Originally posted by Zack Fair
Exponentially faster than current Supes. He has pushed against a planet sized object going at FTL speeds. He would rush him at the word go because he would be bloodlusted. Besides if he spent 24 hours in the sun he would do so because of a huge threat, so in that instance Supes sundipping is like him taking his glooves off. Meaning he'd be waiting for the match to start to flex those muscles against whatever poorsoul shortofskyfather that faces him.
He'd lose nearly all of his power instantly if Surfer turned the sun red. Prime did. New Earth Supes did as well. And Surfer has bullrushed at a minimum, conservative estimate of 31 million times faster than light speed. You don't have anything solid to show me saying that Superman can get to him faster. So I don't foresee any problem with Surfer doing what he needs to do to win.
Originally posted by Enyalus
He'd lose nearly all of his power instantly if Surfer turned the sun red. Prime did. New Earth Supes did as well. And Surfer has bullrushed at a minimum, conservative estimate of 31 million times faster than light speed. You don't have anything solid to show me saying that Superman can get to him faster. So I don't foresee any problem with Surfer doing what he needs to do to win.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Besides him travelling over 3 million lightyears in a panel while not sundipped
When was this?
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
and new earth superman doesn't instantly depower especially when he has a massive solar charge going.
Yes he does. Especially when in the middle of the sun. NE Supes flew through the red sun with Prime and was instantly depowered. Amazo hit him with red sun radiation twice and dropped him quick, each time. These are all recent events. I might be able to think of more recent times, too.
No he doesn't he has been in middle of a star when it turned red and didn't instantly depower,and yes of course he depowered when he went through the middle of a red star and then landed on a planet full of kryptonite,and sundipped superman dipping for 24 hours is going to have a ridiculous amount of power stored up,surfer would get torn limb from limb with utter ease.
Originally posted by EnyalusWhen was this?
Yes he does. Especially when in the middle of the sun. NE Supes flew through the red sun with Prime and was instantly depowered. Amazo hit him with red sun radiation twice and dropped him quick, each time. These are all recent events. I might be able to think of more recent times, too. [/B]
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
No he doesn't he has been in middle of a star when it turned red and didn't instantly depower,and yes of course he depowered when he went through the middle of a red star and then landed on a planet full of kryptonite,and sundipped superman dipping for 24 hours is going to have a ridiculous amount of power stored up,surfer would get torn limb from limb with utter ease.
If what you say is true about him not depowering immediately, then you're right - Surfer would get his salad tossed (haha). I still don't believe it, though. Again, he's got plenty of instances where he is depowered very quickly by a red solar burst.
Do you know the issue or anything you're referring to regarding the 3 mil lightyears in a panel thing?
Originally posted by xJLxKing
By the time SS tries to transform the Yellow Sun by depowering it, Superman would be soo far away that its not even going to be an issue to him
So he is going to remove himself from the battlefield because it is stated that they are fighting in the sun. So by your logic, Superman would be so afraid that he would just forfeit.
Infinite crisis they took prime from almost the middle of the universe to the andromeda galaxy(which is where rao is)in 2 panels,the andromeda galaxy 2.5 million lightyears from the milky way...and the milky way isn't the center of the universe so it was a minimum 2.5 million lightyears which if it took them an entire day to achieve(lol)puts them at 912,500,000 times the speed of light...non sundipped,sundipped supermans stats skyrocket from a couple hours in the sun...