I don't consider Shang-chi to be anything special. For example, his marital skills, I don't remember being on the same level as Iron Fist who I think before his recent upgrades stood to take a 6/10 majority against shieldless cap.. .but with upgrades a lot more...
Shangchi... i'll say takes 3/10. Both would be the same skill level. But cap can't tire... is stronger... and faster... but thats due to his sss.
Originally posted by rotiart
I don't consider Shang-chi to be anything special. For example, his marital skills, I don't remember being on the same level as Iron Fist who I think before his recent upgrades stood to take a 6/10 majority against shieldless cap.. .but with upgrades a lot more...Shangchi... i'll say takes 3/10. Both would be the same skill level. But cap can't tire... is stronger... and faster... but thats due to his sss.
Using his chi Shang is considerably stronger, faster and more durable than Cap. Shang has ridiculous superhuman stats when he amps himself. In a KMC match he would thump Cap 10/10
DD and Taskmaster amongst others have hurt Spiderman with their punches etc. Nothing special. Peak and low superhumans routinely survive getting hit by less skilled but much stronger opponents. Nothing special.
Shang has survived getting hit thousands of feet into the air and the subsequent fall. Scans won't post for some reason but they are on the first page of this thread.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=496567&highlight=title%3A%28richard+dragon%29
Here Shang flat out blocks a punch from Hiroim.Strength and durability.
http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blz10hi5.jpg
http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blz11so5.jpg
Shang dodges bullets after they were fired.
http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=masterofkungfu03076le.jpg
Dodges bullets Matrix style.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sinister_samurai/Shang%20Chi/?action=view¤t=Wisdom03-10.jpg
Destroys a doombot with his bare hands.Strength and striking power.
http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img010ty8.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img011dp0.jpg
Destroys a radio tower with one kick.
http://img44.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=6ef92_radio.jpg
ps Why are you bringing up Iron Fist?
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well for starters enemies of Shang Chi said Cap was better.
I personally think Cap is a better fighter than Shang. However it is Shang's chi amping which gets him the win here. How is Cap going to hang with a guy who has vast superhuman stats AND is at least very close to him in skill without his shield?
Originally posted by rotiart
honestly figure iron fist > shang chi
and i compare cap to being able to hang with if.
An all out Cap managed to 'hang' with a very tired, old school pre-upgraded, holding back Iron Fist.......and he had his shield.
and yes Iron Fist would beat Shang Chi.He would also demolish Cap.
In a KMC match Shang would however beat Cap without his shield.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well for starters enemies of Shang Chi said Cap was better.
that's what i was thinking. and cap has lasted for a prolonged length of time 1on1 against namor in straight h2h. 😬
why is it cap always gets the short end of the stick in these cases? hasn't wolverine pretty much demolished shang in the past?
Originally posted by Warrior18
An all out Cap managed to 'hang' with a very tired, old school pre-upgraded, holding back Iron Fist.......and he had his shield.and yes Iron Fist would beat Shang Chi.He would also demolish Cap.
In a KMC match Shang would however beat Cap without his shield.
"managed to hang"? 😕
he made a mockery of IF. the IF sent cap for a loop but did no real damage at all and cap was up again. sure IF was tired, but even he admitted cap was too much.
and what the hell is IF part of this for anyway . . .? 😕
Originally posted by leonidas
"managed to hang"? 😕he made a mockery of IF. the IF sent cap for a loop but did no real damage at all and cap was up again. sure IF was tired, but even he admitted cap was too much.
and what the hell is IF part of this for anyway . . .? 😕
1. I'm pretty sure Danny had just fought the entire wrecking crew(I think)......so he would be very very tired.
2.No I'm sure he just said Cap's strength and speed were incredible, yet his skill was very basic. Also this was oldschool IF who was nowhere near as good as he is now. Aaaaaaaaaaand Cap thought Danny had committed a serious crime or something, so he was not holding back at all. Danny on the other hand was trying not to hurt Cap.
3. Lol. I know. An earlier poster had brought up IF. I think he was saying Cap has taken it to IF, and since IF is better than Shang, Cap wins. Pure ABC logic. 🙂
Originally posted by leonidas
that's what i was thinking. and cap has lasted for a prolonged length of time 1on1 against namor in straight h2h. 😬why is it cap always gets the short end of the stick in these cases? hasn't wolverine pretty much demolished shang in the past?
1.Cap not being killed instantly against Namor is down to Namor being a bollocks fighter, Cap being an incredible fighter, Cap being fast enough to keep up, his mighty shield and probably a bit of PIS thrown in for good measure. 🙂 With Cap's shield Shang could conceivably do the same.
2.I have only seen the scans of Logan v Shang once. Unless I'm wrong about the circumstances that was bad writing in my opinion. Shang got handled in something like four panels and he seemed to forget he can amp his self with chi for goodness sake!
