Superman vs Blackbolt

Originally posted by Enyalus
Okay...So, PC Superboy's feat of pulling planets is no big deal. And the holding the planet in place feat isn't, either, because it's taking two other people to do it besides Superman, so is also invalidated. What else ya got?

Superboy's feat is a big deal becuz he towed the planets. Slamming into them and moving them is speed and durability. If you run fast enough and slam into a park car. You can move it some. If you try and tow it, you will have no success. Becuz you are staring out with NO speed.

As for the shared feat, I could go into the math of it and the positions and all that jazz but even if superman did 99% of the work( which would be Bullshit), 1 percent of the systems gravity well measures into 100,000,000 to the tenth power in joules. At least that is what I can come up with. I'm not a scientist. And that is just 1 percent.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Superboy's feat is a big deal becuz he towed the planets. Slamming into them and moving them is speed and durability. If you run fast enough and slam into a park car. You can move it some. If you try and tow it, you will have no success. Becuz you are staring out with NO speed.

What makes you think Gladiator didn't move the planet from a stationary position? Narration panels state he's got the strength to collapse a star with his bare hands. Why not?

...Were we talking about Gladiator before or not? I forget. And it's 2 AM. And I'm reading Cable & Deadpool and thus distracted.

Blah. 😐

Originally posted by Enyalus
What makes you think Gladiator didn't move the planet from a stationary position? Narration panels state he's got the strength to collapse a star with his bare hands. Why not?

...Were we talking about Gladiator before or not? I forget. And it's 2 AM. And I'm reading Cable & Deadpool and thus distracted.

Blah. 😐

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/supermanvsdeath.jpg
Another example of why Supes can bullrush BB and tear through him, oh and can BB dodge a omnidirection blast http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/omnidirectionalhv.jpg

On that note, Supes can use a x-ray vision blast to damage the molecular structures or opponents...with surgical precision http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=09ae1.jpg

Originally posted by fangirl101
Narration also says that no Force in the universe can stand up to Superman's punches. Also says that he is one of the mightiest beings in ALL the universes.

That's cool. Narration said that Gladiator is 'a god,' and 'a warrior god.' Is it true?

What was said regarding Supes there was clear hyperbole.

Originally posted by Enyalus
That's cool. Narration said that Gladiator is 'a god,' and 'a warrior god.' Is it true?

What was said regarding Supes there was clear hyperbole.

Caver was bring up constant narration points..so if he wants to play that game then fine. Supes was stated as being able to move the planet, he was even stated by Batman as being about to crack earth in half..oh and he has rocked a solar system.

Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator was never pounded by cannonball, cannonball absorbed gladiator punch that was going to send him to the sun and punched gladiator back with that same strength and gladiator got back up. You do know that cannonball can absorb kinetic energy and use it back on you right. 😕

Again gladiator has the on panel proof that makes him>>>superman since he can move planets on his own, flight speed was quoted at 100 times the speed of light and the last thing that was ever quoted for superman was under the speed of light and this was recently in jla (actually last month). He can swim through stars (and lets not forget, gladiator dont get his powers from stars so that is a durability feat) and he can rip planets apart.

Now what reasons are you saying that superman is gladiators superior when gladiator has done feats that superman failed to do by himself.

you're using jla to quantify superman's speed?

oh, you are not seriously using doctor light's comment are you?

this is in the same issue that superman got too angry to think straight.

yeah... bermm

and using narration to argue against superman is just plain silly, narration wanks superman harder than any of his feats ever do...

Originally posted by Enyalus
*sighs* No, look. Gravity is gravity. And holding a planet in its orbit is not greater than ripping it out of its orbit to move it. According to you, one requires equaling the entire solar system's force. The other requires surpassing it.

Earth, for instance, was struck by a Mars-sized asteroid 4.5 billion years ago, which ended up creating the moon. Yet, Earth's orbit around the sun is still the same, save for the small amount that the moon's gravity now throws it off.

Besides, you were the one saying group feats do not count. Now you're using a feat with Diana, J'onn, and Kal in it? Stop the double standards.

Originally posted by Enyalus
And in order to tear it out of orbit and move it, like Gladiator and Superboy Prime are capable of doing, it takes even more..

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
theres a scan of superman moving a planet by himself in his respect thread

PUt it up so that I can see it.

Originally posted by Raoul
you're using jla to quantify superman's speed?

oh, you are not seriously using doctor light's comment are you?

this is in the same issue that superman got too angry to think straight.

yeah... bermm

and using narration to argue against superman is just plain silly, narration wanks superman harder than any of his feats ever do...

Some of supermans best feats come out of the jla book. You cant accept one thing from it and take away what you dont want.

Im using supermans own words saying that he cant go the speed of light and had to borrow flash speed to keep up with a beam.

A angry superman shouldnt care about how fast he flies and he was going nothing but the speed of sound because he created a sonic boom and doctor light even stated that he was going slower then light.

wonder woman, who also know superman to the best of his abilities stated that it would take superman minutes to fly 22000 miles whereas light would fly those milage instantly. I wil be putting up a scan when I find out how to post images on this site that the superman writer made which indicates his speed, strength, etc.... its basically his bio and that would basically show how much your over exaggerating a character.

Originally posted by carver9
Some of supermans best feats come out of the jla book. You cant accept one thing from it and take away what you dont want.

Im using supermans own words saying that he cant go the speed of light and had to borrow flash speed to keep up with a beam.

A angry superman shouldnt care about how fast he flies and he was going nothing but the speed of sound because he created a sonic boom and doctor light even stated that he was going slower then light.

wonder woman, who also know superman to the best of his abilities stated that it would take superman minutes to fly 22000 miles whereas light would fly those milage instantly. I wil be putting up a scan when I find out how to post images on this site that the superman writer made which indicates his speed, strength, etc.... its basically his bio and that would basically show how much your over exaggerating a character.

different writers write jla. you cant use morrison saying one thing and mcduffie saying another and expecting both to fit together...

and what doctor light said was pure bullshit. the guy isn't even qualified to know how fast superman is...

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Caver was bring up constant narration points..so if he wants to play that game then fine. Supes was stated as being able to move the planet, he was even stated by Batman as being about to crack earth in half..oh and he has rocked a solar system.

Im bringing up on panel proof and you still havent shown me it saying that superman could fly the speed of light or even close. The last speed indication that was ever brought up about superman was well below the speed of light and this was on so many of occasions.

Originally posted by Raoul
different writers write jla. you cant use morrison saying one thing and mcduffie saying another and expecting both to fit together...

So basically youre saying that we can accept what we want to accept out of comics, all high end feats. Dont that sound kind of crazy to you? 😕

and doctor light has that ability to read the speed of objects and that is what he did with superman, a angry superman that was basically trying to get to a certain location as fast as he could.

Originally posted by carver9
So basically youre saying that we can accept what we want to accept out of comics, all high end feats. Dont that sound kind of crazy to you? 😕

we go by powerset balanced by consistent showings...

Originally posted by carver9
and doctor light has that ability to read the speed of objects and that is what he did with superman, a angry superman that was basically trying to get to a certain location as fast as he could.

doctor light doesnt have faster than light reflexes, or the ability to read something coming at him truly faster than light, unless he had actual time to process it from light years away...

that issue in itself is one of the single worst superman portrayals in recent years. superman would never get that angry over something like that. he'd been through a hell of alot worse and still kept his head... he would have called in the reserves. they would have formulated a plan. superman is not stupid enough to be told luthor's plan and still get too angry to think about it...

its superman.

Originally posted by Raoul
we go by powerset balanced by consistent showings...

doctor light doesnt have faster than light reflexes, or the ability to read something coming at him truly faster than light, unless he had actual time to process it from light years away...

that issue in itself is one of the single worst superman portrayals in recent years. superman would never get that angry over something like that. he'd been through a hell of alot worse and still kept his head... he would have called in the reserves. they would have formulated a plan. superman is not stupid enough to be told luthor's plan and still get too angry to think about it...

its superman.

And what is this powerset that youre bringing up because besides space flight (which almost every top tier has under there belts) there is nothing that proves that superman could go the speed of light, even his bio say that his top speed is 2000 mps (which I will be posting today).

Wonderwoman stated the same thing, that he can go 2000 mps, his race with flash, the only speed that was brought up was 2000 mps and this was during the time where he was shooting his heat vision at flash. Im not saying that superman is slow because he is quite fast but you all are over exaggerating a lot.

By the way, doctor light has a lot of on panel proof of him tagging speedsters, including flash, he just that good. He can read supermans speed and that is what he did. You can accept it or throw it out like half of the things that is brought up about superman.

Superman stomps Blackbolt. Either way...

Supes has quite a number of tricks with sonics of his own.

Creating counter-frequencies on the fly:

Destroys "Z" by creating white noise (which I've heard is a weakness to BB.)

Continued:

A weakened Superman (kryptonite poisoning) uses sonics to deactivate both a technological device AND to reverse mind control of the human brain for a city full of people.

And for Carver. For statements, here is one about moving planets..

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/Supermanpushplanetact797.jpg

Glads is a Superman lite brick. Supes is not only superior to Glads in standard categories, but far surpasses him in versatility as well.