Originally posted by jimBOFH😮 Oops I can't count. But still wouldn't be four. And the fact the website says History of Trunks is canon sorta makes it unreliable. Because History of Trunks has it's own manga, and Trunks is already SSJ but in the movie he doesn't go SSJ until Gohan dies.
6 i think- aren't there only 3 Broly movies? (5 if you say History of Trunks isn't canon)
Can you show a scan?
this would be enough
Goku was dodging none planet destroying blasts way before Cell even attempted to blow up the planet.
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I just read a little more of this thread
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Did Vegeta in canon ever state he was going to destroy the planet,
Yea, when Goku was coming and they felt his power level Vegeta decided they would just kill gohan and crew and blow the planet instead.
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and when fighting Goku he got pissed and decided to just blow the planet along with Goku.
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Originally posted by TheBadguySeeing as how all the Broli movies are canon to each other..Yes it would. If anything the 3rd movie would prove the canon part more than the other two. Since 18 is trying to get Satan to give her the money he owed her from the tournament.
Just because the first Broly movie would be canon doesn't mean they all had to be, as far as I know Toriyama only worked on the 1st, and the rest make even less sense than that one. But WTF is going on in this thread? I was expecting Ichigo and saw f'ing Jaspers and Galactus.
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
this would be enough😐
Yea..use the cartoon. That's not canon at all for Superman.
And Gokou was dodging plenty of non-planet destroying attacks during his fight with Cell..And then all the stuff he wasn't hit with in the Freeza fight that didn't destroy anything but make huge craters.
Originally posted by Kento
Seeing as how all the Broli movies are canon to each other..Yes it would. If anything the 3rd movie would prove the canon part more than the other two. Since 18 is trying to get Satan to give her the money he owed her from the tournament.
I don't think so since Toriyama only bothered with the first, but if thats what you think. The other movies make an even bigger mess, with things like Goten and Videl fighting with him.
Originally posted by TheBadguyVidel gets beaten in one move..And he's only ssj. Which was shown to be weaker than base Gokou in the first movie. And when is Akira ever said to have anything to do with any of the movies anyway?
I don't think so since he Toriyama only bothered with the first, but if thats what you think. The other movies make an even bigger mess, with things like Goten and Videl fighting with him.
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
this would be enough😐
the cartoon is not the comic.
Originally posted by Kento
Makes him canon how? He had some input about GT things but it's not canon. Also the Daizenshu says some weird stuff that hasn't even show remotely true.
I didn't bother arguing about him being canon or not. I said just because one movie could be wouldn't have to me the other ones with him are. Creating the character and writing the story is a lot more involvement than occasionally being asked details about haircuts and such like in GT. and yea it says stupid stuff but stupid stuff about details within the series never about the real life process of making the series.
Originally posted by jimBOFHThe original source. Which would be the manga. All the filler episodes, and movies (though people say Broli is the exception though I'm still not entirely believing that cause Bardock is the only one I've ever seen or heard of Akira having a hand in), and GT were done by Toei. Which makes them non-canon. The movies also are more of side-stories anyway. They have no way to fit into the timeline at all. Which automatically makes them non-canon because they can't fit into the manga. With the exception of Bojack, which could fit but is still considered non-canon because Akira didn't do it.
Who exactly defines canon? I mean, is it anything that Toriyama writes/approves? If not, why not?
dictionary results for: Canon
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can⋅on
1   /ˈkænən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kan-uhn] Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. an ecclesiastical rule or law enacted by a council or other competent authority and, in the Roman Catholic Church, approved by the pope.
2. the body of ecclesiastical law.
3. the body of rules, principles, or standards accepted as axiomatic and universally binding in a field of study or art: the neoclassical canon.
4. a fundamental principle or general rule: the canons of good behavior.
5. a standard; criterion: the canons of taste.
6. the books of the Bible recognized by any Christian church as genuine and inspired.
7. any officially recognized set of sacred books.
8. any comprehensive list of books within a field.
9. the works of an author that have been accepted as authentic: There are 37 plays in the Shakespeare canon. Compare apocrypha (def. 3).
10. a catalog or list, as of the saints acknowledged by the Church.
11. Liturgy. the part of the Mass between the Sanctus and the Communion.
12. Eastern Church. a liturgical sequence sung at matins, usually consisting of nine odes arranged in a fixed pattern.
13. Music. consistent, note-for-note imitation of one melodic line by another, in which the second line starts after the first.
14. Printing. a 48-point type.
Origin:
bef. 900; ME, OE < L < Gk kann measuring rod, rule, akin to kánna cane
See: 9.
besides the specials both the 1st broly movie and the bojack movie can fit.
Originally posted by Kento
I swear Akira has been asked about Broli before in Shonen Jump and said he didn't know who that was.
I wouldn't be surprised to hear that at all. I wouldn't be surprised to hear him pull another Lunch and say that about anyone not named Goku. The guy is a douche.
Originally posted by Ryuugi
dictionary results for: Canon
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can⋅on
1   /ˈkænən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kan-uhn] Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. an ecclesiastical rule or law enacted by a council or other competent authority and, in the Roman Catholic Church, approved by the pope.
2. the body of ecclesiastical law.
3. the body of rules, principles, or standards accepted as axiomatic and universally binding in a field of study or art: the neoclassical canon.
4. a fundamental principle or general rule: the canons of good behavior.
5. a standard; criterion: the canons of taste.
6. the books of the Bible recognized by any Christian church as genuine and inspired.
7. any officially recognized set of sacred books.
8. any comprehensive list of books within a field.
9. the works of an author that have been accepted as authentic: There are 37 plays in the Shakespeare canon. Compare apocrypha (def. 3).
10. a catalog or list, as of the saints acknowledged by the Church.
11. Liturgy. the part of the Mass between the Sanctus and the Communion.
12. Eastern Church. a liturgical sequence sung at matins, usually consisting of nine odes arranged in a fixed pattern.
13. Music. consistent, note-for-note imitation of one melodic line by another, in which the second line starts after the first.
14. Printing. a 48-point type.
Origin:
bef. 900; ME, OE < L < Gk kann measuring rod, rule, akin to kánna caneSee: 9.
That's what I thought, only with this it seems to be more complicated, due to Toriyama's varying levels of involvement with different works.
