Post-Timeskip Shikamaru vs. Post-TS Sasuke

With a twist. Shikamaru is in the forest of death and he knows that Sasuke is looking for him, to kill him. He has twenty minutes to prepare for Sasuke's arrival. Shikamaru for the intents of this fight also knows about Sasuke's powers. Sasuke does not know that Shikamaru is knows he is coming. Can Shikamaru beat him with 20 minutes of prep and knowledge of his abilities?

Equipment-

Shikamaru has 2 flashbangs, kunai, shuriken, and 20 exploding tags.

Sasuke has the use of his sword and can use all of the abilities that he has shown the ability to use in the manga so far, which means no Susanoo.

As already mentioned, the fight takes place in the forest of death.

Sasuke walks right into a trap that consist of the flashbangs blinding him while also serving the purpose of Shikamaru using shadow bind on him as exploding tags blow up collapsing trees onto Sasuke since he's unable to move.

Shikamaru.

Shikamaru has always been able to get the better of his foes using his vast strategic abilities. Throughout the story, he is forced to come up with a strategy while in the middle of a battle, while having to figure out his opponents abilities, including an immortal Akatsuki member.

This match however, Shikamaru has preparation time, as well as full knowledge on the abilities of his opponent. Not to mention he has the element of surprise, and knowledge of the terrain. I have full confidence that Shikamaru would be able to outsmart Sasuke in this fight, whether by tricking him, or trapping him.

Sasuke wins, Sasuke is quite smart himself.

Shika is really smart, but hes not out of this world smart.

His most impressive feat was outsmarting Hidan, and in my opinion, Hidan is quite unintelligent, Shikamaru also had all the time he wanted to prep, and still that was pretty close, Shikamaru didn't like curbstomp him with prep.

Everyone Shikamaru outsmarts aren't quite intelligent imo,
He still lost to Tayuya
And he lost to Temari

He needs to have a teammate or some kind of aid, like Kakashi giving him blood, or Temari coming to save him from Tayuya.

Sasuke is on a whole diferent level then these guys that Shikamaru outsmarted, not only is Sasuke a genius himself, he has Mangekyou Sharingan, and a ton of abilities and tricks up his sleeve, Sasuke will finish Shikamaru.

Actually Temari herself was stated to be a genius who can think ten steps ahead of her opponent if I recall. Though I could be wrong. And Shikamaru was extremely weak compared to any of his team and Sasuke and still managed to hold off Tayuya without getting hurt while the rest were near death by the end.

And he had to think of everything on the fly. He knows Sasuke is coming, he has time to prep, he isn't fighting an immortal, and Sasuke doesn't know about anything. Shikamaru has a good shot at winning. Not in a straight up fight. He'd been beaten if Sasuke was placed against him randomly like Temari or Tayuya was but he's not.

Yes but seriously, Tayuya and Temari are not even a fraction as dangerous as Sasuke is, nor do they have Sharingan which can predict movements, or mangekyou which can kill Shikamaru basically instantly on sight, or any other of Sasukes lightning abilities or jutsus, nor are they as smart as Sasuke, but yet Shikamaru still lost.

Now put Shikamaru against an actually more dangerous opponent, Hidan, who isn't as smart as Sasuke, doesn't have prediction abilities, or the other versatile abilities that Sasuke has, and give Shikamaru basically unlimited prep time to make that entire trap thing (which he doesn't i this fight), and STILL it was pretty close, infact if Kakashi didn't give Shikamaru the capsule Shikamaru could've died there

Eh Sasuke isn't exactly smart. Not that Temari or Tayuya showed much brains either. Still sharingan only works if it can see. Flashbangs cure that for the first part. And Shikamaru is given knowledge about the sharingan for this battle. Shikamaru also didn't start actually training and had low chakra reserves during the first half of Naruto. It wasn't until all his friends nearly died that he began to get serious at getting stronger. If post-time skip Shika was to go back and fight pre-time skip Temari or Tayuya he'd have a lot more chakra and I doubt he'd loose or give up which was the case with Temari. Even then you still have to admit the weakest being the only one to come out unhurt is pretty impressive during the SR arc.

Shika's match against Hidan is completely different. Hidan could only be stopped in one way, and he also used Hidan to take out one of Kakuzu's hearts before he finished him off with a plan he could've done without the need for theatrics.

Sasuke not smart? How so? Sasuke is a genius. He escaped Deidaras bombs many times due to his smarts, and even escaped his 10mile radius on the fly in the nick of time with his brain. If Shikamaru were to go back and time and fight the genins obviously he would win.

Actually the deception helped Shikamaru greatly, after his shadow stopped working Hidan stopped attacking once he thought he had him already, transformed, stabbed himself, turned around and walked away, which let Shikamaru recover, almost decapitate him, and beat him.

Sawsgay would have lost teh fight against Deidera if it weren't for his raiton element naturally nullifying the inhaled bombs. Deidera was at a disadvantage from the get go. The fight shouldn't have even gotten to the point where Deidera blew himself up. That was luck.

Sasuke would have killed dei in a second if he was aiming for him and if Tobi wasnt there. Do people realize that Sasuke was in trouble cuz he couldnt move around freely. Elemental advantage. Dei had Range advantage and sky to ground range.

Considering Sawsgay can fly with CS2 and has a plethora of long range attacks at his disposal, no Deidera doesn't have much of a range advantage. And even if he did, being able to instantly nullify one of your opponents strongest moves > a nonexistent range advantage.

Tobi was a virtual nonfactor, and kill him in a second? lulz, I doubt that. Sawsgay admitted himself that he barely won, I believe.

I usually agree with whatever the NSK says.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Sasuke not smart? How so? Sasuke is a genius. He escaped Deidaras bombs many times due to his smarts, and even escaped his 10mile radius on the fly in the nick of time with his brain. If Shikamaru were to go back and time and fight the genins obviously he would win.

Actually the deception helped Shikamaru greatly, after his shadow stopped working Hidan stopped attacking once he thought he had him already, transformed, stabbed himself, turned around and walked away, which let Shikamaru recover, almost decapitate him, and beat him.

No he escaped Deidara's bombs by having the elemental advantage and having the sharingan. He won't have the ability to completely null any attack Shikamaru does, and he won't be expecting anything Shikamaru can come up with in twenty minutes.

Wasn't the blood all part of Shikamaru's plan anyway to trick Hidan?

Off topic - kento, who do you like most in Naruto? Same for you Nonsensi

Shikamaru or Tobi back before we learned he was Madara.

Favorite character is Temari with Neji as a close second.

Originally posted by Kento
Sasuke being a good fighter doesn't make him a genius at all. He's a skilled fighter with a hax bloodline limit nothing else.

No he escaped Deidara's bombs by having the elemental advantage and having the sharingan. He won't have the ability to completely null any attack Shikamaru does, and he won't be expecting anything Shikamaru can come up with in twenty minutes.

Wasn't the blood all part of Shikamaru's plan anyway to trick Hidan? [/B]

Originally posted by Terryc250
[B]He also thought on the fly the only way to escape by controlling Manda, and other things.

By this logic, Naruto and 90% of the characters in the show can be considered geniuses as well.

Originally posted by Terryc250
He's a genius because he learns quick, and acts/plans quick in battle.

It's not hard to learn quickly when your bloodline limit allows you to copy moves just by looking at them.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
By this logic, Naruto and 90% of the characters in the show can be considered geniuses as well.

It's not hard to learn quickly when your bloodline limit allows you to copy moves just by looking at them.