Post-Timeskip Shikamaru vs. Post-TS Sasuke

Originally posted by Terryc250
Not really, i dont see Naruto doing that kind of thing, i only see like Kakashi doing it

Hiding at the last second and then ambushing Neji, using kage bunshins as a distraction., the trick to make Zabuza let go of the water shield. Naruto's trick to make Kiba smack Akamaru, tricking Kidomaru, etc. Naruto has actually performed a lot more "ingenious" quick thinking feats than Sawsgay has.

You cant learn speed with sharingan, and other things things just by being able to copy jutsus, look at kakashi, he was considered a genius, he has the sharingan, Sasuke surpassed him in only 3 years

Sawsgay has two Sharingan. 131

And I don't think that Sawsgy pre-Itachi fight would have beaten Kakashi.

Sasuke can't really fly. Glide maybe. Dei made alot of incorrect rmakrs in that fight.

Sasuke simply stated he underestimated him and took him lightly. And Wasn't trying to kill Dei. He wanted to queston him and get information about his brother.

You don't have to kill someone to beat them. That's no excuse at all and not even an implication that Sawsgayw as only half-heartedly fighting. And Deidera was underestimating him too.

Scans please.

Originally posted by Terryc250
He's a genius because he learns quick, and acts/plans quick in battle.

He also thought on the fly the only way to escape by controlling Manda, and other things. Seriously there's not much shikamaru can do, if he uses his shadow on Sasuke, he's basically finished, sasuke will know where he is, and either overpower his shadow, or tsukiyomi him, or something, Shikamaru won't beableto finish him with just exploding tags and kunai's.

Yeah but its still something kakashi gave to him to help decieve Hidan.

Seriously what else has he done that he thought up off the fly besides Manda which in itself with PIS because he was said to be low on chakra, and didn't even begin to summon Manda until after the explosion. Which Manda shouldn't have even been able to arrive before Sasuke was dead.

Name one time anybody has been able to overpower the shadow? Tayuya was keeping it from choking her but Shikamaru was also nearly out of chakra. The only times I can remember it being overpowered where only in the anime.

And flashbangs keep sharingan from being used on him because Sasuke is blinded, and after that Shikamaru just needs to finish him off with whichever trap he has set up in those twenty minutes.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
You don't have to kill someone to beat them. That's no excuse at all and not even an implication that Sawsgayw as only half-heartedly fighting. And Deidera was underestimating him too.

Scans please.

What do you want scans of?

You, baby.

sasuke.

the one thing shikamaru probably won't be ready for is sasuke's insane speed.

shikamaru shows his face even once... this happens:

Shikamaru could outsmart him, but I think Sasuke uses Kirin and kills him too quickly.

Kirin?

Dude. 😐

Originally posted by Wil7
Shikamaru could outsmart him, but I think Sasuke uses Kirin and kills him too quickly.

Thing is. Sasuke sharingan would most likely iwn the fight. if Shika ever did catch Sasuke in shadow mane. Sasuke could just place Shika under genjutsu or force himself out of it. That and Sasuke crazy speed. He already knows Shika main tactics is trapping people with shadows. Shika is smarter but sasuke is smart enough and is too skilled and poweful for Shika to handle.

I'm pretty certain the smartest character in the show could figure out a way to avoid being caught in Sasuke's new genjutsus

lip biting can take you out of a genjutsu (tsukiyomi is probably the only exception), kurinai did it against itachi, but then again kurinai is a genjutsu specialist.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
lip biting can take you out of a genjutsu (tsukiyomi is probably the only exception), kurinai did it against itachi, but then again kurinai is a genjutsu specialist.

Well Shikamaru was able to get hiimself out of a genjutsu against Tayuya by using his shadow jutsus.

And he still lost that fight. He also needed to watch Tayuya for awhile to memorize he finger movements.

Originally posted by Ryuugi
And he still lost that fight. He also needed to watch Tayuya for awhile to memorize he finger movements.

Well he didn't have 20 minutes of preparation as well as full knowledge on the techniques of his opponent 🙄

I dont see how Shikamaru is getting out of Kasegui no Jutsu. Or the MS version of it at all.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Hiding at the last second and then ambushing Neji, using kage bunshins as a distraction., the trick to make Zabuza let go of the water shield. Naruto's trick to make Kiba smack Akamaru, tricking Kidomaru, etc. Naruto has actually performed a lot more "ingenious" quick thinking feats than Sawsgay has.

Sawsgay has two Sharingan. 131

And I don't think that Sawsgy pre-Itachi fight would have beaten Kakashi. [/B]

I'd think he would take more wins then losses, I don't see Kakashi being able to take on Deidara, or go toe to toe with Itachi genjutsu like Sasuke was able to.

Originally posted by Terryc250
And he lost to Temari

He beat her, but conceded since he was lazy and was running low on chakra, so much so that he couldn't fight another match, and Temari was indeed stated to be strategically gifted.

Originally posted by Csdabest
Thing is. Sasuke sharingan would most likely iwn the fight. if Shika ever did catch Sasuke in shadow mane. Sasuke could just place Shika under genjutsu or force himself out of it. That and Sasuke crazy speed. He already knows Shika main tactics is trapping people with shadows. Shika is smarter but sasuke is smart enough and is too skilled and poweful for Shika to handle.