One Piece/Bleach/Naruto vs Cell

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jimBOFH Senior Member

Originally posted by Wil7
I don't know alot about DBZ, but I know the story. I know DBZ>>>>Naruto.

Gohan as a little kid beat Cell, and he wasn't the strongest of DBZ at that point.

He is strong enough to hurt him, because he can get mad, get all of the clones to turn into the nine tailed fox, and all of them punch him to death.

Destroy him how? They would use Toad Flame bomb and burn him to death.

The islands, if i remember correctly, were not even that big, while the 4 tails destroyed a corner of a big forrest, so no, I say 4 tails wins.

Yeah, I am not into One Piece of Bleach like I am into Naruto.

Also, Naruto has sage mode, all of his rasengan moves, Gamakatsu, and Gamakeichi to annoy him to death, Gamabunta, can transform into 9 tailes with Gamabunta, and please, Cell isn't anything to Kyuubi( Cell was able to destroy islands, Kyuubi shattered mountains into pieces), and alot more. Naruto can solo this.


Actually, Gohan was the strongest of the Z fighters at that point- he turned Super Saiyan 2, whereas Vegeta, Goku and Trunks were all still Super Saiyan 1. That's pretty much the only point at which he's stronger than Goku and Vegeta, but for the fight with Cell, he's stronger.
Cell's strength is not limited to destroying islands- all the Z fighters are quite capable of destroying a planet by the Cell Saga, even Yamcha, Tien or Krillen- they're more powerful at this point than Vegeta was when he arrived on Earth, and he destroyed Arlia before then.
To give a sense of scale as to how strong the Z fighters are, in the World Martial Arts Tournaments in Dragonball, the strongest martial artists on the planet had strengths of between 100 and 200, compared to a standard power level of 5 (Raditz's reading of a farmer's power level when he arrives on earth). Goku and Piccolo each have a maximum power of ~1000 with their most powerful attacks when Raditz arrives on Earth.
By the time of the Cell Saga, Super Saiyan 1 Gohan has a power level of 150, 000, 000. This doubles when he transforms to Super Saiyan 2.

Wil7 Faster than a bullet

Originally posted by Kento
Teen Gohan was >> Anybody but Buu because Buu hadn't came in yet. And he gets weaker and is still = Cell after seven years.

Naruto doesn't even have half the strength Gokou does and Gokou couldn't hurt him. Naruto won't even be able to touch him.

The same way Cell destroyed small islands..and Piccolo destroyed the moon. With a ki blast. And great..to bad fire won't work as it's not strong enough. Even if it could Cell can regen easily.

4-tails used all his power to destroy a small part of the forest. Cell casually, as in without trying, was able to destroy islands that were bigger than what Naruto did.

During the first saga of DBZ Piccolo destroyed the moon. Cell is hundreds of times stronger than Piccolo.

You are talking about teen gohan, i am talkng about little baby gohan, who wasn't stronger than goku, buu, especially broly, etc at that point.

I don't remeber Gohan and Goku fighting.

Cell regain easily. If it wasn't for Manda shedding his skin, he would have died, and he can't regain to everything, or else he would have regained against Gohan, and trunks.

Well, since we didn't see much of 4-tails, he could possibly destroy bigger stuff than a little bit of a forest, plus, the forest was way bigger than the island, or at least that is how it looked.

Desrtroying the moon is not as big of a feat as is shattering mountains into little pieces, and sending tidal waves to his enemies. 1 tidal wave finished off cell.

Naruto still has all of the rasengan moves, red chakra, gamabunta, his two sons to annoy him to death, liguid bullet with gamabunta, millions of shadow clones, etc.

TheBadguy Senior Member

Originally posted by Wil7
I don't know alot about DBZ, but I know the story. I know DBZ>>>>Naruto.

Gohan as a little kid beat Cell, and he wasn't the strongest of DBZ at that point.

He is strong enough to hurt him, because he can get mad, get all of the clones to turn into the nine tailed fox, and all of them punch him to death.

Destroy him how? They would use Toad Flame bomb and burn him to death.

The islands, if i remember correctly, were not even that big, while the 4 tails destroyed a corner of a big forrest, so no, I say 4 tails wins.

Yeah, I am not into One Piece of Bleach like I am into Naruto.

Also, Naruto has sage mode, all of his rasengan moves, Gamakatsu, and Gamakeichi to annoy him to death, Gamabunta, can transform into 9 tailes with Gamabunta, and please, Cell isn't anything to Kyuubi( Cell was able to destroy islands, Kyuubi shattered mountains into pieces), and alot more. Naruto can solo this.

Originally posted by Wil7
Desrtroying the moon is not as big of a feat as is shattering mountains into little pieces, and sending tidal waves to his enemies. 1 tidal wave finished off cell.
Originally posted by Wil7

Naruto can solo this.

...Please don't post in this thread anymore

Kento The last Hokage

Originally posted by Wil7
You are talking about teen gohan, i am talkng about little baby gohan, who wasn't stronger than goku, buu, especially broly, etc at that point.

I don't remeber Gohan and Goku fighting.

Cell regain easily. If it wasn't for Manda shedding his skin, he would have died, and he can't regain to everything, or else he would have regained against Gohan, and trunks.

Well, since we didn't see much of 4-tails, he could possibly destroy bigger stuff than a little bit of a forest, plus, the forest was way bigger than the island, or at least that is how it looked.

Desrtroying the moon is not as big of a feat as is shattering mountains into little pieces, and sending tidal waves to his enemies. 1 tidal wave finished off cell.

Naruto still has all of the rasengan moves, red chakra, gamabunta, his two sons to annoy him to death, liguid bullet with gamabunta, millions of shadow clones, etc.

Since the Cell Saga Gohan has been the strongest. Which is what we are talking about. Which he is a teen in.

Gohan and Gokou never fought...What does that have to do with Gohan being stronger?

To bad Gohan and Trunks have the power to completely disintegrate Cell while Gamabunta doesn't. Not to mention the huge speed advantage any Z fighter or villain has.

Island Cell destroys

http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/read/214/dragon_ball/chapter.16147/page.2/

4-tail damage

http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/read/8/naruto/chapter.22718/page.10/

Who wins?

One tidal wave? Compared to Earth destroying blasts?? Really? Blowing up the moon is less impressive than blowing up a mountain? How?? Roshi destroyed a mountain easily by the way.

And nothing Naruto does or anybody in Naruto does comes even close to what even Master Roshi can do.

Slaanesh The forces of Chaos
Originally posted by TheBadguy
Sorry oh great one for asking how you think the fight would go

oh...you were asking..sory..my bad 😮

i think they can give cell a fight..i don't know how they goin to beat him tho..maybe if somehow he is caught in amaterasu..he'll be burn tu dust and can't reform..and i don't think cell can beat the team too..he has no way to kill eneru or kizaru..i don't think a blast can kill them..he surely can't absorb them cuz they doesn't have physical form..at least thats what i think..

jimBOFH Senior Member

Originally posted by Kento
Since the Cell Saga Gohan has been the strongest. Which is what we are talking about. Which he is a teen in.

Gohan and Gokou never fought...What does that have to do with Gohan being stronger?

To bad Gohan and Trunks have the power to completely disintegrate Cell while Gamabunta doesn't. Not to mention the huge speed advantage any Z fighter or villain has.

Island Cell destroys

http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/read/214/dragon_ball/chapter.16147/page.2/

4-tail damage

http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/read/8/naruto/chapter.22718/page.10/

Who wins?

One tidal wave? Compared to Earth destroying blasts?? Really? Blowing up the moon is less impressive than blowing up a mountain? How?? Roshi destroyed a mountain easily by the way.

And nothing Naruto does or anybody in Naruto does comes even close to what even Master Roshi can do.

I would say that Gohan was the strongest AT the cell saga, but not since the Cell Saga- remember, he spends 7 years not training, but rather trying to constantly suppress his power whenever he's around others, while Vegeta and Goku spend 7 years in intense training. Vegeta's strength in his normal form increases hugely, and he also attains Super Saiyan 2. Goku attains Super Saiyan 3. After the Old Kai increases Gohan's power, he's stronger than either, but by GT he's far weaker than both, again, because he doesn't fight much while Vegeta spends all his time training, as does Goku.

Dark-Jaxx Senior Member

Eneru alone could possibly do this.

He has shown to be able to do enough damage to hurt Cell, is faster, and if Cell blows the planet to piss, IIRC Eneru can function just fine in space.

Now, I am not saying Eneru is more powerful, but Eneru is THE only opponent from any of these series who has shown the specific abilities that would be needed to beat Cell.

The only X factor is Cell's healing factor, so actually, now that I think about it, prolly a stalemate.

Kento The last Hokage

Originally posted by jimBOFH
I would say that Gohan was the strongest AT the cell saga, but not since the Cell Saga- remember, he spends 7 years not training, but rather trying to constantly suppress his power whenever he's around others, while Vegeta and Goku spend 7 years in intense training. Vegeta's strength in his normal form increases hugely, and he also attains Super Saiyan 2. Goku attains Super Saiyan 3. After the Old Kai increases Gohan's power, he's stronger than either, but by GT he's far weaker than both, again, because he doesn't fight much while Vegeta spends all his time training, as does Goku.
Gohan still had his rage fueled power which is what made him > everybody all the time even when his power level was extremely low when Radditz came. When he became Mystic all that hidden power was brought to the surface he wasn't amped and Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Gokou.

Dark-Jaxx Senior Member

Originally posted by Wil7
Naruto can solo this.
haermm

Endless Mike Sqirrel Girl fanboy

Cell wins - there's nothing they can really do to him (well there are some things that would work but he is too fast to get caught in them, assuming this is bloodlusted)

Wei Phoenix One-Eyed Dragon Of Oshu

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
This is incredibly ****ed up and incorrect logic.

"lightning" is not a physical object that can be destroyed.

In any case Cell gets tagged by one of the thousands of genjutsu that gets cast on him and he gets mind ****ed.

Yeah I will admit retardedness there. At first I read it as lightning would end Cell then I somehow read it as lightning would stop his kamehameha and before I fully comprehended the comment it was past 15 minutes and I couldn't edit it. We're even now when it comes to stupid comments and misspellings.

jimBOFH Senior Member

Originally posted by Kento
Gohan still had his rage fueled power which is what made him > everybody all the time even when his power level was extremely low when Radditz came. When he became Mystic all that hidden power was brought to the surface he wasn't amped and Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Gokou.

Yes, but his power still decreases if he doesn't train, while Vegeta and Goku never stop training- and as Saiyans, this means their power continues to rise. After Goku gets turned into a kid, Vegeta is considered to be the strongest fighter on Earth by Bebi, who should know, seeing as he possesses Gohan first. Gohan might potentially be more powerful, but he doesn't train like Vegeta or Goku do.
I guess at the end of the Buu saga, Gohan is the strongest. But from the Cell Saga to the end of DBZ, Gohan's strength is only increased by special events- the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, the transformation to SSJ2, and the upgrade to Mystic. Compare this to Goku and Vegeta, who increase their strength continuously due to their constant training.

Wei Phoenix One-Eyed Dragon Of Oshu

Originally posted by Wil7
I don't know much about one piece or bleach,but naruto should be able to take Cell.

1. Cell lost to Kid Gohan
2. Naruto can out number Cell
3. Gamabunta crushes him
4. 4 tails probably crushes hi
etc.

There are alot of Naruto charaters who can take Cell.

1. Yes Cell lost to the most powerful warrior at the end of the Cell Saga after getting distracted by Vegeta.
2. Cell can summon Cell Jrs. and split his body like Piccolo.
3. don't know who that is.
4. Cell can absorb Naruto and all of his tails.

Dark-Jaxx Senior Member

Gamabunta is the giant fatass frog, and the assertion that he will beat Cell is hilarious.

Kento The last Hokage

Originally posted by jimBOFH
Yes, but his power still decreases if he doesn't train, while Vegeta and Goku never stop training- and as Saiyans, this means their power continues to rise. After Goku gets turned into a kid, Vegeta is considered to be the strongest fighter on Earth by Bebi, who should know, seeing as he possesses Gohan first. Gohan might potentially be more powerful, but he doesn't train like Vegeta or Goku do.
I guess at the end of the Buu saga, Gohan is the strongest. But from the Cell Saga to the end of DBZ, Gohan's strength is only increased by special events- the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, the transformation to SSJ2, and the upgrade to Mystic. Compare this to Goku and Vegeta, who increase their strength continuously due to their constant training.
His power decreases sure but only on the surface. He's got all that power hidden away that he can access when he's angry which makes him stronger than Gokou and Vegeta. Just like in the Radditz fight. He was extremely weaker than Gokou and Piccolo but his rage gave him the power to hurt Radditz than disappeared.

And GT isn't canon. In canon Gohan was the strongest hero by DB's end.

TheBadguy Senior Member

I forgot about the Cell jrs, thats worse overkill. For this fight Cell isn't using them or making more of himself. Its right after he ITs back to earth so he's pissed, basically bloodlusted.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Gamabunta is the giant fatass frog, and the assertion that he will beat Cell is hilarious.

😂

NonSensi-Klown Restricted
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Yeah I will admit retardedness there. At first I read it as lightning would end Cell then I somehow read it as lightning would stop his kamehameha and before I fully comprehended the comment it was past 15 minutes and I couldn't edit it. We're even now when it comes to stupid comments and misspellings.

We can't stop here, this is bat country! haermm

and if Cell blows the planet to piss, IIRC Eneru can function just fine in space.

Lightning doesn't function very well in sp-

I'm just going to shut up about the physics contradictions now.

Dark-Jaxx Senior Member

Eneru functions in space just fine.

Hell, he is currently ruler of the moon. 😐

jimBOFH Senior Member

Originally posted by Kento
His power decreases sure but only on the surface. He's got all that power hidden away that he can access when he's angry which makes him stronger than Gokou and Vegeta. Just like in the Radditz fight. He was extremely weaker than Gokou and Piccolo but his rage gave him the power to hurt Radditz than disappeared.

And GT isn't canon. In canon Gohan was the strongest hero by DB's end.


At the end of DBZ, sure. Gohan is stronger than any fighter except Vegito/Goggeta. However, if he follows the same pattern as he has since the android saga- that is, only training during times of conflict- then Goku and Vegeta will be stronger after any significant length of time. I know GT isn't considered canon, but with respect to normal power levels- i.e. ignoring SSJ4 etc, which are non-canon- I think it's just a natural progression of DBZ.
Compare Trunks at the very end of DBZ to Future Trunks- they should be approximately the same power, if it was about their potential, but they're not- the difference being that Future Trunks has spent his whole life fighting, whereas even with Vegeta for a father, Trunks hasn't trained nearly as hard as Future Trunks.

Kento The last Hokage

Originally posted by jimBOFH
At the end of DBZ, sure. Gohan is stronger than any fighter except Vegito/Goggeta. However, if he follows the same pattern as he has since the android saga- that is, only training during times of conflict- then Goku and Vegeta will be stronger after any significant length of time. I know GT isn't considered canon, but with respect to normal power levels- i.e. ignoring SSJ4 etc, which are non-canon- I think it's just a natural progression of DBZ.
Compare Trunks at the very end of DBZ to Future Trunks- they should be approximately the same power, if it was about their potential, but they're not- the difference being that Future Trunks has spent his whole life fighting, whereas even with Vegeta for a father, Trunks hasn't trained nearly as hard as Future Trunks.
That's completely different. It's not potential for Gohan. It's not something he could train and achieve but doesn't it's something he has already but can't use without getting very angry.

And we never really see how powerful Present Trunks gets except that he and Goten are nearly equal with 18 as kids so it's really impossible to say if Trunks surpassed Future Trunks or got weaker in those ten years at the End of Z than as a kid.