Thor/Juggernaut vs Superman/Konvikt

You must be a bad teacher because I didn't feel schooled at all. I think you're trying to apply too much real world physics to this situation.

You do know that sonic sounds is nowhere stated in his bio as a weakness right? The dude has taken sonic sounds from Banshee. Cain is no regular human and Cyttorak and his blessing is greater than Supes entire arsenal. Even if he did BFR him by bringing him out of sync with reality as you foolishy said what is stopping Cyttorak from bringing him right back to the fight to finish the job?

Originally posted by Mindset
Phasing out of sync with reality, as you put it, is being removed from the battlefield.

bfr

Originally posted by fangirl101
No. Juggy isn't BFR'd if he's phased. He just can't touch shit. And Superman would kill given the thread starter made it impossible to win any other way.

So supes has a win by any means policy now? Then how come when he is losing a battle and he states that he holds back his power, he doesn't just say **** it and kill the person he is fighting? When has Supes said "Oh no I can't beat him, so I have to kill him."?

Originally posted by fangirl101
No it's not. It's just phased. He's there but a ghost. Can't touch anything.

Has he ever done that? Again what is stopping Cyttorak from bringing him right back to their reality? Why in the hell would Superman kill him?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
So supes has a win by any means policy now? Then how come when he is losing a battle and he states that he holds back his power, he doesn't just say **** it and kill the person he is fighting? When has Supes said "Oh no I can't beat him, so I have to kill him."?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Has he ever done that? Again what is stopping Cyttorak from bringing him right back to their reality? Why in the hell would Superman kill him?

He doesn't know Juggernaut's history and phasing him and Thor will only kill Thor which is another thing he doesn't do. Supes does not kill heroes. These people aren't bloodlusted so Thor and Supes will not try to kill them.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
He doesn't know Juggernaut's history and phasing him and Thor will only kill Thor which is another thing he doesn't do. Supes does not kill heroes. These people aren't bloodlusted so Thor and Supes will not try to kill them.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Cytorrak isn't in the fight. That's called outside help.

Cyttorak doesn't have to be there even though he is through Cain. Do you really think that he is going to let Cain go like that? Cain is his best Avatar and he isn't going to just let him go like that.

The battle is in reality, if Supes leaves reality with Cain then they are both removed from the battlefield.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Who says it will kIll thor? Thor is God. If anything, Thor would use his hammer to suck the enchantment out of Juggy to free himself. And yes he does know the basics about juggy. As I stated earlier. Given the nature of the limitations given to one side to favor the other side, so that posters such as your self, who are obviously in favor of one side winning at all cost, it is the only way superman and konvikt can get the win. By killing or severly injuring.Thor and Juggy with a plot device move.

Because Norse Gods can be killed. Cain almost killed him once as a matter of fact.

History is not basic knowledge. Basic knowledge would be Cain is a human powered by a mystical entity and he is unstoppable and invulnerable. Weakness, mental attacks and magic of sufficient strength.

Show me where Superman has said that the only way for me to win is to kill you. I thought he would rather take defeat than to kill someone. There is no plot device in this battle.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No it's not. It's just phased. He's there but a ghost. Can't touch anything.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Super whistle for the win. Or vibrations thru Juggy's brain. Or he phases juggy out of sinc with reality and Juggy can never hit anything ever again.

What makes you think any of this is going to work on the Juggernaut?

Originally posted by Mindset
that is a bfr, he is on another plane of existence

Exactly! What FG is saying is that he is there but he is not there, same place just different type of place.

Originally posted by carver9
Fan girl stop using this sound crap to try and take juggernaut out of the fight. Again the robot can create weapons to take out any beings, superman cant repeat the same process that nimrod did because its different, theres not telling what type of energy that he was hitting juggernaut with since he is from the far future.

Superman dont have anything that can take out juggernaut or even slow him down. Superman would get crushed so deal with it and stop bring up superman putting thor inside one of the most durable characters in comics. 😆

The robot can create weapons to take out any mutants, not superhumans. Nor was it ever able to take out all mutants.

Sonic energy is sonic energy, no matter where you're from 😆

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
The robot can create weapons to take out any mutants, not superhumans. Nor was it ever able to take out all mutants.

Sonic energy is sonic energy, no matter where you're from 😆

Still no where is it stated that Cain is weak against sonic energy. Nor is he weak against fire as you claimed.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Get a Clue. In blood and thunder he was in his WM mode. And His freinds didn't want to hurt him. Superman could pwn Durok with minimal effort with some T-Vo. And who the hell cares about a battle zone? I don't.

Originally posted by Allankles
They all have impressive victories under their belts.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No. Juggy isn't BFR'd if he's phased. He just can't touch shit. And Superman would kill given the thread starter made it impossible to win any other way.

Secondly even if it did work Thor could easily unphase him.

Everything else you mentioned wouldn't work, Flat Out.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
He doesn't know Juggernaut's history and phasing him and Thor will only kill Thor which is another thing he doesn't do. Supes does not kill heroes. These people aren't bloodlusted so Thor and Supes will not try to kill them.

Originally posted by Allankles
He ain't durable enough to take full HV directly. He couldn't take Supes regular HV it hurt and slowed him down, full HV will do worse if he doesn't get his hammer in the way.

Not to mention that Supes can use it surgically and not just shoot for "brute" power. He can burn Thor's brain through his retina or skull via applied microscopic beams of his HV. His HV is surgical.

Also Thor won't be hitting supes with the god blast, maybe the anti force blast but it's not like supes can't immobilize him briefly but instantly with his FB or burn him with precise bursts of HV. It would be a good match and by removing one of Supes abilities for this fight team 1 can take the majority. With no restrictions Team 2 takes this.

Why are u bringing in that crossover in which iron man one shots wonder woman and wonderman easily shatters a Gl construct? Thor has enough durability feats to prove that he can certainly take supes HV. His blasts will also be much more lethal to superman. Superman wont have the time to surgically use his Hv when he is being barraged by lightning thousands of lightning bolts and energy attacks from all directions.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Thor has godblasted people who basically stood there. Try and use something else. the Godblast fails on all but the slowest and biggest of beings who aren't paying attention.

What? Why would the godblast fail? Supermans speed is even taken away in this fight meaning so i dont even know what ur talking about. Thor will certainly be hitting supes with some od his blasts and he should hope its not the godblast that thor decides to use if not supes is a gonner.