Originally posted by BicnarokWell, my atheism has eternal lack of suffering and peace for everyone....most forms of Christianity have agonizing, torturous hell.
The sentence on the Bus gived the impression that if God does exist its a bad thing, how odd.I wonder why they put this slogan on a bus its bound to wind some people up, not that it matters like. Quite funny really imo.
...yeah, would be a bad thing, imo.
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosOhhhhhhhhhhh, you mean "possible eternal happiness for everyone, but only if you follow the exactly correct rules which, usually would rule out about 99% of all humans that ever lived and will ever live, which instead will be in eternal pain and sufferring" ... err...I lost my train of thought...how does this relate to what I said?
Crazy little thing called heaven.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Ohhhhhhhhhhh, you mean "possible eternal happiness for everyone, but only if you follow the exactly correct rules which, usually would rule out about 99% of all humans that ever lived and will ever live, which instead will be in eternal pain and sufferring" ... err...I lost my train of thought...how does this relate to what I said?
That's your version. Many sects have more lenient requirements that let in most people or at least most Christians.
Ironically the sign presented pushes people towards God not away from it. If you're afraid of God you try to fulfill whatever the requirements are rather than becoming an atheist.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That's your version. Many sects have more lenient requirements that let in most people or at least most Christians.Ironically the sign presented pushes people towards God not away from it. If you're afraid of God you try to fulfill whatever the requirements are rather than becoming an atheist.
As I said, I don't know of any, I don't think that most do. The biggest certainly don't.
And, still, the sign is stupid.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Don't you think those that state something that is proven wrong should have worse odds?
Only if that is integral to the belief and only if the that belief actually states that. In any event that still fails to effect the odds significantly and certainly makes trusting in science look idiotic.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
They all have the same odds of being true (including atheism) and there's no way to improve those odds.
something being untestable does not mean it has equal probability to other untestable things.
For instance, God has an probability of X. God, who wears a 10 gallon hat, has a probability of X + the probability of God wearing a 10 gallon hat.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Only if that is integral to the belief and only if the that belief actually states that. In any event that still fails to effect the odds significantly and certainly makes trusting in science look idiotic.
based on statements of fact (though themselves untestable) made by any faith, one can make predictions based on what one might expect to see if that faith were true.
At best, one can say that an existent God has callous indifference for those who are said to be his "creations" and no regard for those who follow him in life. Any religion that does not propose that, has evidence provided against it.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Ohhhhhhhhhhh, you mean "possible eternal happiness for everyone, but only if you follow the exactly correct rules which, usually would rule out about 99% of all humans that ever lived and will ever live, which instead will be in eternal pain and sufferring" ... err...I lost my train of thought...how does this relate to what I said?
oooooor, Mormonism. Where everyone born on Earth will go to some sort of Heaven......besides the people like Judas (who receive a fullness of knowledge and turn away from it for deliberate, evil reasons.)