The Primal Monitor Vs The Living Tribunal

Started by Jynocidus23 pages

you know those megaverses that you just said are inside marvels omniverse(lol)?

they're nothing to LT

just like apparently the dc verse ain't really nothing to the PM

so even if they both somehow destroy existence, is that not destroying an "omniverse" (continuity) as you say? that'd be doing just what who...Mxy apparently did? i think LT can destroy that, he's more than capable. however, he does what is necessary. he corrects contradictions like Mxy being able to do that, remember when Strange disturbed the mystic balance or w/e and LT came?

given the benefit of the doubt, in this neutral setting once again...after the omniverse(s) (continuities) are destroyed, then what is PM gonna do to LT?

PM is gonna try and do what is necessary, to win, right? Tell me what happens here, how does PM instruct LT to stop...retconning him, when LT only serves TOAA?

i believe he said it would evolve into one, bit in dcs the Next, someone mentioned dc as an 'omniverse'. hopefuly this will be fully explained in morrisons multiversity.

Originally posted by Jynocidus
you know those megaverses that you just said are inside marvels omniverse(lol)?

they're nothing to LT

just like apparently the dc verse ain't really nothing to the PM

so even if they both somehow destroy existence, is that not destroying an "omniverse" (continuity) as you say? that'd be doing just what who...Mxy apparently did? i think LT can destroy that, he's more than capable. however, he does what is necessary. he corrects contradictions like Mxy being able to do that, remember when Strange disturbed the mystic balance or w/e and LT came?

given the benefit of the doubt, in this neutral setting once again...after the omniverse(s) (continuities) are destroyed, then what is PM gonna do to LT?

PM is gonna try and do what is necessary, to win, right? Tell me what happens here, how does PM instruct LT to stop...retconning him, when LT only serves TOAA?

You think the Lt can do things he's never done good for you. Yes i believe the PM could squash the LT like a zit

Based on implied power alone, this should be a cakewalk for PM. Although LT judges universes(sealing them off, judging them, etc) i don't think it's been implied he can outright destroy a multiverse.

On a side rant,

Then again all this talk of omnipotent fights are just so lame. Omnipotent =/= Omnipotent..varying degrees of infinity...blah..blah. Lame. Flying bricks that, mutants, street levellers, accidents that can be quantified with power levels are infinitely more interesting to debate than the garbage that is fluctuating tiers of anyone higher than universal powers. I both hate LT and the one above all and the prescence, etc. and that's why I'm responding to this.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged

Then again all this talk of omnipotent fights are just so lame. Omnipotent =/= Omnipotent..varying degrees of infinity...blah..blah. Lame.

Yes too much blah blah

Originally posted by iceman24567
Yes too much blah blah

Yes in fact it is

LT can do anything that anyone else who is not TOAA can do. Not only that, but much better and worse. He is a judge of realities, which is obviously what PM itself did by saying DC continuity was a big contradiction. So he is definitely in the same ball park as PM

yeah, its not like the 2 have any reason to fight or its not like the primal monitor would put the lt in an armbar...because he has no arms! 😱

Originally posted by Prep-Man
yeah, its not like the 2 have any reason to fight or its not like the primal monitor would put the lt in an armbar...because he has no arms! 😱

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Based on implied power alone, this should be a cakewalk for PM. Although LT judges universes(sealing them off, judging them, etc) i don't think it's been implied he can outright destroy a multiverse.

On a side rant,

Then again all this talk of omnipotent fights are just so lame. Omnipotent =/= Omnipotent..varying degrees of infinity...blah..blah. Lame. Flying bricks that, mutants, street levellers, accidents that can be quantified with power levels are infinitely more interesting to debate than the garbage that is fluctuating tiers of anyone higher than universal powers. I both hate LT and the one above all and the prescence, etc. and that's why I'm responding to this.

i was fine just occasionally posting until i could see the raw dc fanboy oozing out of many posters in certain "spite" threads, I had to speak up. people were going to write off certain battles like a landslide for one side and completely disregard the extent of a characters implied stance, feats, purpose, etc. you had people who confuse continuity/multiverse/omniverse kicking back all proud until little old me speaks the truth.

people throw around supreme and omnipotent, yet turn around and contradict themselves in different situations. these topics can be lame, but it's better than being completely disregarded due to blind fanboyism. you can use any other characters and debate for either side, but imo, and theoretically fact, nobody should be able to beat LT except for THE true omnipotent (whether its portrayed as a writer to the characters, or in a story DEPICTING something bigger than the writers and our actual physical universe)

Originally posted by iceman24567

Hmmm, interesting. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by NemeBro
I was under the impression that the Brothers incident was indeed canon, but I could be wrong.

Regardless, LT is top dog in a setting of multiple omniversal threats and warpers. He has sovereignty over the omniverse second to TOAA.

Juntai, this is the first I have heard of DC being a megaverse.

DC is an Omniverse too. Stated in a comic.

Anyway, Each company has it's own Omni/Mega/whateververse. They are infinite and they have their hierarchy. You can see their opinion aboput who matches who in the cosmic level in their crossovers. Spectre for example is a major player, like he was seen in the CotiE and would match LT. I wouldn't put LT higher then him and only few beings beyond Spectre or LT, TOAA, Presence, Mandrakk. It's not like LT wasn't defeated by protege or humbled in what ifs, which are canon to him according to some posters.

Damn Morrison and his stoned-ness...

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
DC is an Omniverse too. Stated in a comic.

Anyway, Each company has it's own Omni/Mega/whateververse. They are infinite and they have their hierarchy. You can see their opinion aboput who matches who in the cosmic level in their crossovers. Spectre for example is a major player, like he was seen in the CotiE and would match LT. I wouldn't put LT higher then him and only few beings beyond Spectre or LT, TOAA, Presence, Mandrakk. It's not like LT wasn't defeated by protege or humbled in what ifs, which are canon to him according to some posters.

Protegeg never defeated the Lt. Now far less has given the Spectre a run or negated him entirely. Read the Spectre series or dov. The Spectre isn't close to the Lt.

Originally posted by Jynocidus
i was fine just occasionally posting until i could see the raw dc fanboy oozing out of many posters in certain "spite" threads, I had to speak up. people were going to write off certain battles like a landslide for one side and completely disregard the extent of a characters implied stance, feats, purpose, etc. you had people who confuse continuity/multiverse/omniverse kicking back all proud until little old me speaks the truth.

people throw around supreme and omnipotent, yet turn around and contradict themselves in different situations. these topics can be lame, but it's better than being completely disregarded due to blind fanboyism. you can use any other characters and debate for either side, but imo, and theoretically fact, nobody should be able to beat LT except for THE true omnipotent (whether its portrayed as a writer to the characters, or in a story DEPICTING something bigger than the writers and our actual physical universe)

LOL still shouting fanboy you hypocrite. PM stomps

Originally posted by iceman24567
LOL still shouting fanboy you hypocrite. PM stomps

whatever. i'm only a hypocrite to the misinformed until you accept the truth that LT stomps

Originally posted by Jynocidus
whatever. i'm only a hypocrite to the misinformed until you accept the truth that LT stomps
You are a hypocrite to everybody and a true marvel zombie. PM stomps

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
DC is an Omniverse too. Stated in a comic.
Where.

Originally posted by iceman24567
You are a hypocrite to everybody and a true marvel zombie. PM stomps

at least I know what a supreme being is enough to not be contradicted in any of my posts. LT stomps

Originally posted by Jynocidus
at least I know what a supreme being is enough to not be contradicted in any of my posts. LT stomps
Yet you have contradicted yourself many times all the while not knowing anything about these characters that are pitted against the LT but still blabbing how LT stomps. PM wins without a doubt