What the Heck is Obi-wan talking about?!

Started by Man of Christ4 pages

What the Heck is Obi-wan talking about?!

When he is trying to talk vader down before thier fight in rots, he says "only a sith deals in absolutes" as if the jedi are these morally relative being which is a buncha bull crap

just look at the jedi code

There is no emotion, there is peace.
There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.
There is no passion, there is serenity.
(There is no chaos, there is harmony.)(*)
There is no death, there is the Force.

no emotion? no passion?

that seems like an absolute to me.

so why would obi wan make such a blunder?

What he means by a sith dealing with absolutes, means that there is a set way to act on a certain instance. Obiwans thinking is to address each case differently with his ethical/courteous/coherent/considerate/tolerant....etc manner.
There are no set rules to follow. Set rules leads to the darkside

Which is ironic considering, well, the line is self-contradicting.

Is this canon?

There is no emotion, there is peace.
There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.
There is no passion, there is serenity.
(There is no chaos, there is harmony.)(*)
There is no death, there is the Force.

Yes

And even if it weren't, Yoda shows dealings in the absolute: "Do, or do not. There is no try."

Personally, I think that it is good ol' George creating, yet another paradox in the Star Wars Movies.

The list goes on...

Glad someone else thought of this too. I wondered about this comment the first time I saw EP3. I think it should be the other way around. Only a sith would speak of no moral absolutes.

That Jedi Code isn't canon.

However, being pedantic about what Obi-Wan said is extremely unhelpful. Obi-Wan was simply commenting on the ludicrous nature of Anakin's with me/against me line. Trying to extrapolate beyond that is pointless.

ya he wasn't trying to present a lecture he had prepared on thirty-seven very neatly hand-printed 3x5 note cards that would logically explain why anakin shouldn't fall to the dark side, he was pulling stuff out of his hat.

like bunnies

indeed.

beer

milk

Obi Wan's Magic Show.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
That Jedi Code isn't canon.

However, being pedantic about what Obi-Wan said is extremely unhelpful. Obi-Wan was simply commenting on the ludicrous nature of Anakin's with me/against me line. Trying to extrapolate beyond that is pointless.

if what you say is true then he wouldnt have generalized and said "only a sith" he would have said something about anakin in particular which he didnt.

and there is a point to this i am merely discussing one of many problems i have with the horrendous dialogue in episodes 1 2 3 thats one thing permitted and purpoted on this forum is it not?

What's not permitted then?

The contradiction is no mistake; The Jedi are narrow-minded and dogmatic. The Jedi Code is prohibitive and is filled with absolute rules that can't be broken.

When Anakin proclaims all who oppose him as his enemy. To Obi-Wan he sees this as a declarative worthy of a Sith, and he calls Anakin out on it...but in a manner that reaks of hypocrisy. That Jedi hypocrisy illustrates that he doesn't understand-or cannot understand-what has befallen Anakin.

Just cause a character says something doesn't make it true.

The Jedi Code is canon - it's spelled out in the Star Wars Encyclopedia.

It isn't

in the