Superman Lightray vs. Gladiator Sersi

Originally posted by fangirl101
They weren't fighting at the speed of light on earth. that would have destroyed the atmosphere. Superman thought he was fighting doosmday. so he still would be careful of the regular people. The light speed part of the fight lasted in outer space going and coming back to earth.

From supermans own mouth he didnt care about the innocents, he only cared about killing doomsday.

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again, why didnt he make it there in a millisecond.

I'm getting too many reports from this thread. Please stay on topic or I'll have to close it. Thanks.

Please take questions of character rating or tiers to this thread.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t447826.html

I'm not trying to offend anyone I actually thought that all of us was having a civilized debate but some people get offended when you're commenting on a character that they like. If I am the one that is offending someone with my posts thats all they had to do was tell me what it was that I was saying wrong and I wouldnt mind fixing or getting off of the subject. Its just that simple.

Originally posted by carver9
From supermans own mouth he didnt care about the innocents, he only cared about killing doomsday.

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again, why didnt he make it there in a millisecond.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Who knows. But at that point, max had already given the time of the fight before then. Superman was also injured by Diana by then. With her injury and her using the birds to distract him, she did what she wanted to do, which was slow Superman down.

Im not trying to offend you (just saying that so that I wont get reported) but if a character can go 8 times the speed of light he still should be able to make it to max lord castle as easily as Im typing this sentence even being injured. Superman was getting up when wonder woman flew off.

I agree, superman is a very powerful character but there are a lot of things about gladiator that puts him above superman (even though I think that superman can get some wins over him). What started this argument is people asking why I put gladiator over superman and I provided my proof. Even though superman has some amazing feats gladiator small feats just present him as supermans superior. I know I can rant all year about supermans speed but thats never going to change the thought that is in some people mind. I ask for on panel proof they make statements.

Gladiator team 8/10

Originally posted by carver9
Im not trying to offend you (just saying that so that I wont get reported) but if a character can go 8 times the speed of light he still should be able to make it to max lord castle as easily as Im typing this sentence even being injured. Superman was getting up when wonder woman flew off.

I agree, superman is a very powerful character but there are a lot of things about gladiator that puts him above superman (even though I think that superman can get some wins over him). What started this argument is people asking why I put gladiator over superman and I provided my proof. Even though superman has some amazing feats gladiator small feats just present him as supermans superior. I know I can rant all year about supermans speed but thats never going to change the thought that is in some people mind. I ask for on panel proof they make statements.

Gladiator team 8/10

Speed of light from Earth to Sun. 8 Minutes.
let's say they get to the sun in 6 Seconds. that would be 80 times the speed of light.

The trip back Diana says she blinks out for an instant before she hits the earth's atmosphere.
This is the definition of an instant
http://mw1.m-w.com/dictionary/instant

So a second would be a good estimation. She flew from the sun's surface to the earth's surface in an instant.

Superman follows behind her.

One second from the sun to the earth is 480 times the speed of light. I think. My math could be off. But it's late.

Originally posted by carver9
So you base mid and high heralds off of who a character beat or versatility because if thats the case vision should be high herald since he stalemated surfer. Terrax should be high herald also since he beat morg on panel and stalemated him during the tyrant battle.

The next step above high herald is skyfather, so is thanos a skyfather level being since he basically walk through high heralds or is high herald level character based off of versatility and power. 😄

If we go by who people beat then hulk is a high herald easily.

This sounds like your own conclusion far more than what I stated...
It's way longer than my original statement. Herald is subjective.

Avlon how many Superman comics have you read, approx?

Superman/Lightray.

Originally posted by Mindset
Avlon how many Superman comics have you read, approx?

A lot.

Judging by when I put my comics into storage...way too many.

Cripes, this is getting tiresome. In Superman/Batman #13, Superman flew Darkseid to the Sun in seconds. Superman then flew Darkseid to the Source Wall in 3 panels. He even created a boom tube effect. The Source Wall is at the far edge of the DCU. In Countdown #48, Jimmy Olson "beeped" his little wrist alert gadget after Lightray fell to Earth. Superman flew from Vega, which is 25 light years away, and arrived while the crater and Lightray were still smoking from the impact.

Superman traveling much faster than light should be common knowledge.

Anyone who reads comics knows that for the sake of the plot, characters aren't going full on all the time. This is a reoccurring theme. I find it puzzling that people low ball characters and feats for their own ends.

Superman travels faster than light. That's not up for speculation or debate.

I don't think Superman can move faster than light. 🙂

Originally posted by Badabing
Cripes, this is getting tiresome. In Superman/Batman #13, Superman flew Darkseid to the Sun in seconds. Superman then flew Darkseid to the Source Wall in 3 panels. He even created a boom tube effect. The Source Wall is at the far edge of the DCU. In Countdown #48, Jimmy Olson "beeped" his little wrist alert gadget after Lightray fell to Earth. Superman flew from Vega, which is 25 light years away, and arrived while the crater and Lightray were still smoking from the impact.

Superman traveling much faster than light should be common knowledge.

Anyone who reads comics knows that for the sake of the plot, characters aren't going full on all the time. This is a reoccurring theme. I find it puzzling that people low ball characters and feats for their own ends.

Superman travels faster than light. That's not up for speculation or debate.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Now how in the heck did Superman hear that trouble signal from Jimmy that far? Can he actually hear that far? That is insane.

Sound doesn't travel in space...my guess is Kryptonian technology is magic. 😄

Originally posted by Mindset
I don't think Superman can move faster than light. 🙂

Light in DC universe moves slower than sound

Originally posted by Enyalus
Sound doesn't travel in space...my guess is Kryptonian technology is magic. 😄

I hate you guys! durfist

😛

Originally posted by Badabing
Cripes, this is getting tiresome. In Superman/Batman #13, Superman flew Darkseid to the Sun in seconds. Superman then flew Darkseid to the Source Wall in 3 panels. He even created a boom tube effect. The Source Wall is at the far edge of the DCU. In Countdown #48, Jimmy Olson "beeped" his little wrist alert gadget after Lightray fell to Earth. Superman flew from Vega, which is 25 light years away, and arrived while the crater and Lightray were still smoking from the impact.

Superman traveling much faster than light should be common knowledge.

Anyone who reads comics knows that for the sake of the plot, characters aren't going full on all the time. This is a reoccurring theme. I find it puzzling that people low ball characters and feats for their own ends.

Superman travels faster than light. That's not up for speculation or debate.

But he has claimed he can't go beyond Light speed few times.

perhaps he can keep accelerating way beyond light speed in space but even that theory doesn't explain much.

so it's writers and superman words vs US calculating his speed

Anywho, as for this thread - Sersi turns Lightray into a frog, then amps Gladiator's confidence through the roof, then decides to have frog legs for dinner after team two's win.