Re: Professor X vs. Master Yoda
Originally posted by Impediment
Professor X - Leader, founder and godfather of the X-Men. Charles Xavier is often described as the mightiest mortal mind in the Marvel universe. His psionic powers are legendary, and though his broken body is confined to a wheel chair, has saved the X-Men on numerous occasions. He has trained many young mutants in taming and harnessing their power for the betterment of mankind.Yoda - Leader and master of the Jedi Knights of the Old Republic. Yoda is considered the ultimate Jedi whose knowledge and ability with the Force is second to none among the Jedi and who gives even the Sith pause. Though appearing wizened and infirm he strikes dread even in martial combat. He has trained many young Padawans in sharpening and harnessing their power for the betterment of mankind.
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Yoda won't be able to use his lightlaber for the professor will mind f*ck him vs. Yoda will be able to carve the professor up like a thankgiving turkey.
This contest boils down to the mind game. Who is stronger? Which is a good question because I don't believe we ever really saw either one unleash their true potential in the movies.
Would telepathy overpower The Force? Or would The Force overtake Earth's most powerful telepathic?
are you kidding me?
yoda far exceeds professor x.
yoda can sense events occuring from accross the galaxy as soon as they happen which is why he knew the clones has betrayed him.
professor x needs a machine just to sense mutants accross the country, i would say professor x is sorely outclassed.
you ask if telepathy can overcome force?
NO!!!!!
in star wars the force is in every living thing and all around, but professor x's telepathy is just inside his own mind.
i dare go so far as to say after 800 years of jedi training, yoda can resist a mind trick and could probably even turn professor x's own powers against him.
yoda slaughters him here lol
Re: Re: Professor X vs. Master Yoda
Originally posted by Man of Christ
are you kidding me?
yoda far exceeds professor x.yoda can sense events occuring from accross the galaxy as soon as they happen which is why he knew the clones has betrayed him.
professor x needs a machine just to sense mutants accross the country, i would say professor x is sorely outclassed.
Cerebro augments Xavier's already incredible powers, is all.
Originally posted by Man of Christ
you ask if telepathy can overcome force?
NO!!!!!
in star wars the force is in every living thing and all around, but professor x's telepathy is just inside his own mind.
i dare go so far as to say after 800 years of jedi training, yoda can resist a mind trick and could probably even turn professor x's own powers against him.
The whole " telepathy just inside his head" comment is wrong. Xavier can reach out and control the minds of others. Who is to say that Yoda, while not weak minded, can't be overtaken, if only for the briefest of time, by Xavier?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Sure, cuz Yoda is just a weak minded fool.
See, why do you act like a silly *******, because the guy you want to win simply wouldn't?
Has Yoda shown in any of the movies any ability at mind-control or mind-control resistance that Xavier has and can dish out? No, he hasn't. Granted, the Force grants him some level of mind-prowess, ie he can sense shit and whatnot, but when it comes to a battle of the minds, Xavier is Tyson at his peak and Yoda is Glass ****ing Joe.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Professor X managed to contain the Phoenix and even fought against her, when he saw that he was going to get disintegrated, he still while still trying to get contact to Phoenix moved his entire consciousness. Furthermore the moment Xaviar was pulled out of the dreamworld that Strykes son had placed him in, Strykes son couldn't pull him back in, Xaviar resisted.In my Opinion Professor X wins, since frankly I cannot come up with a single mind feat from the Movie on Yoda's part that nears what Xaviar has done.
Xavier couldn't resist the Phoenix whatsoever. Jean was resisting the the Phoenix
Originally posted by RobtardOK haermm
See, why do you act like a silly *******, because the guy you want to win simply wouldn't?Has Yoda shown in any of the movies any ability at mind-control or mind-control resistance that Xavier has and can dish out? No, he hasn't. Granted, the Force grants him some level of mind-prowess, ie he can sense shit and whatnot, but when it comes to a battle of the minds, Xavier is Tyson at his peak and Yoda is Glass ****ing Joe.
Re: Re: Re: Professor X vs. Master Yoda
Originally posted by Impediment
Cerebro augments Xavier's already incredible powers, is all.The whole " telepathy just inside his head" comment is wrong. Xavier can reach out and control the minds of others. Who is to say that Yoda, while not weak minded, can't be overtaken, if only for the briefest of time, by Xavier?
Nay for if xavier were so powerful he wouldnt need cerebro and would just do what yoda does and thats sense people who are galaxies away through the force, not need some machine just to sense people on the same country or planet.
the whole telepathy is just inside his head comment is right, you just made the straw-man falllacy is all. what im saying is the power yoda wields known as the force is all around but the power the professor uses is just within him. basically there is more force to go around then telepathy and hello yoda has had 800 years of jedi training, im sure the ability to resist jedi mind trick or in this case charles' equivalent occured some time in there
so all in all yoda comes out on top
Re: Re: Re: Re: Professor X vs. Master Yoda
Originally posted by Man of Christ✅ Shit man, X needed Cerebro to locate Rogue, who was in the same town as he. Yoda sensed Jedi across the galaxy. Do the math.
Nay for if xavier were so powerful he wouldnt need cerebro and would just do what yoda does and thats sense people who are galaxies away through the force, not need some machine just to sense people on the same country or planet.the whole telepathy is just inside his head comment is right, you just made the straw-man falllacy is all. what im saying is the power yoda wields known as the force is all around but the power the professor uses is just within him. basically there is more force to go around then telepathy and hello yoda has had 800 years of jedi training, im sure the ability to resist jedi mind trick or in this case charles' equivalent occured some time in there
so all in all yoda comes out on top
Shit man, Jedi Mind trick doesn't even work on Padme, but X's telepathy can mind rape at least 50 people simultaneously.
The only reason X uses cerebro is because it cost him so much money to build it and if he didn't use it once in a while (even though he doesn't need to) it would be a waste. True story.
Originally posted by PlacidityJedi mind trick and telepathy are two different things.
Shit man, Jedi Mind trick doesn't even work on Padme, but X's telepathy can mind rape at least 50 people simultaneously.The only reason X uses cerebro is because it cost him so much money to build it and if he didn't use it once in a while (even though he doesn't need to) it would be a waste. True story.
And he used it why? haermm
Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Xavier couldn't resist the Phoenix whatsoever. Jean was resisting the the Phoenix
He couldn't resist her physical attack, but the fact is that he managed to contain the Phoenix personality when it first emerged, and later managed to battle with it from my point of view losing when Jean disintegrated him with her telekinese, not by destroying his mind.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Jedi mind trick and telepathy are two different things.
Really how?
Mind trick is from what I remember from the film a form of telepathy where you enter the mind of the person infront of you using the force to influence the thoughts of that person.
Well atleast that is how I understand it, but their is too me a major difference in the "two types" of telepathy, the telepathy that the force can utilize has only been shown affecting the weakminded, where as Erik Lensher in the movie, (I wouldn't call him weakminded) was unable to stop Charles from entering his thoughts and looking through them like it was a open book, now I could be wrong but did Yoda at any point in the movies do that?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
OK haermm
Glad you agree that Yoda hasn't done anything in the films mental-wise that comes close to Xavier. Sensing disturbances in the Force, just won't cut what Xavier can do with his mind powers.
Now, if Yoda could unless his Force powers quicker than the speed of a thought, he could win.
Originally posted by Robtardyou do realize that I am not the only one here that thinks Yoda would pwn, right? Just saying.
Glad you agree that Yoda hasn't done anything in the films mental-wise that comes close to Xavier. Sensing disturbances in the Force, just won't cut what Xavier can do with his mind powers.Now, if Yoda could unless his Force powers quicker than the speed of a thought, he could win.
Hmm, I was just thinking, Yoda sensing events doesn't necessarily mean he has telepathy or that feat represents telepathy. No one knows exactly how the force works. Like Rob said it could just be sensing a disturbance in the force or it could be like Silver Surfer's cosmic awareness ability (obviously not as potent), which isn't telepathy.
If Yoda was capable of long range telepathy like people implied, then him and Obi Wan wouldn't have needed to recalibrate the signal meant to lure in the remaining Jedi. Yoda could have just sent out a telepathic message. But he couldn't, because his "sensing ability" isn't telepathy.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
you do realize that I am not the only one here that thinks Yoda would pwn, right? Just saying.
They're wrong too, obviously.
Until someone can show some feat of Yoda's that proves he's some sort of mental-empath-juggernaut, like Xavier is, he doesn't have a chance, Xavier can think faster than Yoda can expell some Force power.