Saying their strength is the same when Sora lacks the muscular build to support that claim. Your intelligence claim was stupid as well. By that logic Reed should be able to beat Hulk in a fight anytime. With gameplay Kratos stomps since he can instantly turn him to stone or use that fleece or whatever it was that blocked any attack and counter it IIRC.
Originally posted by Dark-JaxxWell you think he can't beat a bird, showing that you don't accept the PIS involved when a genie loses.
1. I guess the "omnipotent" Jafar is not as tough as you thought then. 🙂2. Then why bring it up?
I'm not the one who brought up gods, Nemesis did.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix...what? Simba defeated scar in KH and the movie...so wtf with lol. Emotions have nothing to do with character abilities.
Well how did Simba manage to defeat Scar if he is that powerful? Wasn't Hercules depressed about something in that game?Basically movie feats can't be counted for their KH counterparts.
...even though the Disney characters could have been based on nothing else...all of them got their abilities from where they originally appeared, e.g. Maleficent changing into a black dragon. Not that it matters dude...Nemesis' point was Kratos took down big beasts, Sora did the same. That was the point. Arguing whether Disney characters are as strong as their movie counterparts not only is a waste of time, it doesn't have much to do with the point.
Originally posted by Z3PZHK
Well you think he can't beat a bird, showing that you don't accept the PIS involved when a genie loses.I'm not the one who brought up gods, Nemesis did.
...what? Simba defeated scar in KH and the movie...so wtf with lol. Emotions have nothing to do with character abilities.
...even though the Disney characters could have been based on nothing else...all of them got their abilities from where they originally appeared, e.g. Maleficent changing into a black dragon. Not that it matters dude...Nemesis' point was Kratos took down big beasts, Sora did the same. That was the [b]point
. Arguing whether Disney characters are as strong as their movie counterparts not only is a waste of time, it doesn't have much to do with the point. [/B]
Waste of time because they don't get all of their abilities from the movie.
Originally posted by 9K7E7E
I may not be 100% sure myself, but if you can list some examples that would be nice. Either way Nemesis' argument was still made of fail.
Easy in what movie was Mickey able to do magic like that? What about Donald? When did Bambi ever give anyone MP? Shouldn't Bambi have been fully grown by now?
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixEver heard of Fantasia? 😆
Easy in what movie was Mickey able to do magic like that?
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixThe magic aren't his abilities so to speak. They are granted by his wand. He casts magic from his wand, not from his feathers.
What about Donald?
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixBambi shitting out MP (Magic Points) is not only strictly a gameplay ability, the summons are not the real characters themselves. Their hearts are embedded in some kind of stones, which are collected in KH and used as summons. This is why those characters are transparent and glowing.
When did Bambi ever give anyone MP? Shouldn't Bambi have been fully grown by now?
Originally posted by TK9BM4
Ever heard of Fantasia? 😆The magic aren't his abilities so to speak. They are granted by his wand. He casts magic from his wand, not from his feathers.
Bambi shitting out MP (Magic Points) is not only strictly a gameplay ability, the summons are not the real characters themselves. Their hearts are embedded in some kind of stones, which are collected in KH and used as summons. This is why those characters are transparent and glowing.
Fantasia had him bringing inantimate objects to life and that is all except for the water and that was with a book. Still doesn't explain Donald either where did he learn magic from?
Originally posted by Z3PZHK1. IIRC, he failed to kill a bird, a weak genie, a carpet riding 17 year old boy, and was also too slow to take out Alladin. And in KH, all his "PHENOMENOL COSMIC POWA!!!" meant shit, he was beaten by Sora.
Well you think he can't beat a bird, showing that you don't accept the PIS involved when a genie loses.I'm not the one who brought up gods, Nemesis did.
...what? Simba defeated scar in KH and the movie...so wtf with lol. Emotions have nothing to do with character abilities.
...even though the Disney characters could have been based on nothing else...all of them got their abilities from where they originally appeared, e.g. Maleficent changing into a black dragon. Not that it matters dude...Nemesis' point was Kratos took down big beasts, Sora did the same. That was the [b]point
. Arguing whether Disney characters are as strong as their movie counterparts not only is a waste of time, it doesn't have much to do with the point. [/B]
2. Simba defeated Scar yeah, but I don't remember Scar using energy blasts or anything of the sort like he did in KM. And Hercules got pwned by Auron. Actually got overpowered. Lol.
3. The Final Fantasy characters are based on the FF characters, yet the differences are apparent. It does matter, considering by feats, alot of them are weaker or stronger. Also, what "giant beasts" has Sora been canonically proven to fight? Not the Titans, they are optional.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Strength: How in the hell you equalized a feat of a guy resisting a world lifter and throwing a skyscraper is beyond me, I mean honestly, the difference in weight is HUGE. And even though he only wrestled with two of Atlas' fingers(who was trying to crush him, saying he wasn't is stupid), .5% of Atlas' above world lifting strength(he doesn't need to use all arms to lift the world, AND he has been doing it for thousands of years) is>>>>>Throwing a skyscraper.Speed: And...How fast were those "lasers." They were not even lasers, they were balls of light, i.e. NOT LIGHTSPEED. Kratos deflects ACTUAL lightning, from the God of the respective element. And Sora has never teleported in canon. Only when doing some homosexual reaction command. In the cutscenes, Sora is not that fast, just watch his fight with Roxas.
Intelligence: Shit logic. I guess that means random joe smoe would have superior tactics in a battle against Alexander the Great or Genghis Kong because of the different time periods? Kratos is a war commander with real battle experience and won battles despite being outnumbered, he takes the only kind of intelligence that is relevant to battle.
Gameplay: Crap to use, but circle, Triangle, Kratos wins.
Durability: Thought I would add this, Kratos easy, sent flying over a mile through several feet of concrete ceiling, and then had a threesome. That's 1337.
Feats: And Kratos' are better.
K. Now show me a single time in CANON.
Not in the game he didn't.
Strength: Kratos didn't beat Atlas in the stuggle, he just held him off. And Atlas was toying with Kratos (a little) and was only using a few fingers.
Speed: Kratos withstood lightning, he didn't dodge it.
Intelligence: Yes, okay I stand corrected.
Gameplay: Sora's reaction command are way more numerous and are automatic.
Duability: you're right
Feats: no, they're not
And I specified that GAMEPLAY FEATS ARE ALLOWED IN THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixMost likely Yensid. Not that it matters..I just explained to you the movie versions are no better than the game versions, and that wasn't the initial point anyway. My point was Sora fought huge things/Nemesis' argument was crap. Stop bringing this up all the time. srsly
Fantasia had him bringing inantimate objects to life and that is all except for the water and that was with a book. Still doesn't explain Donald either where did he learn magic from?
Originally posted by Dark-JaxxI could also whine about Galactus losing to weaklings. Pretty pointless don't you think.
1. IIRC, he failed to kill a bird, a weak genie, a carpet riding 17 year old boy, and was also too slow to take out Alladin. And in KH, all his "PHENOMENOL COSMIC POWA!!!" meant shit, he was beaten by Sora.
Originally posted by Dark-JaxxScar was granted dark powers from Pete, he wasn't doing it on his own.
2. Simba defeated Scar yeah, but I don't remember Scar using energy blasts or anything of the sort like he did in KM. And Hercules got pwned by Auron. Actually got overpowered. Lol.
..you do know Hercules has two forms? One where he's a normal human and one where he's a god? Auron fought human Herc. After when he saves Meg is when he's god material. The difference in appearance should be enough evidence.
Originally posted by Dark-JaxxWhere did I mention FF characters in my post? Sora fought too many for me to say them, lol. Off the top of my head he fought the Dragon in Mulan, several colossus heartless, Hydra, and Chernabog, who btw pretty much pwns the titans.
3. The Final Fantasy characters are based on the FF characters, yet the differences are apparent. It does matter, considering by feats, alot of them are weaker or stronger. Also, what "giant beasts" has Sora been canonically proven to fight? Not the Titans, they are optional.
Originally posted by X2EBBW1. Donald had never met Yensid. And I guess that in Disney Goofy is really a knight who fights with a shield? The differences are apparent.
Most likely Yensid. Not that it matters..I just explained to you the movie versions are no better than the game versions, and that wasn't the initial point anyway. My point was Sora fought huge things/Nemesis' argument was crap. Stop bringing this up all the time. srslyI could also whine about Galactus losing to weaklings. Pretty pointless don't you think.
Scar was granted dark powers from Pete, he wasn't doing it on his own.
..you do know Hercules has two forms? One where he's a normal human and one where he's a god? Auron fought human Herc. After when he saves Meg is when he's god material. The difference in appearance should be enough evidence.
Where did I mention FF characters in my post? Sora fought too many for me to say them, lol. Off the top of my head he fought the Dragon in Mulan, several colossus heartless, Hydra, and Chernabog, who btw pretty much pwns the titans.
2. Humor me and name some weaklings Galactus has lost to in a straight up fight. 🙂 Galactus' power also fluctuates depending on hunger, Jafar has no such excuse.
3. Dur. But point is, he could not do so in the movie. Also, Jafar in the movie could only be killed by destroying his lamp, in the game, bashing his face kills him. Lol.
Incorrect. All his God form does is makes him unable to die, the strength is the same.
4. The similarity is there, if the FF characters are not the same in terms of power in the game, why would the Disney characters? Wanna know the similarity between all the things you named? All have no feats! 😱 And Chernabog would get stepped on by Atlas, and would be ANNIHILATED by Zeus with the Blade of Olympus.