Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Speculation.Dude, of course no Kryptonian can match Superman's feats. Superman has more showings than all the Kryptonian's put together.
its quality not quantity, this whole arc have been low showing for superman. And he did similar with supergirl remember making it seem like she wa sstronger or equal. Considering he has shown to be more powerful then Daxamites and some other kyrptonians when not holding back.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Speculation.Dude, of course no Kryptonian can match Superman's feats. Superman has more showings than all the Kryptonian's put together.
he's flat out shown more than once that he's not one to be f*cked with, which even the kryptonians around him have recognised.
his agreeing to be in the military guild in the first place shows a desire to be part of daily kryptonian life, and to not make everyone else look like tards.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm not.Like I said in my earlier posts, apparently the fact that he has absorbed Solar Radiation longer doesn't seem to be a reason for why he would be stronger than other Kryptonian's. Him being no more than an average citizen on New Krypton is emphasized. So outside of that possible reason, which does not seem to apply any more as far as I can tell, why would he be stronger than other Kryptonian's? A legit reason outside of him being Superman.
Having more experience doesn't make him more powerful but more efficient and skilled. Power =/= Skill
You're ignoring shit.
Originally posted by -Pr-
he's flat out shown more than once that he's not one to be f*cked with, which even the kryptonians around him have recognised.his agreeing to be in the military guild in the first place shows a desire to be part of daily kryptonian life, and to not make everyone else look like tards.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Like I said, when fighting other Kryptonian's it doesn't seem like the fact that he has been in the Sun longer means his stronger. I don't see why it wouldn't as Superman got stronger and stronger as he has grown but it doesn't seem that way. He does hold back.
i see your point. cuz i dont know if its becuz he's bigger or becuz he's insane and fights without any restrinat whatsoever but im willing to say that Non might be stronger than superman
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm not.Like I said in my earlier posts, apparently the fact that he has absorbed Solar Radiation longer doesn't seem to be a reason for why he would be stronger than other Kryptonian's. Him being no more than an average citizen on New Krypton is emphasized. So outside of that possible reason, which does not seem to apply any more as far as I can tell, why would he be stronger than other Kryptonian's? A legit reason outside of him being Superman.
Having more experience doesn't make him more powerful but more efficient and skilled. Power =/= Skill
The problem here is that I'm not sure anyone really know's the point you are trying to get at. Aside from the countless examples attesting to clark's physical and mental capcity and the highly suggested possibility that he might be directly related to a kryptonian God, I see more then enough evidence to credit him as being vastly above the average kryptonian. If anything, it is probably more accurate to suggest clark would be the equivalent to his species as someone like bruce is to humans.
In other words, he is"peak"kryptonian in that he has achieved the maxim threshold of his physical abilities. To consider him just a "typical"member of his species would be like considering Norrin a typical herald, which all callborating evidence renounces. At this point, it really isn't a issue of providing evidence for this fact but more a issue of you either accepting it or not. Browse though this thread for feats, consult expert opinions from people who have read his commics and you'll come to understand this point easily.
These scans are from Superman: World Of New Krypton #5.
Basically, we see Superman's friend, Tyr, visit Supes before his trial to offer an escape. Superman faced death for treason because he would not carry out an order to kill a vilian.
These scans are from Superman: World Of New Krypton #7
Here we see Superman uncover the deception of his friend Tyr. Supes realized this despite: just losing his father, uncle, General Zod's assassination attempt, flying back and forth from New Krypton and Earth to uncover who is pushing the planets towards war, etc. The scans show that Superman has great perception and powers of deduction.
Originally posted by RyTek
The problem here is that I'm not sure anyone really know's the point you are trying to get at. Aside from the countless examples attesting to clark's physical and mental capcity and the highly suggested possibility that he might be directly related to a kryptonian God, I see more then enough evidence to credit him as being vastly above the average kryptonian. If anything, it is probably more accurate to suggest clark would be the equivalent to his species as someone like bruce is to humans.In other words, he is"peak"kryptonian in that he has achieved the maxim threshold of his physical abilities. To consider him just a "typical"member of his species would be like considering Norrin a typical herald, which all callborating evidence renounces. At this point, it really isn't a issue of providing evidence for this fact but more a issue of you either accepting it or not. Browse though this thread for feats, consult expert opinions from people who have read his commics and you'll come to understand this point easily.
I've read plenty of Superman. Of course Superman has more exposure time and has more feats than all other Kryptonian's put together. It's Superman. I have no problem with him being superior to other Kryptonian's. I would simply like a reason as to why he is superior if the fact that he absorbed Sunlight longer doesn't seem to actually matter outside of his Superman, and he has a lot more feats (Which is just common sense.).
Shit, it's emphasized in New Krypton. 😬
Originally posted by batdude123
You're ignoring shit.
Your debating skills are legendary.
Originally posted by -Pr-
he's flat out shown more than once that he's not one to be f*cked with, which even the kryptonians around him have recognised.his agreeing to be in the military guild in the first place shows a desire to be part of daily kryptonian life, and to not make everyone else look like tards.
Other Kryptonian's have regonized his prowess. Props to Superman. He has a lot more experience with others and should be a lot more efficient then other Kryptonian's. That's just common sense. I just want a legit reason as to why one would consider "Superman > Kryptonian's" outside of his Superman. If the fact that he absorbed Sunlight longer doesn't seem to apply to other Kryptonian's if I understood it correctly.
Him joining the Military Guild was an option he choose as he wanted to live on Krypton. I don't recall his specific reason but I believe it was to keep things in line if he could etc. The basic Superman reason. The Military Guild makes the most sense in my opinion.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I've read plenty of Superman. Of course Superman has more exposure time and has more feats than all other Kryptonian's put together. It's Superman. I have no problem with him being superior to other Kryptonian's. I would simply like a reason as to why he is superior if the fact that he absorbed Sunlight longer doesn't seem to actually matter outside of his Superman, and he has a lot more feats (Which is just common sense.).Shit, it's emphasized in New Krypton. 😬
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I've read plenty of Superman. Of course Superman has more exposure time and has more feats than all other Kryptonian's put together. It's Superman. I have no problem with him being superior to other Kryptonian's. I would simply like a reason as to why he is superior if the fact that he absorbed Sunlight longer doesn't seem to actually matter outside of his Superman, and he has a lot more feats (Which is just common sense.).Shit, it's emphasized in New Krypton. 😬
Woops double post sorry, anyhow I suspect the reason he is superior to other kryptonian is probably due to his powerful lineage.I wager it's a similar situation to the" summer genes" in that th bloodline just happens to be very rich in power.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Your debating skills are legendary.Other Kryptonian's have regonized his prowess. Props to Superman. He has a lot more experience with others and should be a lot more efficient then other Kryptonian's. That's just common sense. I just want a legit reason as to why one would consider "Superman > Kryptonian's" outside of his Superman. If the fact that he absorbed Sunlight longer doesn't seem to apply to other Kryptonian's if I understood it correctly.
Him joining the Military Guild was an option he choose as he wanted to live on Krypton. I don't recall his specific reason but I believe it was to keep things in line if he could etc. The basic Superman reason. The Military Guild makes the most sense in my opinion.
it's kind of what rytek said. his lineage is superior to the average kryptonian. he has that whole captain america thing going on.
i honestly don't think it's the sunlight thing. i think it's more likely a combination of his lineage and the fact that he's had decades to work with his powers and to learn their various intricacies. no kryptonian is going to be that finely tuned when it comes to using their abilities.
he wanted to live on krypton, and part of living amongst his people was joining a guild, which he accepted so that he could be just another kryptonian. the military guild probably just suited his needs in terms of what he could do professionally...
Originally posted by GalvaclawLooking very pre-crisis there superman.
IDK who deserves bigger props on this one...GL for creating a construct that didnt crush the life out of everything those pincers swathed across, or supes for planet moving without a solar boost...no this isnt me trying to change the subject. again this new krypton stuff just shows that after a few decades give or take a few yrs writers will always add thier own spin on things cuz in D.O.S the reason he was able to come back was becuase he had spent that last 30+ yrs absorbing sunlight..and his massive battle with Doomsday just depleted his solar energy stores..it was subsequently established in continuity that as long as there is a yellow sun superman was functionally immortal and ageless..
so i too am a little bit baffled that kyrptonians who've had that particular genetic quark atrophied for a few relative centuries...or decades (its hard to tell how long its been with new continuity)by being stuck in a bottle are able to be his unequivocal equal after only bathing in sunlight for only a few months..especially since Kara's dad got taken out with one shot, and wasnt able to be revived, and the fact that Zod hasnt healed instantly just by going outside, pretty much lets me know that thier solar absorption is quite up to his standards yet
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why would he be? I'm surprise he isn't but what reason would there be for him to be above the average male Kryptonian like him. I mean outside of him absorbing Solar Radiation longer and more experience with his powers(And I recall him being called the healthiest new born on Krypton once.), why would he be, besides the reason "HIS THE SUPERMAN!!!!". I mean it's even emphasized in New Krypton.Not saying he isn't. Just wondering why he would be.
First, Superman is technically a demi-god ala Hercules. He is a direct descendent of Rao, the kryptonian god. On top of that, Jor-EL made sure he was a peak specimen of Kryptonian psychology. Add to that the Eradicators "upgrade" of Superman after D.O.S., years of exposure and healing from his weaknesses (imagine it working like a vaccine) to strengthen him, and then on top of that training with the worlds best at things Kryptonians don't deal with (Bats, Satana, MM, WW for magic training, mind over body, and fighting skills), and years of solar energy storage to go the distance and you have someone that by far eclipses the avg being of his race.
This should answer your question.
Anti-Telepathy
Superman can put up a mental shield to block people entering his brain
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/worldsfinest_203_15.jpg
Speed:
"Superman can race a speeding photon to its target"
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/JLAHeavensLadderp007.jpg
Strength:
Here Superman flys an oil tanker into space
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