Not really no, if I understand correctly the death of a force user unlocks the full abilities of that particular forceuser and the appearance as a Force Ghost is more like a busstop on the way to the final destination, furthermore I have yet to see a living Jedi utilize a force ghost and even if I had, I still lack the evidence (from the movies at least) that they can utilize telepathy on the level that Xaviar portrayed.
A very interesting post. I'd say Yoda would beat Professor X (Assuming that the battle takes place in a universe where abilities such as telepathy and manipulating the Force exist).
- Yoda has a terribly strong mind. Someone said Xavier could 'mindrape' 50 people at once. Yoda could exactly do the same.
- Yoda has never underestimated any opponent so he would never be caught by surprise as some of you seem to claim.
I have to admitt Xavier has the most powerful mind between the two of them but how can you expect Xavier to beat Yoda when the Force runs through all living beings and Yoda can use the Force as a weapon?
The fact is that you're comparing two character with complete different powers and contexts... There really isn't going to be a clear winner.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Not really no, if I understand correctly the death of a force user unlocks the full abilities of that particular forceuser and the appearance as a Force Ghost is more like a busstop on the way to the final destination, furthermore I have yet to see a living Jedi utilize a force ghost and even if I had, I still lack the evidence (from the movies at least) that they can utilize telepathy on the level that Xaviar portrayed.
in knights of the old republic kreia was entering people's minds left and right, killig people with the force through thier mind, etc...... these feats in sure yoda could do but doesnt have a propensity to do them.
Originally posted by Man of Christ
in knights of the old republic kreia was entering people's minds left and right, killig people with the force through thier mind, etc...... these feats in sure yoda could do but doesnt have a propensity to do them.
What happened in the knights of the old republic is of no consequence when discussing two characters and their appearances in movies.
If we take Comic Xaviar, Xaviar has shown himself capable of manipulating a entire planet without cerebro while he was located on another planet.
But as said that is irrelevant to this discussion.
Before Yoda finishes uttering the first syllable to mind trick Xavier, Xavier will already be in Yoda's mind and convincing the green stub he's a Japanese school girl with a scat fetish.
So, I ask again, is there any relevant feat from the movies that Yoda has done with his supposed mind-powers that can't at least match what Xavier has done?
Originally posted by Man of Christ
in context, those feats in kotor are relevant
Actually they isn't since they belong to a entire different character, with a alignment entire different from Yoda, and lastly and most importantly the feats are performed on another media, that on this part of the board isn't concideret a valid way to provide proof of a characters given abilities. For instance when discussing Sidious his ability to create a forcestorm has no relevance when he is discussed here.
If we could use everything then I would begin to pull out the feats that Xavier has performed in the Comics as well but fact remains that those are simply not relevant to Movie Xavier, just like feats from a computer game has no relevance when trying to portray the abilities that Movie Yoda have, when it's ONLY the abilities shown in the movies that has relevance.
I'm pro Yoda here.
Not that I dont respect the power of Xavier, but if his one trick fails, he is doomed, whereas the ways that Yoda could destroy him that I could see are way more varied..
Yoda might not have to have to mentally overpower Charles directly, he could mind trick one of his own team to assassinate him.
And judging by what we have seen Yoda do in both movies and eu with the force using it to move things, he might make short work of Cerebro if he gets anywhere near it.
And can Xavier remain composed enough to do any mental overiding, whilst being force chocked or flung against something hard like Yoda did to the Emporer's guards in ROTS...?
And what if Yoda gets himself a little magneto helmet...?
Then the only one who thinks that they are a Japanase school girl, will be the school girl in japan who looks up out the window from her classwork to see whats left of Xavier burning up on reentry after Yoda has force flung Xavier into orbit. 😛
They both have the power to one-shot each other, Xavier taking over Yoda's mind and Yoda using some power of the Force that is at his disposal (not choke), so it comes down to who could attack first.
I'm guessing Xavier can think faster than Yoda can Force 'anything'. One that note, which Force power could kill Xavier quickly that Yoda could use?
Heheheee Good point, that, about the first draw.
I can see ambushing then snapping his neck with the force or force crushing his head might be pretty quick...
Creeping up behind him and using a serving dish to decapitate Xavier could be cool. (As long a Xavier is unaware of Yoda before hand, granted.)
Force lighting electrocuting Xavier...? All the metal bits in his Chair'll act as nice conductors.
I assumed this was a face-off fight, hence the quickest draw wins scenario. If it's a seek and destroy mission/fight, Yoda probably has the advantage since he's a midget and has far greater mobility.
Though Xavier is able to sense minds, so.
Can Yoda Force Lightning? Thought that was a Sith only ability.
I'm still leaning Xavier makes Yoda think he's a Japanese school girl with a scat fetish FTW.