Sora vs Kratos

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Strength: Kratos didn't beat Atlas in the stuggle, he just held him off. And Atlas was toying with Kratos (a little) and was only using a few fingers.

Speed: Kratos withstood lightning, he didn't dodge it.

Intelligence: Yes, okay I stand corrected.

Gameplay: Sora's reaction command are way more numerous and are automatic.

Duability: you're right

Feats: no, they're not

And I specified that GAMEPLAY FEATS ARE ALLOWED IN THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!

Speed: He blocked and was deflecting it.

Gameplay: And Medusa's Flash is instant. Turn to stone, shatter ftw.

Feats: Yeah, they really are.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Strength: Tie. Sora can throw skyscrapers (he DID when in that vacuum place) and Kratos temporarily wrestled w/Atlas, who could lift up the earth.

Speed/reflexes: Sora, he can block lasers and teleport.

Brutality: ...you guess

Intelligence: Sora easily, Kratos is from ancient times and therefore probably thinks the world is flat.

Magic: Kratos, Sora's magic is unoriginal and not as powerful as "turning to stone" powers.

Gameplay button presses: Sora, because you can do it automaticlly and you don't have to press the button very hard/fast.

Feats: Both have their own super feats.

And yes, Sora DID fight, and beat Hercules:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUooYmw5WEc

and Hercules was shown to throw a TITAN without much effort.

2.Kratos can block lighting. which is equal to sora or better. but ill leave this at a tie. in normal speed, i give it to sora.

3. you betcha.

4. "probably" is the key word in that sentence. you assuming that he was stupid. im pretty sure to control an entire army you have to be highly intelligent, and to get passed pandoras temple you have to be smart. kratos definitely.

5. 🙂

6. *cough* rips him in half *cough* kratos.

7. kratos can hurl a giant collosus a mile that stomped his whole foot on him with ease.

And dont get me started about all the monsters kratos has killed/beaten.
kratos wins this fight by far.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Donald had never met Yensid. And I guess that in Disney Goofy is really a knight who fights with a shield? The differences are apparent.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
2. Humor me and name some weaklings Galactus has lost to in a straight up fight. 🙂 Galactus' power also fluctuates depending on hunger, Jafar has no such excuse.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
3. Dur. But point is, he could not do so in the movie. Also, Jafar in the movie could only be killed by destroying his lamp, in the game, bashing his face kills him. Lol.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Incorrect. All his God form does is makes him unable to die, the strength is the same.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
4. The similarity is there, if the FF characters are not the same in terms of power in the game, why would the Disney characters?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Wanna know the similarity between all the things you named? All have no feats! 😱 And Chernabog would get stepped on by Atlas, and would be ANNIHILATED by Zeus with the Blade of Olympus.

Also..what are feats to you? Just some things shown in cutscenes? I agree, it's very logical to leave out anything we see in gameplay footage, especially when the abilities are genuine and make perfect sense. Finally, you seem very eager to discuss random disney characters versus GoW gods...have you read the thread title yet? 😕

And I know I asked for elaboration on the following.

Originally posted by k1Lla441
6. *cough* rips him in half *cough* kratos.

One last thing, I am not saying Sora wins the fight. It's just the unexpected Kratos wank that...bothers...

Originally posted by 2D6ZPN
Maybe in looks, but not in terms of what they can do. Either way the movie versions are in no way better.

Yes, in a straight up fight, which Jafar has never lost in srsly. Galactus losing because of hunger is PIS, Jafar losing because of cockiness is CIS. That's the point dude.

I don't remember seeing Jafar dying. He mentions he was defeated. Not the same as dying at any rate, not that it has much to do with my initial point, or the topic for that matter.

Yeah...I guess that's why his blows are stronger when his aura's around him, and that probably explains the invulnerability...makes a lot of sense. 😂

Because the game is based way more on the Disney characters than the FF ones. In fact, 90% of the worlds are Disney worlds, also the fact the Disney characters weren't altered whereas the FF ones were.

So...I guess this means they did nothing in the original media they came from. They just posed. "Hey look at me! I'm the big Rock Titan who can't do shit! Look at me pose!" 😆

Also..what are feats to you? Just some things shown in cutscenes? I agree, it's very logical to leave out anything we see in gameplay footage, especially when the abilities are genuine and make perfect sense. Finally, you seem very eager to discuss random disney characters versus GoW gods...have you read the thread title yet? 😕

And I know I asked for elaboration on the following.Kratos then must be close to or at bullet speed if he can do this. That is, if Sora has no defensive moves, which he has several of anyway. That's not even including the various forms he has. Love the bias all. Keep it up. 😉

One last thing, I am not saying Sora wins the fight. It's just the unexpected Kratos wank that...bothers...

Jafar did die. The only way to destroy a genie is to destroy their lamp and Kratos doesn't have to close to Sora to turn him into stone.

Died in the movie I know, but I was talking in terms of KH's plot, in which case he didn't.

So now we get to use GoW gameplay and not KH...another double standard. Sora stops time and moons him. See what I did there?

Originally posted by HAPGMB
Died in the movie I know, but I was talking in terms of KH's plot, in which case he didn't.

So now we get to use GoW gameplay and not KH...another double standard. Sora stops time and moons him. See what I did there?

No double standards. Earlier on we said that it wasn't fair for Sora to have GP feats and Kratos couldn't so OP gave Kratos his too and Kratos can also control time.

Originally posted by k1Lla441
1. So your telling me throwing a sky scraper is equal to holding atlas' hand from crushing him? Atlas holds the ENTIRE crust up which is > throwing a skyscaper by far. kratos easily.

2.Kratos can block lighting. which is equal to sora or better. but ill leave this at a tie. in normal speed, i give it to sora.

3. you betcha.

4. "probably" is the key word in that sentence. you assuming that he was stupid. im pretty sure to control an entire army you have to be highly intelligent, and to get passed pandoras temple you have to be smart. kratos definitely.

5. 🙂

6. *cough* rips him in half *cough* kratos.

7. kratos can hurl a giant collosus a mile that stomped his whole foot on him with ease.

And dont get me started about all the monsters kratos has killed/beaten.
kratos wins this fight by far.

1. Okay, Kratos is stronger. If they were to have an arm wrestle, Kratos would win but not by a lot. "not by a lot" because Atlas was using 2 fingers and Kratos only resisted with a lot of struggling for a short while. Atlas was also probably toying w/him.

2. Did he block, dodge or just resist lightning?

3. yeah

4. right, I admitted I was wrong before in another post

5. 😄 you seem to agree with me on everything that says Kratos is better on 🙄

6. What are you saying? Sora's reaction commands are way more numerous and easier to pull off because they require just one simple button press.

7. Sora can beat a god (Hades) without that much help (Donald and Goofy never helped me that much).

I'd say tie or Sora by a bit

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
1. Okay, Kratos is stronger. If they were to have an arm wrestle, Kratos would win but not by a lot. "not by a lot" because Atlas was using 2 fingers and Kratos only resisted with a lot of struggling for a short while. Atlas was also probably toying w/him.

2. Did he block, dodge or just resist lightning?

3. yeah

4. right, I admitted I was wrong before in another post

5. 😄 you seem to agree with me on everything that says Kratos is better on 🙄

6. What are you saying? Sora's reaction commands are way more numerous and easier to pull off because they require just one simple button press.

7. Sora can beat a god (Hades) without that much help (Donald and Goofy never helped me that much).

I'd say tie or Sora by a bit

Kratos barely wins an arm wrestling fight Sora? How the hell did you come up with that?

Disney Hades has nothing on any God from GOW. What feats does Disney Hades have?

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
1. Okay, Kratos is stronger. If they were to have an arm wrestle, Kratos would win but not by a lot. "not by a lot" because Atlas was using 2 fingers and Kratos only resisted with a lot of struggling for a short while. Atlas was also probably toying w/him.

2. Did he block, dodge or just resist lightning?

3. yeah

4. right, I admitted I was wrong before in another post

5. 😄 you seem to agree with me on everything that says Kratos is better on 🙄

6. What are you saying? Sora's reaction commands are way more numerous and easier to pull off because they require just one simple button press.

7. Sora can beat a god (Hades) without that much help (Donald and Goofy never helped me that much).

I'd say tie or Sora by a bit

1. He would win by a lot.....Sora has no strength feats to compare with tossing the Colossus of rhodes

2. You can block it, but from memory, this was in-game

6. one tap of "O" and Sora would be ripped in half, you cannot get much more "simple" than one tap of a button...

7. Hades as a God is basically featless....and by your final comments your talking about gameplay which is irrelvent.

Kratos could defeat his so many ways, its Kratos by a lot.

6. The one hit kill only works on small feeble enemies such as undead dudes with swords. Bosses and harder enemies require them to be weakened and then to tap O really fast or do a bunch of different button presses. And I think it is 100% reasonable to think Kratos wins this, but to think that Sora is weaker than those undead dudes? That's just pure bias.

BTW, this is Kratos at the end of GoW before getting pandora's box, so GoW 2 feats do not count.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
6. The one hit kill only works on small feeble enemies such as undead dudes with swords. Bosses and harder enemies require them to be weakened and then to tap O really fast or do a bunch of different button presses. And I think it is 100% reasonable to think Kratos wins this, but to think that Sora is weaker than those undead dudes? That's just pure bias.

BTW, this is Kratos at the end of GoW before getting pandora's box, so GoW 2 feats do not count.

Oh God why are you weakening Kratos so much but giving Sora so much stuff? Kratos still turns him to stone.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Oh God why are you weakening Kratos so much but giving Sora so much stuff? Kratos still turns him to stone.

I said that several posts ago. You should read the former posts.

The turn to stone is temparary and doesn't work on bosses I don't think (or does it). And what about Sora's time stop move?

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
6. The one hit kill only works on small feeble enemies such as undead dudes with swords. Bosses and harder enemies require them to be weakened and then to tap O really fast or do a bunch of different button presses. And I think it is 100% reasonable to think Kratos wins this, but to think that Sora is weaker than those undead dudes? That's just pure bias.

BTW, this is Kratos at the end of GoW before getting pandora's box, so GoW 2 feats do not count.

undead dudes? no, but hes the same size if not smaller combined with the fact he is far weaker than Kratos anyway, its not unreasonable to think he would suffer the same fate.

And they do count because throughout most of GOW 2 he is the same Kratos as in the first...although to be fair, the moment when he tosses the colossus he is small, but has some God power in him still so it does not count.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
I said that several posts ago. You should read the former posts.

The turn to stone is temparary and doesn't work on bosses I don't think (or does it). And what about Sora's time stop move?

TBH if you have to dwarf one combatant to give the other one a "Chance" then you should already know who the real winner is. Anyway Kratos was the GOW at the end GOW so he is I guess more powerful than his GOW2 version.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
TBH if you have to dwarf one combatant to give the other one a "Chance" then you should already know who the real winner is. Anyway Kratos was the GOW at the end GOW so he is I guess more powerful than his GOW2 version.

I said BEFORE GETTING PANDORA'S BOX

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
6. The one hit kill only works on small feeble enemies such as undead dudes with swords. Bosses and harder enemies require them to be weakened and then to tap O really fast or do a bunch of different button presses. And I think it is 100% reasonable to think Kratos wins this, but to think that Sora is weaker than those undead dudes? That's just pure bias.

BTW, this is Kratos at the end of GoW before getting pandora's box, so GoW 2 feats do not count.

And when he was GoW that was AFTER pandora's box.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
I said BEFORE GETTING PANDORA'S BOX

And when he was GoW that was AFTER pandora's box.

In the end Kratos is the still the winner since you have to dwarf him so much. This thread is just a huge mess. TBH its things like this that makes you seem like a troll, that plus your name has no spaces and its hard to read and the fact that you made a sock account when you got suspended.

Kratos turns him to stone instantly for the win.

Originally posted by 2D6ZPN
Maybe in looks, but not in terms of what they can do. Either way the movie versions are in no way better.

Yes, in a straight up fight, which Jafar has never lost in srsly. Galactus losing because of hunger is PIS, Jafar losing because of cockiness is CIS. That's the point dude.

I don't remember seeing Jafar dying. He mentions he was defeated. Not the same as dying at any rate, not that it has much to do with my initial point, or the topic for that matter.

Yeah...I guess that's why his blows are stronger when his aura's around him, and that probably explains the invulnerability...makes a lot of sense. 😂

Because the game is based way more on the Disney characters than the FF ones. In fact, 90% of the worlds are Disney worlds, also the fact the Disney characters weren't altered whereas the FF ones were.

So...I guess this means they did nothing in the original media they came from. They just posed. "Hey look at me! I'm the big Rock Titan who can't do shit! Look at me pose!" 😆

Also..what are feats to you? Just some things shown in cutscenes? I agree, it's very logical to leave out anything we see in gameplay footage, especially when the abilities are genuine and make perfect sense. Finally, you seem very eager to discuss random disney characters versus GoW gods...have you read the thread title yet? 😕

And I know I asked for elaboration on the following.Kratos then must be close to or at bullet speed if he can do this. That is, if Sora has no defensive moves, which he has several of anyway. That's not even including the various forms he has. Love the bias all. Keep it up. 😉

One last thing, I am not saying Sora wins the fight. It's just the unexpected Kratos wank that...bothers...

2. O RLY? He was killed when he in turn was trying to kill them. He failed. Galactus' power is not constant, Jafar's is, and then there is the fact that Galactus has many different writers portraying him, and the fact that it takes more, and more powerful characters to so much as stand up to Galactus. Jafar was beaten by...A. A teenage boy and girl B. A weak genie C. A flying rug and D. A bird. If the movie and game versions are the same...I guess that means Jafar cannot be omnipotent, what-with being killed by Sora.

3. ...He was killed in KH2, he blew up. 😐 And the point is, Sora has not fought these super 1337 opponents you claim he has.

4. Being immortal makes him invulnerable, and he didn't get any stronger in the movies, obviously, that is a game only detail. 🙂

5. Weren't altered? Donald can use magic, Goofy is a knight, Jafar can be killed without destroying the lamp, Oogie Boogie isn't a pussy, and Pete apparently has magic powers. Yeah, they aren't altered at all. 🙄

6. The Rock Titan in the movie did nothing more than throw a rock...In the game I don't even think he did that. Zeus has a sword that can nuke huge landscapes and kill an army of Titans. 😐

7. You stated that they could beat him. I disagreed. What genuine abilities?

8. Kratos blocked and deflected lightning.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
1. Okay, Kratos is stronger. If they were to have an arm wrestle, Kratos would win but not by a lot. "not by a lot" because Atlas was using 2 fingers and Kratos only resisted with a lot of struggling for a short while. Atlas was also probably toying w/him.

2. Did he block, dodge or just resist lightning?

3. yeah

4. right, I admitted I was wrong before in another post

5. 😄 you seem to agree with me on everything that says Kratos is better on 🙄

6. What are you saying? Sora's reaction commands are way more numerous and easier to pull off because they require just one simple button press.

7. Sora can beat a god (Hades) without that much help (Donald and Goofy never helped me that much).

I'd say tie or Sora by a bit

2. He deflected it, and this "gameplay" transferred into a cut-scene, so it definately counts.

3. And Sora only gets...What? One Reaction command per enemy? And Kratos' attacks require one button to immobilize Sora, and another to execute him.

4. Lul wut? When Sora and friends first fought Hades, they couldn't do SHIT to him until Hercules went all immortal, not to mention Hades both in the game and in the series is virtually featless as far as power goes.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. So Donald is a powerful wizard and Goofy is a formidable knight? I guess Simba in the movies could have killed a giant building sized Hollow too. 🙄

2. O RLY? He was killed when he in turn was trying to kill them. He failed. Galactus' power is not constant, Jafar's is, and then there is the fact that Galactus has many different writers portraying him, and the fact that it takes more, and more powerful characters to so much as stand up to Galactus. Jafar was beaten by...A. A teenage boy and girl B. A weak genie C. A flying rug and D. A bird. If the movie and game versions are the same...I guess that means Jafar cannot be omnipotent, what-with being killed by Sora.

3. ...He was killed in KH2, he blew up. 😐 And the point is, Sora has not fought these super 1337 opponents you claim he has.

4. Being immortal makes him invulnerable, and he didn't get any stronger in the movies, obviously, that is a game only detail. 🙂

5. Weren't altered? Donald can use magic, Goofy is a knight, Jafar can be killed without destroying the lamp, Oogie Boogie isn't a pussy, and Pete apparently has magic powers. Yeah, they aren't altered at all. 🙄

6. The Rock Titan in the movie did nothing more than throw a rock...In the game I don't even think he did that. Zeus has a sword that can nuke huge landscapes and kill an army of Titans. 😐

7. You stated that they could beat him. I disagreed. What genuine abilities?

8. Kratos blocked and deflected lightning.

2. So you're repeating this bs. Watch that part in the game and re-watch Return of Jafar plz. I would know more about this than you.

3. Blew up? 🤨 So is glowing and having some kind of seizure blowing up?

4. Again, I'm saying there's no evidence the movie versions are stronger (and there is non3). Why do you think, Square would make them weaker?

5. ...Goofy wearing armor and Donald having a wand is making no alterations. You aren't using your brain to much, Jaxx. Pete is given these powers by maleficent, so they aren't inherently his. The fact they are in different plots show how they obtain powers and such, but they are inherently the same. I'm talking physically and mentally here. They are based COMPLETELY on what you see in the movies. Square did not alter them.

6. That's not my point. They are capable of destroying villages and such things. They tower over anything on the land. And at any rate, I'm not comparing KH Greeks with GoW characters <-- UNDERSTAND that please.

7. Bull. Nowhere did I talk KH characters versus Kratos, and the abilities such as..Ice Titan freezing the ground and arena are things he can do regardless if it's gameplay. He also did it in the movie <-- abilities like that I'm talking about.

8. Great. He wins, and isn't ripping Sora in half at any rate, because the latter is fan wank.

Originally posted by CDHHHX

4. Again, I'm saying there's no evidence the movie versions are stronger (and there is non3). Why do you think, Square would make them weaker?

For the same reason why Superman and friends are weaker in the DC VS MK game.