Thor/Juggernaut vs Superman/Konvikt

Started by Mindset20 pages

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Umm..I dont think FTW.
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Originally posted by The Great Galen
Umm..I dont think Thor is as fast or physically strong as supes. I dont believe Thors h2h abilites compare or even his striking power, blitz FTW.

And umm. I KNOW that thor outnumbers supes power wise by a fairly large margin. I KNOW that thors striking power with mjolnir is GREATER than supes'. I KNOW that thor can make it difficult for supes to blitz him using his lightnning and continuous energy attacks etc due to the fact that supes does not have any quantified blitz above this level of speed. I also know that BFR is also an option for thor. I KNOW that thor has some huge attacks capable of putting supes down.

And you know what i wont even say that because of this thor wins or anything just that it will be a very even fight.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
And umm. I KNOW that thor outnumbers supes power wise by a fairly large margin. I KNOW that thors striking power with mjolnir is GREATER than supes'. I KNOW that thor can make it difficult for supes to blitz him using his lightnning and continuous energy attacks etc due to the fact that supes does not have any quantified blitz above this level of speed. I also know that BFR is also an option for thor. I KNOW that thor has some huge attacks capable of putting supes down.

And you know what i wont even say that because of this thor wins or anything just that it will be a very even fight.

FANBOY!

Originally posted by ultimatethor
And umm. I KNOW that thor outnumbers supes power wise by a fairly large margin. I KNOW that thors striking power with mjolnir is GREATER than supes'. I KNOW that thor can make it difficult for supes to blitz him using his lightnning and continuous energy attacks etc due to the fact that supes does not have any quantified blitz above this level of speed. I also know that BFR is also an option for thor. I KNOW that thor has some huge attacks capable of putting supes down.

And you know what i wont even say that because of this thor wins or anything just that it will be a very even fight.

Lighting lol, supes can bullrush faster then a nanosecond and has supersonic h2h speed. Whatever "beams"of energy Thor throws at supes he can easily vibrate past..or simple counter with his HV. Unlike Supes, whats Thor's track recored agaisnt speeding projectiles...its a handid victory for Supes.

Originally posted by Mindset
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Originally posted by The Great Galen
Lighting lol, supes can bullrush faster then a nanosecond and has supersonic h2h speed. Whatever "beams"of energy Thor throws at supes he can easily vibrate past..or simple counter with his HV. Unlike Supes, whats Thor's track recored agaisnt speeding projectiles...its a handid victory for Supes.

Well if thats how we want to go. Thor can also bullrush at nanasecond speed( all it needs is essentially flight speed). Supes supersonic h2h speed will avail him nought when there are thousands of lightning bolts falling in evry direction. Whatever "beams of energy supes shoots at thor he can easily absorb and send right back to supes. Supes is certainly going to be doing a lot of vibrating considering the thousands of lightning bolts thor is going to be raining down. Well thors track record against speeding energy blasts is that he just absorbs them which is what he will be doing to supes HV. Not a handid victory for supes in any way

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Well if thats how we want to go. Thor can also bullrush at nanasecond speed( all it needs is essentially flight speed). Supes supersonic h2h speed will avail him nought when there are thousands of lightning bolts falling in evry direction. Whatever "beams of energy supes shoots at thor he can easily absorb and send right back to supes. Supes is certainly going to be doing a lot of vibrating considering the thousands of lightning bolts thor is going to be raining down. Well thors track record against speeding energy blasts is that he just absorbs them which is what he will be doing to supes HV. Not a handid victory for supes in any way

So Thor can absorb a HV blast that has greater potency then supernova. On that note, Supes has superior flight speed and can just fly to orbit and hail a storm of HV blast if he wanted....since he is moe faster then Thor afterall. Let's not forget that when Supes CAN use his flight speed during combat..which means Thor is ****ed either way.

Originally posted by quanchi112

He is weak against magic. If he isnt feel free to post proof.

When has Supes shown a specific weakness to magic in recent years? Against Avalon he had no problem fighting against and countering his magical attempts, and his understanding of magic has grown with tutelage from Zatanna.

So as someone already mentioned Superman's purported weakness to magic is a misnomer, nowhere does it suggest he has a specific weakness to magic, that was something just carried over by word of mouth from his pre crisis days.

PC Supes had a weakness to it to provide some balance because he was too powerful Post C Supes doesn't have the same problem.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Supes won due to Thor's initial shock. Thats my opinion and one I can support by looking at the end of the battle.

What kind of ridiculous excuse is that? I catch your blow before it lands and I KO you, what the hell would your shock matter? It's not Superman's problem that Thor got shocked and it's not Superman's problem that his punch KO'd Thor, considering the kind of speed and strength Supes possesses it's quite clear that he can generate awesome power punches capable of KO'ing his peers.

Think of heavy weight boxers, think of the best punchers like Tyson, Louis,, Lennox et al. they could all generate great speed with their punches furthermore punches that you don't see coming hurt the most.

Thor can fly at 3x light speed with Mjolnir, can't he? There. That's a quantifiable rush speed right there.

Originally posted by Allankles
When has Supes shown a specific weakness to magic in recent years? Against Avalon he had no problem fighting against and countering his magical attempts, and his understanding of magic has grown with tutelage from Zatanna.

So as someone already mentioned Superman's purported weakness to magic is a misnomer, nowhere does it suggest he has a specific weakness to magic, that was something just carried over by word of mouth from his pre crisis days.

PC Supes had a weakness to it to provide some balance because he was too powerful Post C Supes doesn't have the same problem.

What kind of ridiculous excuse is that? I catch your blow before it lands and I KO you, what the hell would your shock matter? It's not Superman's problem that Thor got shocked and it's not Superman's problem that his punch KO'd Thor, considering the kind of speed and strength Supes possesses it's quite clear that he can generate awesome power punches capable of KO'ing his peers.

Think of heavy weight boxers, think of the best punchers like Tyson, Louis,, Lennox etc they could all generate great speed with their punches furthermore punches that you don't see coming hurt the most.

In addition to this, Supes can stirke at supersonic speeds with striking power that can destroy dwarf planets while holding back. Supes has rocked chcracters whom are considerably higher then him with his punches...it doesnt surpirse me that Thor would be KO'ed.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Thor can fly at 3x light speed with Mjolnir, can't he? There. That's a quantifiable rush speed right there.

Supes can make a 20+ lightyear trip in only a matter of minutes that would put him at millions of times the speed of light heh.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Thor can fly at 3x light speed with Mjolnir, can't he? There. That's a quantifiable rush speed right there.

Superman can fly much much faster. And Thor has to whirl the hammer first to build up it's momentum. He'd be rushed by the time he throws it.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
In addition to this, Supes can stirke at supersonic speeds with striking power that can destroy dwarf planets while holding back. Supes has rocked chcracters whom are considerably higher then him with his punches...it doesnt surpirse me that Thor would be KO'ed.

Why would it surprise anyone that Thor was KO'd? If Supes hadn't blocked Thor's hammer strike it is he who would have been KO'd but he provided a counterstrike and that's all she wrote.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Superman can fly much much faster. And Thor has to whirl the hammer first to build up it's momentum. He'd be rushed by the time he throws it.

He's hit Supes in the face with Mjolnir before. Don't tell me Supes is going to vibrate or dodge it when he hasn't in the past.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
So Thor can absorb a HV blast that has greater potency then supernova. On that note, Supes has superior flight speed and can just fly to orbit and hail a storm of HV blast if he wanted....since he is moe faster then Thor afterall. Let's not forget that when Supes CAN use his flight speed during combat..which means Thor is ****ed either way.

Wait so thats ur new strategy?ROFL Do u even know who thor is? Supes raining down an HV storm on him is supposed to overload his hammer? Supes Hv is hotter than a supernova and so? Thor has absorbed blasts far potent than supes HV from the likes of thanos and surfer and classic Dr strange. Supes HV being hotter than a supernova does not mean it contains as much energy as a supernova FYI. Firelords blasts are hoter than a supernova and even surfer who cannot contain as much energy as mjolnir has absorbed it. U really must be joking.

Originally posted by Allankles
When has Supes shown a specific weakness to magic in recent years?
Didn't see the Atlas fight?

Originally posted by Enyalus
He's hit Supes in the face with Mjolnir before. Don't tell me Supes is going to vibrate or dodge it when he hasn't in the past.

Supes can dodge it, just because something hits you doesn't mean you can't dodge it. It can hit Superman under certain circumstances like if he doesn't expect it, certainly it's a viable tactic to use but to suggest Supes can't dodge it? Regardles of how far it flies Supes need only move a few inches in any direction to avoid the projectile.

Originally posted by batdude123
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You're saying that Juggernaut is slow [b]because he chooses to be slow, but Superman being stronger than Juggernaut is speculative?

barker [/B]

Yes.

Originally posted by Enyalus
He's hit Supes in the face with Mjolnir before. Don't tell me Supes is going to vibrate or dodge it when he hasn't in the past.

Ecept he has vibrated past strikes before and I dont think Thor can attack at supes h2h speed.

Originally posted by Mindset
Didn't see the Atlas fight?

The Atlas fight was people using magic to specifically disrupt Supes link with the yellow sun, it wasn't anything to do with having a specific weakness to magic.