actually its canon that base form freeza could destroy a planet with a finger:
http://desirecampbell.com/project/dbzsidestories/2/
heres the dragonball side story published in shonen jump meaning its canon.
actually its canon that base form freeza could destroy a planet with a finger:
http://desirecampbell.com/project/dbzsidestories/2/
heres the dragonball side story published in shonen jump meaning its canon.
Originally posted by jimBOFH
It only took Vegeta and Nappa one year to cross the galaxy, with a couple of stopovers. So Buu could probably destroy most of the galaxy in 10-20 years.Secondly, Paragus isn't lying, because they go to the "new Planet Vegeta". Thirdly, the level of destruction on the planet Goku teleports to is not what you'd expect from any attack that could destroy an entire galaxy- because it's an area attack, not a single focused beam, it would have to be powerful enough to destroy everything in its path, not just topple buildings and kill people, otherwise it wouldn't be able to go past the first planet it encountered in any direction.
buu wasn't around that long before he fought the Kai's and was stopped. As for Vegeta and Nappa they crossed the galaxy in a straight shot to earth, Broly would have to stop at every planet and blow it individually which would take a ridiculous amount of time, they would have found him long before he accomplished that. Paragus is lying, they went to the planet so he could trick vegeta and crew into being hit by the coment while they wasted time looking for the ssj. The kai's say he blew most of the south quad not all of it, if he's blowing planets on a scale like that then shockwaves alone would be enough too do damage like that too a planet that might have been on the farthest reaches from where he was.
Originally posted by yungz22
exactly look how far planets are away from each other do you know how long it would take for a ki blast from earth to reach to mars? Im pretty sure it would die out
Goku's kameha sent Broly and Cooler to the moon in seconds
Originally posted by TheBadguy
buu wasn't around that long before he fought the Kai's and was stopped. As for Vegeta and Nappa they crossed the galaxy in a straight shot to earth, Broly would have to stop at every planet and blow it individually which would take a ridiculous amount of time, they would have found him long before he accomplished that. Paragus is lying, they went to the planet so he could trick vegeta and crew into being hit by the coment while they wasted time looking for the ssj. The kai's say he blew most of the south quad not all of it, if he's blowing planets on a scale like that then shockwaves alone would be enough too do damage like that too a planet that might have been on the farthest reaches from where he was.Goku's kameha sent Broly and Cooler to the moon in seconds
Buu wasn't killed, or stopped, when he attacked the Kais. East Kai barely escaped with his life, and had to wait until he got a chance to kill Bibidi while Buu was still contained. It's not clear how long Buu had to destroy the planets. And each planet would only take Buu seconds, then it's on to the next- it's plausible that he did it planet by planet/star by star.
Secondly, there are no shockwaves in space. That level of destruction is too high for collateral from another planets destruction, but too low for a galaxy destroying ki blast, or an exploding star. Furthermore, Goku teleports to where Broly was- it's highly likely that he was directly responsible for the carnage, but he obviously didn't blow the planet, or not with enough power to destroy it instantly.
There's just not enough evidence to support the theory that Broly one-shotted the entire, or a large part of, the south galaxy. A solar system, entirely possibly. A galaxy seems highly unlikely.
Consider that the power necessary to destroy a planet is somewhere between 5000 and 18, 000 (Nappa can't, but Vegeta can, at the beginning of DBZ). That's the power necessary to destroy a planet at zero range- on a planetary scale, the power is essentially a point- all of it hits the planet core. The volume of a sphere is given by 4/3(Pi) times the radius cubed. Say that Vegeta's attack which destroys Arlia has a radius of 10000 km (The earth's radius is about 6500km). To destroy every planet in the solar system directly would require an attack of the same intensity, but a radius of 7 billion km. That's going to require about 10 quintillion power, (1 followed by 19 zeroes) for one solar system. (if it took 10000 power to destroy Arlia).
Originally posted by jimBOFH
Buu wasn't killed, or stopped, when he attacked the Kais. East Kai barely escaped with his life, and had to wait until he got a chance to kill Bibidi while Buu was still contained. It's not clear how long Buu had to destroy the planets. And each planet would only take Buu seconds, then it's on to the next- it's plausible that he did it planet by planet/star by star.
Secondly, there are no shockwaves in space. That level of destruction is too high for collateral from another planets destruction, but too low for a galaxy destroying ki blast, or an exploding star. Furthermore, Goku teleports to where Broly was- it's highly likely that he was directly responsible for the carnage, but he obviously didn't blow the planet, or not with enough power to destroy it instantly.
There's just not enough evidence to support the theory that Broly one-shotted the entire, or a large part of, the south galaxy. A solar system, entirely possibly. A galaxy seems highly unlikely.
Consider that the power necessary to destroy a planet is somewhere between 5000 and 18, 000 (Nappa can't, but Vegeta can, at the beginning of DBZ). That's the power necessary to destroy a planet at zero range- on a planetary scale, the power is essentially a point- all of it hits the planet core. The volume of a sphere is given by 4/3(Pi) times the radius cubed. Say that Vegeta's attack which destroys Arlia has a radius of 10000 km (The earth's radius is about 6500km). To destroy every planet in the solar system directly would require an attack of the same intensity, but a radius of 7 billion km. That's going to require about 10 quintillion power, (1 followed by 19 zeroes) for one solar system. (if it took 10000 power to destroy Arlia).
The thing is strength/speed/etc don't rise porportionally to their power level. Think about it:
It takes a pl of about 500 to blow up a planet.
That farmer had a pl of 5.
Do the math, and you'll see that the farmer would be MUCH stronger than a farmer...... capable of destroying everest.
Broly can destroy a galaxy.
If a planet buster has a pl of 500, then a star buster has a pl of about 500,000,000.
Our galaxy contains billions of stars.
Think about how high Broly's pl would need to be.
Originally posted by jimBOFH
Buu wasn't killed, or stopped, when he attacked the Kais. East Kai barely escaped with his life, and had to wait until he got a chance to kill Bibidi while Buu was still contained. It's not clear how long Buu had to destroy the planets. And each planet would only take Buu seconds, then it's on to the next- it's plausible that he did it planet by planet/star by star.
Secondly, there are no shockwaves in space. That level of destruction is too high for collateral from another planets destruction, but too low for a galaxy destroying ki blast, or an exploding star. Furthermore, Goku teleports to where Broly was- it's highly likely that he was directly responsible for the carnage, but he obviously didn't blow the planet, or not with enough power to destroy it instantly.
There's just not enough evidence to support the theory that Broly one-shotted the entire, or a large part of, the south galaxy. A solar system, entirely possibly. A galaxy seems highly unlikely.
Consider that the power necessary to destroy a planet is somewhere between 5000 and 18, 000 (Nappa can't, but Vegeta can, at the beginning of DBZ). That's the power necessary to destroy a planet at zero range- on a planetary scale, the power is essentially a point- all of it hits the planet core. The volume of a sphere is given by 4/3(Pi) times the radius cubed. Say that Vegeta's attack which destroys Arlia has a radius of 10000 km (The earth's radius is about 6500km). To destroy every planet in the solar system directly would require an attack of the same intensity, but a radius of 7 billion km. That's going to require about 10 quintillion power, (1 followed by 19 zeroes) for one solar system. (if it took 10000 power to destroy Arlia).
He was stopped by Bibidi, shortly after fighting with the Kai's, his rampage through the universe was before he went to fight the Kai's, and east Kai says it didn't last long. Regardless all of this is irrelevant we see the galaxy go up radiating with energy through the whole thing simultaneously, it went up at the sametime, theres no getting around this.
Secondly this is dbz not astrophysics. Toriyama didn't think things through that detailed, which is why he just stopped mentioning specific power levels all together. There are shockwaves in space just like they talk in space, like IT goes multiples times light speed, just like a talking wolf is king of the earth. When Goku sees the damage to that planet he even says he can't believe how strong Broly's trail of energy is.
Except im not arguing a theory, im going by what is shown in the movie. Yours is the theory, we are given no reason to think it was planet by planet. In the actual movie we see King Kai reacting while the galaxy is blown up, and we see he is worried his galaxy is going to be blown next, we see King Kai go on about needing Goku immediately saying to Goku he could come destroy the North Galaxy next. They aren't waiting around for years for Broly to go planet to planet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vaj4hUU4C34
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
The thing is strength/speed/etc don't rise porportionally to their power level. Think about it:It takes a pl of about 500 to blow up a planet.
That farmer had a pl of 5.Do the math, and you'll see that the farmer would be MUCH stronger than a farmer...... capable of destroying everest.
Broly can destroy a galaxy.
If a planet buster has a pl of 500, then a star buster has a pl of about 500,000,000.Our galaxy contains billions of stars.
Think about how high Broly's pl would need to be.
Where does it say that 500 is enough power to destroy a planet? Vegeta is the first character shown to destroy a planet, and his power level is 18, 000. Raditz has a power level of 1200, and doesn't appear to be capable of destroying Earth.
Originally posted by TheBadguy
He was stopped by Bibidi, shortly after fighting with the Kai's, his rampage through the universe was before he went to fight the Kai's, and east Kai says it didn't last long. Regardless all of this is irrelevant we see the galaxy go up radiating with energy through the whole thing simultaneously, it went up at the sametime, theres no getting around this.Secondly this is dbz not astrophysics. Toriyama didn't think things through that detailed, which is why he just stopped mentioning specific power levels all together. There are shockwaves in space just like they talk in space, like IT goes multiples times light speed, just like a talking wolf is king of the earth. When Goku sees the damage to that planet he even says he can't believe how strong Broly's trail of energy is.
Except im not arguing a theory, im going by what is shown in the movie. Yours is the theory, we are given no reason to think it was planet by planet. In the actual movie we see King Kai reacting while the galaxy is blown up, and we see he is worried his galaxy is going to be blown next, we see King Kai go on about needing Goku immediately saying to Goku he could come destroy the North Galaxy next. They aren't waiting around for years for Broly to go planet to planet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vaj4hUU4C34
I don't think that what's shown in the movie is explicit enough to say that Broly actually one-shotted the galaxy. I personally don't think it's supposed to be a literal picture of what's happening to the galaxy, but even if it were- a one shot would be a single ki blast emanating from one point. What you see is sectors of the galaxy going dark, faster and faster- it doesn't appear to expanding from one point. So, even if you take it literally- which is reasonable enough - I don't see how it can be a one-shot. It seems more likely Broly started shooting stars all across the galaxy, which would a) take much less power, making it plausible that Goku could beat someone like Broly, and b) not require him to actually travel across the galaxy. Kinda like Buu's "Human Extinction Attack", only destroying stars instead.