Originally posted by ultimatethor
Lol at the nonsense.
What so nonsensical about that you do know that Supes can vibrate or spin his body fast enough to vibrate through the ground, right? If he grabs hold of Juggs and does that what could Juggs do?
The speed at which he vibrates or rotates his body are well beyond the speeds Jugs functions at, he won't be able to react and once he's deep enough in the BF how long does it take him to get back out? He can't fly, he has no speed, it would take him a long time, long enough to put him out of the fight effectively.
Originally posted by Allankles
What so nonsensical about that you do know that Supes can vibrate or spin his body fast enough to vibrate through the ground, right? If he grabs hold of Juggs and does that what could Juggs do?The speed at which he vibrates or rotates his body are well beyond the speeds Jugs functions at, he won't be able to react and once he's deep enough in the BF how long does it take him to get back out? He can't fly, he has no speed, it would take him a long time, long enough to put him out of the fight effectively.
Uhhh, before u go on a tirade i was laughing at the idea of supes vibrating jugs into thor. That is just not gonna happen.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Uhhh, before u go on a tirade i was laughing at the idea of supes vibrating jugs into thor. That is just not gonna happen.
I think you are underestimating forum Supes. Forget vibrating them together, Supes flies back in time, impregnates Cain's mom thus becoming Cain's dad. Flies back to the present and scares off Juggs with a leather belt.
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Originally posted by Allankles
Maybe you do have a point, getting stuck into the BF may not exactly be BFR.
Even if he gets stuck in the groundthen what is stopping Cain from just breaking out?
Originally posted by fangirl101
Superman Vibrates Thor into Juggy. Game Over.
For that to happen without much resistance, Supes would have to blitz them and it has been said no blitzing.
Originally posted by Allankles
Supes isn't sitting around meditating when he is using TVo he could make illusions and such to run interference, but I said it's the most extreme scenario he'd be better served just trying to vibrate Juggs into the BF as Thor and Konvikt battle it out and Konvikt has shown enough durability that I'd expect him to keep Thor occupied.And even if you switch the matches Supes can get his energetic attacks off faster than Thor can at close quarters all he has to do is will his HV beams and they shoot out in less than a moment or his super breath or freezebreath to run effective tactical distractions.
again please what is stopping Cain from breaking out of the ground?
Originally posted by Allankles
What so nonsensical about that you do know that Supes can vibrate or spin his body fast enough to vibrate through the ground, right? If he grabs hold of Juggs and does that what could Juggs do?The speed at which he vibrates or rotates his body are well beyond the speeds Jugs functions at, he won't be able to react and once he's deep enough in the BF how long does it take him to get back out? He can't fly, he has no speed, it would take him a long time, long enough to put him out of the fight effectively.
Wouldn't he need to blitz them for that to work? How can he grab hold of Cain if his FF is up? Wouldn't that Kill Thor? I thought Superman doesn't kill especially when it comes to heroes.
Originally posted by Allankles
Supes isn't sitting around meditating when he is using TVo he could make illusions and such to run interference, but I said it's the most extreme scenario he'd be better served just trying to vibrate Juggs into the BF as Thor and Konvikt battle it out and Konvikt has shown enough durability that I'd expect him to keep Thor occupied.And even if you switch the matches Supes can get his energetic attacks off faster than Thor can at close quarters all he has to do is will his HV beams and they shoot out in less than a moment or his super breath or freezebreath to run effective tactical distractions.
So you honestly dont think that thor could take superman heat vision, a guy that has fought in the sun before. We also have on panel proof that thor could easily block supermans heat vision with his hammer since he has stopped more powerful blast in the past and ice breath aint doing jack to thor, jack. Not to thor or juggernaut.
Originally posted by carver9
So you dont think that the same attack that nimrod hit juggernaut with wont work on anyone in this battle?It would kill superman, lets put it like that.
Completely irrelevant, and you missed the point.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Superman is automatically going to know exactly how to do this? The proper frequency necessary to disrupt the messages from Cains brain getting to his body?No.
Why not? The guy knows the frequency on which the human brain operates. He's even used vibrational frequencies to reverse the affects of telepathy.
I'd think he more than anyone should be able to accomplish that feat.
Originally posted by Allankles
The OP said no BFR not no blitzing.EDIT: He said no blitzing typical Carver thread, basically disable one character so that he doesn't even have his trademark abilities. In that case team 1 would probably take this 6/10 although Supes HV being faster than Thor's thunder strikes could disable Thor if he blasted Thor's hands at close quarters, fight Thor without his Hammer.
Konvikt is quicker than Juggernaut and pretty durable to blunt force trauma so it would be a long battle as Supes takes Thor, I think it would be a fair good fight as long as Supes uses his freeze breath and HV to make up for the no blitzing.
Freeze breath to immobilize these guys briefly and then HV to get in close and try to take the Hammer out of the equation.
Most extreme scenario for a team 2 win would have to involve Supes using TVo to make illusions and such and then eventually entrap one of these guys minds (especially) Jugs.
As far as Juggs not being able to be hurt it's difficult to say. What's Juggs best show of durability? I know more than likely you have to mystism/magic or use telepathy to hurt him, but a mystical augmentation can still be trumpt with a force considerable enough to overcome it.
And for those saying Supes could vibrate Jugs to the core of a planet that still counts as a BFR.
Using a close range HV on Thor's hand would only increase the likely hood Thor will use Mjolnir to absorb the energy and return it on Superman at greater magnitude, and different frequency.
And freezing them won't work fist Thor has command over such cold and could very litterally turn the effects right back on Superman. Second even if the got forzen both Cain , and Thor would be able to get free without too much trouble.
Also Thor doesn't need Mjolnir or even to be free to strike Superman with lightning. And I very highly doubt Superman's HV is "faster".
Cain has been frozen numerous times and escaped with a flex of his muscles.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
On the fly? That ridiculous.When have you ever seen Superman walk into any battle using methods like that at the outset?
Superman is a lot more creative than people here give him credit for.