Lich King Vs. Sephiroth, Kratos, Samus, Dante, Xemnas

Started by Gumachi8 pages

Dante could block all of the attacks with Royal Guard W/Dreadnaught armor.

And stop time in 3 ways.

Dante can create doppeganger.

If Lich King hits Dante he automatcially regenerates his health.

As for the barrier the Blade of Olympus automatically breaks it. He can do what Zeus did and that was NUKE DAMAGE.

Dante has Yamato--a sword that can cut thru anything.

Originally posted by Gumachi
Dante could block all of the attacks with Royal Guard W/Dreadnaught armor.

And stop time in 3 ways.

Dante can create doppeganger.

If Lich King hits Dante he automatcially regenerates his health.

As for the barrier the Blade of Olympus automatically breaks it. He can do what Zeus did and that was NUKE DAMAGE.

Dante has Yamato--a sword that can cut thru anything.

Time can not be manipulated in this battle. Read first post. And I'm sorry, but none of the things you just listed was very concincing to work in their benefit against the Lich King.

Originally posted by PPDFJ2
There's no evidence he can, but I don't see it ridiculous to think he can when he:

1. Created one of his own.

2. Talks about erasing the realm of light (another term for the real world of KH)

List of things he can do

2. Sargeras was talking about erasing existance. Does not mean he is capable of doing so with some spell or whatever.

Originally posted by Nozdormu
Time can not be manipulated in this battle. Read first post. And I'm sorry, but none of the things you just listed was very concincing to work in their benefit against the Lich King.

It does when his 'one hit kill' doesn't even one hit kill.
Please, show me evidence that Fordring was going to die and that he wasn't simply blasted and down temporarily.

Show me evidence that Dante, who's one of the weaker characters here, can't speed blitz him being a bullet timer and all.

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Originally posted by Burning thought
I dont know exactley who but it was a one hit kill, none of the blasts from Zeus used or the sisters or any of them have shown to kill in one shot.
It was when I read this that I decided to ignore your post.

Originally posted by Jugglenaut
It does when his 'one hit kill' doesn't even one hit kill.
Please, show me evidence that Fordring was going to die and that he wasn't simply blasted and down temporarily.

Show me evidence that Dante, who's one of the weaker characters here, can't speed blitz him being a bullet timer and all.

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He werent using his one-hit ability in that fight.. It was just what that other guy who didnt seem to know what he was talking about came to believe.. It doesnt look anything like that.. Not even the same color..

And factually, Tirion was empowered by the holy ground at that very scenario.. He, Darion and Lich King all three agree on that point..

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
He cant.

Most of his real "feats", were when he was empowered with the power of the heartless hearts and Kingdom Hearts.

Funny, I seem to recall it being possible for only a handful of Heartless being able to do so, and Xemnas holds more power than any of them in his base form, and in his Kingdom Hearts empowered form he dwarfs every Heartless in existence, and it was explicitly stated he was able to do so.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
On who? Random WC weakling #2? Lol.

Overlord Drakuru was before Lich King blasted him an immortal mix between a Death Knight and a Necromancer I would say, although his real class has never been specified. He did possess a grand varity of various spells, both necromancer and death knight ones, but also those of mages, warlocks and so on. This "random WC weakling #2" was of such magnitude that Lich King trusted him with an entire independant army of his own, only under the name of the Lich King. There are many random WC weaklings you encounter in WoW, but Drakuru is not one of them.

What you will be doing for the questchain is infiltrating his base in disguise as an undead, do quests for Drakuru and eventually win his trust. Once you have gained his trust, he tells you about his secret weapon and your questgive then declares the secret weapon to be the only way to kill Drakuru.

He was throughout the questline claimed undefeatable by mortal means, so what you had to do in the end was take control of the secret weapons that Drakuru had been creating and use them against him. However, these weapons that were supposed to bring absolute victory to Drakuru proved not even them sufficient to actually kill him, and when you have been trying for a while he gets angry and summon forth the Lich King:

Overlord Drakuru says: ENOUGH! Dis foolish treachery has cost ya your destiny! Master, dis mortal scum be double-crossin' us. Dey must be made to suffer!
- At which point, Drakuru has summoned the Lich King.
The Lich King says: You have failed me, Drakuru! It is you who should suffer. Be content that your death is a quick one..
- Which leads to the Lich King sending out a blast that kills Drakuru immediately.

I saw nothing in that post that hinted about him being as durable as anyone on the team. And, from what you said, Lich King essentially cheap-shot him.

That post did not have any intentions of implicating him be anything like the others in durability, although I would dare say that he is above Sephiroth, Samus and possibly Dante in durability. My point of that post was not to speak in Lich King's benefit of this debate, but rather get the point clear that Drakuru is not some random WC weakling.

Originally posted by Nozdormu
That post did not have any intentions of implicating him be anything like the others in durability, although I would dare say that he is above Sephiroth, Samus and possibly Dante in durability. My point of that post was not to speak in Lich King's benefit of this debate, but rather get the point clear that Drakuru is not some random WC weakling.
Under what basis is he better than Sephiroth, Dante, and Samus(and from what I hear, her suit is actually incredibly durable)?

Maybe "weakling" is not the right word, but BT seems to think that since it is a one hit kill, and apparently the people Kratos and others have fought have not killed in one hit, he will kill any on this team...Then again, he also thinks that LK is on Sargeras' level. 😐

Lich King is powerful, but not on Sargeras level for sure.. Lich King has been defeated three times already from what I have seen: Tirion Fordring, Putress and Tirion Fordring again.. Three which would not with all the preparation in the world ever stand in the shadow of a chance against the mighty titan..

Anyway, back to Drakuru.. The secret weapon I mentioned was using Drakuru's own creations against him.. For minutes you pummeled him wildly with his own mighty creations, only to have it turn out you have not actually even injured him..

The reason I consider him above Sephiroth is because I have not seen Sephiroth take any damage that can be in comparison to the pummel Drakuru suffered.. Samus may have a mighty armor, but beneath it rests the frail body of a human.. Like 6 out of 10 Lich King attacks (Revealed so far) does not go for the flesh or physical shell of the target, but aims for the soul and blood.. And well, I dont know much about Dante, but I've never really seen him as one very endurant, not by judging from debates I have seen held in his favor.. Resistant, but not durable..

Well Dante is not so much incredibly durable, he just has an impressive healing factor was just my understanding.

Samus is not actually fully human...Though I admit my knowledge on her is lacking.

Yeah, Sephiroth is not all that durable to tell the truth, at least relative to the likes of Xemnas or Kratos.

And his own creations I would think should be weaker than he is.

His own creations are obviously weaker than him, but stronger than anything the Ebon Blade could dish out, and they can dish out quite a lot. Not as strong as him does not make the creations weak. Drakuru called the creations the key of victory. With them, he would deliver the final blow from the scourge and none would come in his way. The irony struck and his creations turned against him, instead completely halting the scourge progress in the trollish region Zul'Drak.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
It was when I saw the size of your block of text I decided to ignore your post. I dont have any idea what ime talking about and cannot debate against the LK

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx

Maybe "weakling" is not the right word, but BT seems to think that since it is a one hit kill, and apparently the people Kratos and others have fought have not killed in one hit, he will kill any on this team...Then again, he also thinks that LK is on Sargeras' level. 😐

No I said I think LK "could" still be on Sargeras' level and that the people on Kratos' team will die because they have zero resistance to the LK magic.

What it breaks down into is none of the guys would resist lich king messing with their souls especially if with a glance he can apprently lock them with his life/death manipulation sphere and destroy them.

Originally posted by Burning thought
the people on Kratos' team will die because they have zero resistance to the LK magic.

No limit fallacy?
I guess Lich King dies because he's shown no resistance to any of Kratos' spells or Yamato's dimension slicing

learn what a no limits fallacy is first, if a guy has zero resistance, saying a spell will destroy him is not a no limits fallacy, he simply couldnt resist the spells effects....

No because the Lich King is a spiritual entity and in some points of view is already dead, Yamatos slicing ability would require physical resistance, since it is physical and most of Kratos' spells are also apart from the hades spell i belive.

This is the sphere move. Unfortunately does this video not show Lich King pulling the character to him. I advise activating sound and listen to Lich King speak:

YouTube video

Originally posted by Burning thought
learn what a no limits fallacy is first, if a guy has zero resistance, saying a spell will destroy him is not a no limits fallacy, he simply couldnt resist the spells effects....

No because the Lich King is a spiritual entity and in some points of view is already dead, Yamatos slicing ability would require physical resistance, since it is physical and most of Kratos' spells are also apart from the hades spell i belive.

Titans Magic from GOWII Kratos.

Then your either talking about an Electricial move, which is physical, a bow that fires wind blasts and hurricanes (physical) and earthquake.....physical...need I say more?