What the Heck is Obi-wan talking about?!

Started by sweersa4 pages
Originally posted by Jack Daniels
yeah spielberg would agree..lol

Spielberg isn't perfect. Remember Indy 4? Yeah...don't put all that on George.

People like to use GL as a scapegoat these days. Makes me sick.

Well... it's not enirely silly. After all, let's see.

The George Lucas Films in the last ten years:
TPM
AOTC
ROTS
Indy4

The Spielberg films in the last 10 years:
Saving private Ryan
AI
Minority Report
Catch me if you can
The Terminal
War of the Worls
Munich
Indy4.

Hmmm... the overall quality tips to Spielberg. Only three lesser films out of 8... Lucas's films all suffer from the same ailments...

Originally posted by queeq
Well... it's not enirely silly. After all, let's see.

The George Lucas Films in the last ten years:
TPM
AOTC
ROTS
Indy4

The Spielberg films in the last 10 years:
Saving private Ryan
AI
Minority Report
Catch me if you can
The Terminal
War of the Worls
Munich
Indy4.

Hmmm... the overall quality tips to Spielberg. Only three lesser films out of 8... Lucas's films all suffer from the same ailments...

Steven has always directed more than George. Lucas is more of a businessman, look at all of his companies, he directs on the side, so of course Steve is going to have a much larger library of films.

George is an easy target so people love to bash him. The funny side is he doesn't care. I wouldn't either if I was as successful as him, who would?

As a creator he can do anything he wants, if someone doesn't like it they don't have to buy it or support it. But people do, espicially kids, like us many years ago. Star Wars is still selling, and kids still love it. The main reason so many older SW fans have the PT is becuase they were not kids like me when they saw them. But of course they were kids when the OT came out.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
That Jedi Code isn't canon.

Very true, which makes this whole thing pointless.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
However, being pedantic about what Obi-Wan said is extremely unhelpful. Obi-Wan was simply commenting on the ludicrous nature of Anakin's with me/against me line. Trying to extrapolate beyond that is pointless.

Its not being pedantic.

1. Lucas can't write dialogue for beans.

2. Obi-Wan's statement is contradictory and such is worth noting, but it really has no further meaning, because (see #1), so it it can't really have any further point.

Originally posted by Ordo

1. Lucas can't write dialogue for beans.

We all know you are a great writer, and we look forward to seeing your version of the PT scripts.

Originally posted by sweersa
As a creator he can do anything he wants, if someone doesn't like it they don't have to buy it or support it. But people do, espicially kids, like us many years ago. Star Wars is still selling, and kids still love it. The main reason so many older SW fans have the PT is becuase they were not kids like me when they saw them. But of course they were kids when the OT came out.

And I will never forget going to theatre for ANH....sad maybe but true one of the most exciting nights of my childhood..lol..then when ESB came out I remember the day we drove to the theatre just to find out what the date it was coming out...now days u just log on moviefone or google..lol..back then we had to drive down...wonder why we just didnt get a paper? Think my parents were just teasing me... 😂

They were.

They did take me to see it though so it was all worth it! makes me wanna watch ANH and ESB 2day...all I have on my pitiful agenda 4 the day is more cleaning..lol..maybe send out a resume or two to make unemployment happy...nobody hires A+ bench techs anymore...should never wasted my $ getting certified...Though it is a lifetime cert...The day is coming (probably distant though) where Im gonna take bartending classes...there IS ALWAYS a need for them!!!Already have a possible future job doing that..it's sort of promised on a mutual drunken nite just dont know when cause other things have to come first and plans can change... anyways what was I saying..lol...SW thats it! I cant wait to go back 2 werk!...If it wasnt for the milk bar I might lose my insanity..hehe

Originally posted by Ordo
Its not being pedantic.

By an absolutely enormous margin- yes it is.

Originally posted by Jack Daniels
And I will never forget going to theatre for ANH....sad maybe but true one of the most exciting nights of my childhood..lol..then when ESB came out I remember the day we drove to the theatre just to find out what the date it was coming out...now days u just log on moviefone or google..lol..back then we had to drive down...wonder why we just didnt get a paper? Think my parents were just teasing me... 😂

Could you call them?

I do remember the theater was not open when we went...there were no cars in the lot place looked closed...dont know about all that I dont even know if we had a phone?..lol...long time ago...just SW memories never fade with me anyways

Originally posted by Ushgarak
By an absolutely enormous margin- yes it is.

So dialogue and its intent really doesn't matter? Phrasing doesn't matter? Should we avoid looking at everything in film beyond face value?

Originally posted by queeq
Obi Wan's Magic Show.

is that where Obi-Wan cuts off dudes arm and its like now you see it now u dont..lol... or when he just disappears and comes back in ESB glowing..or..I better stop 😛

Some Jedi deal in black and white. period. *Shrug*

Originally posted by Anakin_the_Hutt
When Obi-Wan is telling Anakin about his "new assignment" Anakin responds with, "You're asking me to do something against the Jedi Code, against the Republic, against a mentor and a friend...that's what's of place here."

Anakin is a hypocrite to be complaining about going against the Jedi Code when he's been going against it dozens of times. He's also going against the Republic by helping his "friend and mentor" eliminate the Jedi and abolish the entire government. just so he could have the power to save Padme.

Originally posted by Forcewielder
Anakin is a hypocrite to be complaining about going against the Jedi Code when he's been going against it dozens of times. He's also going against the Republic by helping his "friend and mentor" eliminate the Jedi and abolish the entire government. just so he could have the power to save Padme.

Seeing as Palpatine is still Senator, and still has control over the Republic, Anakin's the only Jedi to stay true to the Republic. True the Senate is corrupt and ruled by a evil dictator, but the Jedi always talk about how they "serve the Republic"...bollocks

The Jedi serve the government that gives them the best councel houses...

I can't remember the exact quote, but i think it's the truest quote in the whole SW saga, Palpatine says that Jedi and Sith are the same...

Imo, the Jedi were loyal to the Republic. Before Palpatine got his claws in to it, yes, it was a bureaucratic mess, but it was still fairly democratic and peaceful (the republic, not the senate).

Palpatine slowly began to take over, and he distorted the Republic and the Senate just enough for it not to be what it was when the Jedi were loyal.

Anakin was loyal to one thing and one thing only. Padme. He is a hypocrite, imo. He doesn't care about the "Jedi Code" unless it suits his own ends. He's the one who decided to betray the Jedi and become Palpatine's apprentice. He would have easily betrayed Palpatine too, as he told Obi-Wan about his new empire.

He would have got away with it too, if it wasn't for that pesky Jedi Master...

Is the new Clone Wars cartoon canon? How about the old one? And The Force Unleashed? After all Lucas had some involvment in all of them.

Originally posted by ares834
Is the new Clone Wars cartoon canon? How about the old one? And The Force Unleashed? After all Lucas had some involvment in all of them.

They are not the movies so no.

We are as yet in the dark about their official status.