If Jesus ran for office...

Started by Da Pittman5 pages

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
a quote from wikipedia:

"The largest religion in the US is Christianity, practiced by the majority of the population (nearly 76.5% in 2001[5]). Roughly 51.3% of Americans are Protestants, 23.9% are Catholics, and 1.7% are Mormons (the name commonly used to refer to members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints), and 1.6% to various other Christian denominations.[9] Christianity was introduced during the period of European colonization."

Wiki is not a real reliable source for info, you should us http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html And as Bardock said you claimed that world and not the US.

Originally posted by Gannon
John 18:36 "Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence."
You DO know that he is not talking about Heaven, right?

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
a quote from wikipedia:

"The largest religion in the US is Christianity, practiced by the majority of the population (nearly 76.5% in 2001[5]). Roughly 51.3% of Americans are Protestants, 23.9% are Catholics, and 1.7% are Mormons (the name commonly used to refer to members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints), and 1.6% to various other Christian denominations.[9] Christianity was introduced during the period of European colonization."

That's in the US not in the world.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
a quote from wikipedia:

"The largest religion in the US is Christianity, practiced by the majority of the population (nearly 76.5% in 2001[5]). Roughly 51.3% of Americans are Protestants, 23.9% are Catholics, and 1.7% are Mormons (the name commonly used to refer to members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints), and 1.6% to various other Christian denominations.[9] Christianity was introduced during the period of European colonization."

Again, where is that 70% of americans on your average Sunday afternoon?

Originally posted by Devil King
Again, where is that 70% of americans on your average Sunday afternoon?

Question is, who would they ally with come crunch time?

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Question is, who would they ally with come crunch time?

But, see, when being asked about their religious persuasion, it is crunch time. 70% of Americans claim some allegience to Christianity when asked, but when it comes time to practice it, they're sadly lacking. Most people aren't in line for communion or to help the poor or to donate their tithe to the community chest. They call themselves Christians when asked, but do not one damned thing to practice it. In this country, and in polls, allegience to one over the next is as easy as answering a question. This is all a matter of what one says versus what they actually do. How to make a real world correlation? Most americans are opposed to bailing out the Auto Industry, but would absolutely be willing to accept a million dollar hand out from the federal government for themselves. This is what I hear when I talk to my friends. Saying you're a christian in America is as normal and patriotic as saying you love America. But, most people don't do shit to defend this country, other than going shopping after the 9/11 attacks.

Re: Re: If Jesus ran for office...

Originally posted by Robtard
That video ignores the fact that Jesus was a total badass in-line with Republican ideals. He approved of his followers carrying swords (the gun of the time) and he wasn't a peaceful liberal either, as he threatened the Jew money-lenders by shaking a whip at them once and knocked over a few tables.

Actually, after Peter had cut off the ear of one of the guards that came to arrest Jesus, Jesus scolded him and said,"He who lives by the sword dies by the sword"

Just shows that you aetheists make really upsurd accusations and insults that no doubt would have to be answered for.

What a load of shit. I've met my fair share of "christians" who live by the sword every day of their absurd, willfully ignorant lives.

Originally posted by Devil King
What a load of shit. I've met my fair share of "christians" who live by the sword every day of their absurd, willfully ignorant lives.

Put your deluded thoughts aside for just a second and understand that Jesus Christ IS the Prince of Peace.

Originally posted by Quincy Jones
Put your deluded thoughts aside for just a second and understand that Jesus Christ IS the Prince of Peace.

THIS IS JUST A STATEMENT.

Understand that statements don't prove anything. I can repeat five hundred times that "The Fonz IS a mutated tomato from Jupiter". It doesn't make it true. It has just as much bearing as your claim for Jesus being the "Prince of Peace"...more even, since none of the words are ill defined concepts.

But lets put it to the test:

"The Fonz IS a mutated tomato from Jupiter"
"The Fonz IS a mutated tomato from Jupiter"
"The Fonz IS a mutated tomato from Jupiter"
"The Fonz IS a mutated tomato from Jupiter"
"The Fonz IS a mutated tomato from Jupiter"
"The Fonz IS a mutated tomato from Jupiter"
"The Fonz IS a mutated tomato from Jupiter"
"The Fonz IS a mutated tomato from Jupiter"
"The Fonz IS a mutated tomato from Jupiter"
"The Fonz IS a mutated tomato from Jupiter"
"The Fonz IS a mutated tomato from Jupiter"

Nope, still nonsense I just made up. I admit, you got it going for you that the nonsense you spout has been made up 2000 years ago, but, really, those people used their hands to wipe their asses and lived in huts made of cow dung...why exactly are they supposed to be more of an authority than anyone that lives today! Don't mind it, it's a rhetorical question.

Originally posted by Quincy Jones
Put your deluded thoughts aside for just a second and understand that Jesus Christ IS the Prince of Peace.

But the idea that Jesus is the Prince of Peace is a delusion in its self.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
I would vote for him.

Buddha can be Vice President. Mohammed can be Secretary of State. Krishna can be Foreign policy administrator.


droolio

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That's in the US not in the world.

The world doesn't vote for president. US citizens do.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
The world doesn't vote for president. US citizens do.
Be that as it may you clearly said that 70% of the worlds population is Christian. It's a minor slip, really, just admit an error and move on.

Re: Re: Re: If Jesus ran for office...

Originally posted by Quincy Jones
Just shows that you aetheists make really upsurd accusations and insults that no doubt would have to be answered for.
😆 Atheist do not have the market cornered on this, shall I bring up Jerry Falwell 😉

Originally posted by Quincy Jones
Put your deluded thoughts aside for just a second and understand that Jesus Christ IS the Prince of Peace.

I feel compelled to back Quincy Jones, if the forum will indulge me

Mathew
5:7 "Blessed are the MERCIFUL, for they will obtain mercy.

5:9 "Blessed are the PEACE-MAKERS, for they will be called children of God"

5:38-45

"You have heard it said (OLD Testament , Eye for an Eye and Tooth for a tooth)
But I say unto you DO NOT RESIST EVIL, but that who ever shall smite the on their right cheek turn to him to present the other also

,and if a man takes your coat, let him have your cloak also.
Give to him that ask of the and to him that borrow turn him not away,

You have heard that its been said(Old Testament ,Though shall love they neighbor and hate thine enemy)

But I say LOVE YOUR ENEMY,BLESS them that CURSE you,DO GOOD TO THEM THAT HATE YOU, PRAY FOR THEM THAT DISPITEFULLY USE YOU"

So any Christian that lives "By the sword" as NO Christian.

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
I feel compelled to back Quincy Jones, if the forum will indulge me

Mathew
5:7 "Blessed are the MERCIFUL, for they will obtain mercy.

5:9 "Blessed are the PEACE-MAKERS, for they will be called children of God"

5:38-45

"You have heard it said (OLD Testament , Eye for an Eye and Tooth for a tooth)
But I say unto you DO NOT RESIST EVIL, but that who ever shall smite the on their right cheek turn to him to present the other also

,and if a man takes your coat, let him have your cloak also.
Give to him that ask of the and to him that borrow turn him not away,

You have heard that its been said(Old Testament ,Though shall love they neighbor and hate thine enemy)

But I say LOVE YOUR ENEMY,BLESS them that CURSE you,DO GOOD TO THEM THAT HATE YOU, PRAY FOR THEM THAT DISPITEFULLY USE YOU"

So any Christian that lives "By the sword" as NO Christian.

However if you go by the idea that Jesus is part of God and God is all about the violence so how can he be the Prince of Peace if he is also God?

Originally posted by Da Pittman
However if you go by the idea that Jesus is part of God and God is all about the violence so how can he be the Prince of Peace if he is also God?

Its all about the context, if I'm understanding your question. At the time of the old Testament The people who were followers of Yah-Weh (God) were very small in numbers, surrounded geographically and were sought out by everyone to be destroyed ( I know saying "everyone" is a general statement but i could provide a list, if you wish, of the Nations ). In that context, In order for Gods people to survive they had to fight. and they had to survive the lineage in order for the Messiah to be. This is part of the validation by Prophecy.

Now the Eye for an Eye thing is misconstrued as vengeance but what He was Talking about is "Equal Justice" to quell "You killed my son so i will Kill your son AND Father"

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
Its all about the context, if I'm understanding your question. At the time of the old Testament The people who were followers of Yah-Weh (God) were very small in numbers, surrounded geographically and were sought out by everyone to be destroyed ( I know saying "everyone" is a general statement but i could provide a list, if you wish, of the Nations ). In that context, In order for Gods people to survive they had to fight. and they had to survive the lineage in order for the Messiah to be. This is part of the validation by Prophecy.

Now the Eye for an Eye thing is misconstrued as vengeance but what He was Talking about is "Equal Justice" to quell "You killed my son so i will Kill your son AND Father"

Well not what I was talking about but another good point. If these were the followers of God and Peace why would they need to fight? While I understand that they needed to fight because they would be wiped off the face of the planet but if they were "true" followers of peace they wouldn't need too and God should have protected its followers leading the example of peace that he "supposed" to preach.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Well not what I was talking about but another good point. If these were the followers of God and Peace why would they need to fight? While I understand that they needed to fight because they would be wiped off the face of the planet but if they were "true" followers of peace they wouldn't need too and God should have protected its followers leading the example of peace that he "supposed" to preach.

You are opening a huge can of worms.Major Theological debate. If God wanted too he could end all War, All famine and make us believe and we would live in a utopia, it comes back to Free will. It was all to lead up to Christ. Once the world had been left on its own "Free Will" it was shown how man would try and destroy himself knowing Good and Evil, that man could not redeem himself . The Old Testament is a preface to the main body of the Story "Christ" The redeemer