Iran blasts Obama's nuclear criticism

Started by JayJohn854 pages

Its simple if Iran's president or whatever the position is over there didnt come out with mad ass statements against the west and labelling america the great satan and all that crap they could probably have gotten away with arming themshelves with nukes....But lets get realistic here folks anyone who has nukes has them as deterrents its what all that bickering is about in europe of a missile shield is about....The possibility of losing deterrent status by america rendering strike capability void which is impossible anyway just send more nukes lol.

Iran are nervous I would be two america has invaded there neighbour, saudi arabia dislikes Iran(this could be a understatement_ and Israel could go to war with them at any time. They just want to defend themshelves as guy said there beforehand. I seriously doubt they want to actually nuke anyone no country or leader does because they are all aware of the consequences...MAD- mutually assured destruction.

Personally I would be more worried about North Korea, the power vacuum that will occur there when good old kim dies....Thats one volatile state, who are still at a defacto state of war with south korea. I dont think there was any treaty signed there, the border is basically temporary any kind of hardliner could take up the reins there and be a even bigger threat. Worse what relationship the west has with kim jong most likely wouldnt be present with mr X.

America was against Iran getting weapons before Amedinejad.

Couldn't America make the deal with Iran that if they (as they claim) only want the Uran for a peacefull purpose offer to give them the required Uran, as a sign of good will from Iran they would have to be checked regulary by the group (that I cannot remember the name on) that checks the Nuclear Powerplant etc?

Iran could just get the power from America, but because America ****ed up the middle east, they hate America and want their own power.

Which of course means they're making nuclear weapons.

Lol, yup, it was America that messed up the middle east

history there started in the 1960s, not, you know, thousands of years ago.

Hell, the middle east was a peaceful utopia prior to the Americans arrival.

Originally posted by inimalist
Lol, yup, it was America that messed up the middle east

history there started in the 1960s, not, you know, thousands of years ago.

Hell, the middle east was a peaceful utopia prior to the Americans arrival.

More like the 50s or 40s.

And I know it was shit prior, I'm just saying the problems we have today are because of interventionism from the US and UK. The UK even created Iraq.

Originally posted by lord xyz
More like the 50s or 40s.

And I know it was shit prior, I'm just saying the problems we have today are because of interventionism from the US and UK. The UK even created Iraq.

indeed, the UK bears much more blame

if you are interested, Al Jazeera did a series about "Arab Unity" that talks about a lot of this stuff. Its on the Al Jazeera english youtube page. Hit me with a pm and I'll see if I can look it up for you

By no means am I trying to say the Americans have done anything helpful there, and the invasion of Lebanon in the 80s is one of the most critical mistakes of american foreign intervention I know of, just kind of reacted to the insinuation that all of the problems in the middle east (which might not include iran... it is a persian nation, so I think it is classified as "south asian", like afghanistan or pakistan... blah, stupid classifications) are American in origin.

Originally posted by inimalist
indeed, the UK bears much more blame

if you are interested, Al Jazeera did a series about "Arab Unity" that talks about a lot of this stuff. Its on the Al Jazeera english youtube page. Hit me with a pm and I'll see if I can look it up for you

By no means am I trying to say the Americans have done anything helpful there, and the invasion of Lebanon in the 80s is one of the most critical mistakes of american foreign intervention I know of, just kind of reacted to the insinuation that all of the problems in the middle east (which might not include iran... it is a persian nation, so I think it is classified as "south asian", like afghanistan or pakistan... blah, stupid classifications) are American in origin.

I never meant to imply it's all America's fault, they do hold a lot of the blame, however.

What's interesting is that most of these cotastrophees are from right wing governments. A bit contreversial, but I'm not insinuating anything, just something worth noticing.

While the U.S. made it messier, I always credited Britain in the 1930's with holding a parallel to the current situation in Iraq. Their military withdrawal from Iraq allowed for revolts against British-promoted Iraqi rule, and chaos ensued. I often look at the event as a message that a pull-out this second would be disastrous.