Why do so many people think that Goku is a bad father?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Being an idiot is no excuse.

Oh, and to add to that, it was not bad enough he made his son fight Cell, but he gave Cell a fvckin SENZU BEAN. 😐

Seriously, wtf is up with that shit? 😬

I forgot about that. It made sense when on Namek and he gave Vegeta one, Vegeta saved his son and friends lives. To give one to Cell..total dick move, Goku can just be really really dumb sometimes.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
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I know, it was a little bit stupid of him, but it wasn't intentionally cruel: he wasn't like "oh, I want to get Gohan willed so I'll..."

That was an ACCIDENT

Vegeta never even hugged Trunks. Did you see how he treated future trunks (up until he got hit by cell)? He also hit Trunks for trying to help him in the time chamber. Goku on the other hand spent almost all his time training Gohan.

He does talk with his family what are you talking about?

BY ACCIDENT

he doesn't care about gohan's studying because he never studied himself so he doesn't see the importance, not because he wants gohan to be bad.

Originally posted by TheBadguy
I forgot about that. It made sense when on Namek and he gave Vegeta one, Vegeta saved his son and friends lives. To give one to Cell..total dick move, Goku can just be really really dumb sometimes.

Well in Gokou's defense...Gohan could have avoided the beating he got if he hadn't tried to talk with Cell and fought.

Though that doesn't excuse Gokou from putting his pacifist son against a warrior.

Exactly.

Gohan is a well known to be nigh-pacisfistic.

Cell is well known to be a cold-blooded killer.

Gohan at that point was not even more powerful than Cell, only when he transformed was he.

Goku even admitted he slacked during training because he was confident Gohan could handle it.

Seriously, 3 people died in that fight, including Goku himself, and the rest were wounded.

All that shit could have been avoided if he trained harder, and if he didn't give Cell a fricky dicky Senzu Bean.

It's probably kind of sad Piccolo knows Gohan better than Gokou. Then again Piccolo has been around Gohan for like five more years than Gokou has.

Gohan was at least even with Cell though. He wasn't exactly hurt until Cell used his superior strength to try and crush him in a bear hug. Cell's blast didn't phase him, and he if I recall he was able to dodge Cell also after Cell powered up stronger than what he was at fighting Gokou.

Three? Who was the third. Gokou, and Trunks but who else died besides Cell.

Originally posted by Kento
It's probably kind of sad Piccolo knows Gohan better than Gokou. Then again Piccolo has been around Gohan for like five more years than Gokou has.

Gohan was at least even with Cell though. He wasn't exactly hurt until Cell used his superior strength to try and crush him in a bear hug. Cell's blast didn't phase him, and he if I recall he was able to dodge Cell also after Cell powered up stronger than what he was at fighting Gokou.

Three? Who was the third. Gokou, and Trunks but who else died besides Cell.

2. True, but Cell was more brutal, and was trying to kill Gohan. That is the prevalent difference between them.

3. Android 16. Cell stomped on his head. 🙁

A cold-hearted villain becomes a better father figure than Gokou. What's up with that?

Oh right the robot. Why didn't Bulma rebuild him?

...He was blown to pieces. 😐

Well if Bulma was such a genius she should have saved his data after fixing him up the first time, and just rebuilt him from that. 16 was cooler than 18 and 17.

I agree, 16 was the penultimate shiznit.

She should have saved his data, yeah.

She didn't.

And I would actually wager Dr. Gero might just be smarter than Bulma.

I would to. But not smarter than Dr. Briefs.

Why not?

Made Androids that could rival or surpass SSJs, some could drain Ki when their reserves were low, the others had infinite power, but because of such they were not easily controlled.

Well didn't Briefs invent all the stuff at capsule corp? Along with upgrading alien technology that was pretty much more advanced than what was on Earth.

Was it him or Bulma that invented the dragon radar?

Originally posted by Kento
A cold-hearted villain becomes a better father figure than Gokou. What's up with that?

And yeah. Poor 16.. but at least he died a true hero, IMO.

Originally posted by Kento
Was it him or Bulma that invented the dragon radar?

Bulma invented the Radar. However i think Dr Briefs is smarter, as he upgrades the Saiyan space pod to be 6 times faster the speed of light (this is based on Bulma's statement that the fastest earth rocket would take 4000 years to get to namek, but the namek ship does it in 3 months and the upgraded Saiyan pod in a week. I assumed that the fastest earth rocket speed was about the speed of Apollo 10, the fastest manned craft)

Originally posted by Kento
Well didn't Briefs invent all the stuff at capsule corp? Along with upgrading alien technology that was pretty much more advanced than what was on Earth.

Was it him or Bulma that invented the dragon radar?

Dr. Gero made beings that are more powerful than SSJs, and made Cell, who can absorb living matter, and with nothing but a simple robot fly, was able to give Cell powers of the different characters, even that of Freeza's power to survive any wound no matter how detrimental.

He thought that Gohan would fight Cell and beat him, but he didn't intend to have Cell win. It was unintentional. And Vegeta NEVER EVEN HUGGED TRUNKS!!!!!!!! Also, he refused to train w/future trunks, whereas Goku did train Gohan the entire time. Vegeta also said once to Future Trunks that Bulma wasn't important to him. Goku may be an idiot, but at least he cares about his children, whereas Vegeta didn't care about anyone until the late buu saga.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
He thought that Gohan would fight Cell and beat him, but he didn't intend to have Cell win. It was unintentional. And Vegeta NEVER EVEN HUGGED TRUNKS!!!!!!!! Also, he refused to train w/future trunks, whereas Goku did train Gohan the entire time. Vegeta also said once to Future Trunks that Bulma wasn't important to him. Goku may be an idiot, but at least he cares about his children, whereas Vegeta didn't care about anyone until the late buu saga.

Originally posted by Kento
Vegeta likes to act like he doesn't care. If he didn't care he wouldn't have went all crazy when Trunks was killed. And also..He probably didn't care about Bulma then. They probably didn't really form a bond until the seven years of peace. Having a kid with somebody doesn't mean you like them. And the reason he never hugged Present Trunks was because of his personality. He's not suppose to care about anything. That's why he wanted Babadi to control him. To stop caring about Bulma and Trunks and to go back to the way he was before then. Besides..Nobody would ever accuse Vegeta of being a good father. Except to maybe Bra.

That's what I'm trying to say... Goku might be bad at "fathering", but that's because of stupidity and never having a true father, not bad intentions.

And at least Goku shows his love, but Vegeta "loves" Trunks but rarely shows it except on a few occasions.