Dooku vs. Raskta Lsu

Started by Red Nemesis3 pages

Dooku vs. Raskta Lsu

That's right- I did it.

This battle does require the 3 categories, so please use them:

1. Saber
2. Force (this one will be sad)
3. All out

My reply to this is a mirror image of my stance in the Mace vs. Kas'im debate, with dooku winning this battle because his advantage in the force has enough magnitude to trump any advanatge Raskta might be able to eek out in saber combat.

What happens in a duel where the Count (for whatever reason) does not use offensive force powers?

Also, Raskta seems to only be vulnerable to TK, not Force Lightning.

does Raskta ever get attacked by Force Lightning? The blast from Bane came after she was already dead didn't it?

Saber combat only? I'd put her and dooku in just about a toss-up. Incidently, i'd put Kas'im just above Dooku. So that's where that all shakes out for me. (sabers only🙂 1. Kas'im 2. Dooku 2. Raskta

I'd need more info on one or the other of them before i could pick a clear-cut winner in an all-out.

opinion (probably influenced by seeing him man-handled by Yoda twice and anakin) make me want to go with Raskta. Ironically, you realize that Johun is the only one to wound bane with a saber in that fight?

oh, wait, forgot the figure 8 thing. But in a force only contest, Raskta wouldn't have her saber neway.

Originally posted by truejedi
does Raskta ever get attacked by Force Lightning? The blast from Bane came after she was already dead didn't it?

Yes she does. At one point Bane fires lightning at Farfalla. Raskta leaps in front of him and deflects the bolts with her blades.

Anyway, if Dooku does not use Force-kinesis, I'd say Raskta wins this. It'll be a very tough fight though (and Dooku will be ticked off at the thought of losing to a dual blade wielder).

Dooku wins. He actually holds the advantage in both force ability and technically skill. Raskta can't compare.

With just sabers. the Count is good but he's going down. Otherwise, he wins pretty easily.

I sincerely doubt Raskta is above him just in technical skill. Dooku is pretty amazing.

But to the extent that she was? I don't think he cared enough to get to that level. Things like politics were much more important to him.

Dooku devoted an incredible amount of time to swordsmanship and utterly disdained the corrupt politics of Republic for a huge part of his life. His skills are described as 'legendary' after all

Raskta was very legendary too. What I'm saying though is that Raskta was super in to just lightsabers, where Dooku didn't care as much (though he still did a lot) because things like diplomacy, and being able to pwn with the Force were more important. Honestly, I think the idea of a Jedi being so into lightsabers that they are basically retarded with the Force as stupid, cause against anyone decent in the Force she gets raped no matter how much better a swordsman.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Raskta was very legendary too. What I'm saying though is that Raskta was super in to just lightsabers,

And? Dooku had greater time to study and his proficiency appears to have been greater

where Dooku didn't care as much (though he still did a lot) because things like diplomacy, and being able to pwn with the Force were more important.

didn't care as much? Dooku focused on Makashi to an incredible degree. He shunned politics for a time and had enough time to focus on his force skills and the others

Honestly, I think the idea of a Jedi being so into lightsabers that they are basically retarded with the Force as stupid, cause against anyone decent in the Force she gets raped no matter how much better a swordsman.

Usually fights come down to sabers, especially in large battles when she has back up

Originally posted by Lightsnake
And? Dooku had greater time to study and his proficiency appears to have been greater

Appears so because of?

Originally posted by Lightsnake
didn't care as much? Dooku focused on Makashi to an incredible degree. He shunned politics for a time and had enough time to focus on his force skills and the others

Yeah it's not like he headed the CIS or anything. Or the fact that he was studying diplomacy and signed up for a Senate intern kind of thing before he even became a padawan. He was, "political idealist, not a terrorist" (Ki-Adi Mundi, ep2).

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Usually fights come down to sabers, especially in large battles when she has back up

But not against someone of Dooku's Force caliber. He'd just pwn her with the Force more easily than he did Obi-wan. Most fights we see in SW don't have that use of the Force because everyone uses Force 'bubbles' to protect themself so their isn't much point. Fighting alone, she'd be "effed in the a."

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Appears so because of?

Greater showings, for one. Context, textual backing, too


Yeah it's not like he headed the CIS or anything. Or the fact that he was studying diplomacy and signed up for a Senate intern kind of thing before he even became a padawan. He was, "political idealist, not a terrorist" (Ki-Adi Mundi, ep2).

He was heading the CIS when he was eighty. He'd been a dedicated Jedi student for a massive, massive part of his long life


But not against someone of Dooku's Force caliber. He'd just pwn her with the Force more easily than he did Obi-wan. Most fights we see in SW don't have that use of the Force because everyone uses Force 'bubbles' to protect themself so their isn't much point. Fighting alone, she'd be "effed in the a."
Probably. Of course one could make the argument she's adequate on her own against people not on Bane or Dooku's tier

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract

Yeah it's not like he headed the CIS or anything. Or the fact that he was studying diplomacy and signed up for a Senate intern kind of thing before he even became a padawan. He was, "political idealist, not a terrorist" (Ki-Adi Mundi, ep2).

This referred to his political tactics, not his competency.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract

But not against someone of Dooku's Force caliber. He'd just pwn her with the Force more easily than he did Obi-wan. Most fights we see in SW don't have that use of the Force because everyone uses Force 'bubbles' to protect themself so their isn't much point. Fighting alone, she'd be "effed in the a."


She's a weapons master in a time where Jedi fought other force users. You don't think she'd be at least a little more familiar with defensive techniques in the force than Obi-Wan?

Originally posted by Red Nemesis

This referred to his political tactics, not his competency.

She's a weapons master in a time where Jedi fought other force users. You don't think she'd be at least a little more familiar with defensive techniques in the force than Obi-Wan? [/B]

Ya well she couldn't block Bane's force push..

Yeah. And if she can't block Bane's Force-push, she probably sucks balls.

Originally posted by kotorfan
Ya well she couldn't block Bane's force push..
Originally posted by Faunus
Yeah. And if she can't block Bane's Force-push, she probably sucks balls.

I lol'd. But seriously- Bane's FP> Dooku's FP. All we know is that she couldn't protect vs. Bane. Dooku would be a different story.

When augmented by Worror's battle meditation and with Farfalla using all of his power to provide her with Force-support, Bane's attack still flattened her against a wall. While that speaks more to Bane's immense power than Raskta's relative weakness, it indicates clearly that she isn't a match on any level for a superior Force-user. Dooku is probably the third most powerful being alive in the PT era; he would still crush her.