originally posted by carver9
Who said anything about 80 times light, gladiator flew 100 times the speed of light and where in there fight did it say that it took seconds to fly from the sun and back to earth. I know that max lord said but think about this, max lord seen the entire fight and if the computer slowed the fight down for him then he wouldnt have got the chance to see it all because superman and wonder woman would have been there before he even got the chance to see the entire video. So can you please explain to me how max lord who has human reaction speed and reflexes can see a fight with beings that is/was going the speed of light.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Lightray makes a sun for superman,gladiator isn't beating a superman directly under a sun the end.

Well gladiator can amp his already unknown strength and again he did move planets under his own strength and crushed planets and lets not forget that superman needed help to move the moon and he also needed help to move earth. So answer this for me, since superman moved only 1/3 of the earth and was still struggling, with his sun amp how much of the earth do you think that he can move by himself, or do you think that he would need help. What level of strength does the sun amp increase him to, planet moving level and if thats a yes then the 1st thing that you would have to do is provide proof and then if that is a yes, gladiator base strength is already at that level without his confidence amp.

So, what's stopping Sersi from turning Lightray's sun red?

Originally posted by carver9
Well gladiator can amp his already unknown strength and again he did move planets under his own strength and crushed planets and lets not forget that superman needed help to move the moon and he also needed help to move earth. So answer this for me, since superman moved only 1/3 of the earth and was still struggling, with his sun amp how much of the earth do you think that he can move by himself, or do you think that he would need help. What level of strength does the sun amp increase him to, planet moving level and if thats a yes then the 1st thing that you would have to do is provide proof and then if that is a yes, gladiator base strength is already at that level without his confidence amp.

Originally posted by carver9
Now since you put that up ( I love that comic and battle and I honestly knew that you was going to put that up thats why I said past the speed of sound)

If you claim that you knew it, why have you insisted that Superman can't? 🤨

Originally posted by carver9
show me superman blitzing at the speed of light, something gladiator has done twice.

Has Glads ever done this in a canon comic? Where are the examples?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Incorrect. They were holding the earth's orbit. Do you know how much power that takes? The entire Solar system holds the earth's orbit in place. Every heavenly body effects every other one.

Aw, come on. The sun holds Earth in orbit. Gravity has an effect on every heavenly body.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Hell no. Gladiator can keep up with Superman in hand to hand speed. Seriously. And even tho He's probably a lil bit under Superman in raw power, he's a far better fighter than Superman. And easily as durable.

So glads has actual superspeed h2h?

Originally posted by fangirl101
max lord was in superman's head. So he would be seeing everything from Superman's perspective. Duh. The fight was less than 2 minutes. And they did far more than go to and back from the sun. So He did blitz her at more than 80 times the speed of light.

Max lord was looking at the entire fight on screen. Read the comic again, he wasnt in superman head looking at the fight and 100 times the speed of light, hell 80 times the speed of light would make it to the sun and back in less time it would take for you to say light. Do you honestly know how fast that is.

Then since we are bringing up gladiator feats how about him being in the middle of a solar system destroying blast and not even feeling it or possessing any kind of damage. He flew out of it like it wasnt even there.

Originally posted by Enyalus
So, what's stopping Sersi from turning Lightray's sun red?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Incorrect. They were holding the earth's orbit. Do you know how much power that takes? The entire Solar system holds the earth's orbit in place. Every heavenly body effects every other one.

explain the moon.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Aw, come on. The sun holds Earth in orbit. Gravity has an effect on every heavenly body.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Sersi is a top matter manipulator. Not a top energy manipulator. Her best bet would be to use her telepathy to boost Glad's confidence so that he believes he is invincible.

Mmkay - what's stopping her from turning Lightray into a frog, before that? Ala Thor.

Originally posted by carver9
Max lord was looking at the entire fight on screen. Read the comic again, he wasnt in superman head looking at the fight and 100 times the speed of light, hell 80 times the speed of light would make it to the sun and back in less time it would take for you to say light. Do you honestly know how fast that is.

Then since we are bringing up gladiator feats how about him being in the middle of a solar system destroying blast and not even feeling it or possessing any kind of damage. He flew out of it like it wasnt even there.

Originally posted by carver9
Now this is hilarious. Would you like for me to post some scans of gladiator hand speed. You cant compare the two because we honestly dont know how fast his hands is going but we do have on panel proof that glads can blitz at a speed that we have yet to see in a superman comic yet. Superman has some amazing space flight speed but you have no kind of proof suggesting that superman can even blitz past the speed of sound. If you do, I'll be waiting.

Supes attacking fast enough to cause sonic booms, preasure point striking at superspeed and even parrying at superspeed...glads had done what?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Supes attacking fast enough to cause sonic booms, preasure point striking at superspeed and even parrying at superspeed...glads had done what?

Dude, look in the respect thread at the very least. He's shown with basically 20 different arms at one point, punching WonderMan into the Earth's core.