I still don't see what is stopping Wrecker from using blasts that are so powerful that can rip a whole in reality, cast illusions, create forcefield or wave his hand and banish anyone or even Thunderball using his wrecking ball to sap strength (even did it on Hercules)
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I'd rather leave them out of this. Unless they come out of the shadows......
Why? what does it matter?
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Well, whether or not Wolverine cut his face open in that scan, In the NA fight, Logan only managed to hit
I think Wolverine can definetly cut Wrecker, but that instance was clearly his mask being torn apart not his skin. Good lord it doesn't even look like skin.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I see it too, clear as can be. BTW X-Men ftw.
Where? I'm not trying to be a dick, but can you please tell me?
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Was Juggy fight back?
Yes, but we only saw the aftermath not the actual fight.
Seriously Wrecker took down Wolverine, Spider-man (<- yes I admit it my beloved Spider-man looses...) and Luke Cage maybe even more I just can't remeber them all and in the end pheromones stopped him no Wolverine, no Spider-man, no Luke Cage and here we have 3 others in the same league 2 take on Colossus and 2 on Wolverine, doesn't matter how hard you wank on his HF sooner or later he goes down for the count, stop treating him like a painless, untouchable MA killing machine while throwing around lesser feats / low showings of all others to justify a win for him. Great he can cut them he can cut ****ing everyone did he always won? No...
this has gotten out of hand... 😬
The Crew are only 10 tonners and limited durability nothing more. They are not skilled fighters nor have any impressive display of fighting feats or reaction time. they are as skilled as random thugs but with added bonus of 10 tons. they can be easily dispatched with simple claw swipes and stabs... they are incapable of even keeping track with logan in a blitz attack.
also Spidey would tear through the wreckers hench men like a knife through butter...
the only one dangerous in here is the Wrecker and he is only a 40 tonner with a crow bar. The wrecker cant drain their strength like he does energy or magic like he has done b4.
The Wrecker didnt take any one down in the New Avengers all he did was temporarily Battle field removed them. that doesnt mean he can beat the Avengers single handily.
Logan isnt un-knockable but that doesnt mean these guys will be the ones to do it.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
this has gotten out of hand... 😬The Crew are only 10 tonners and limited durability nothing more. They are not skilled fighters nor have any impressive display of fighting feats or reaction time. they are as skilled as random thugs but with added bonus of 10 tons. they can be easily dispatched with simple claw swipes and stabs... they are incapable of even keeping track with logan in a blitz attack.
the only one dangerous in here is the Wrecker and he is only a 40 tonner with a crow bar. The wrecker cant drain their strength like he does energy or magic like he has done b4.
The Wrecker didnt take any one down in the New Avengers all he did was temporarily Battle field removed them. that doesnt mean he can beat the Avengers single handily.
Logan isnt un-knockable but that doesnt mean these guys will be the ones to do it.
Even if it was only bfr's on the New Avengers, Wrecker was stomping them, they had absolutely no chance if it wasn't for Spider Woman distracting him for a while with chemicals.
The only ones who had no chance of stopping thhe wrecker was Cage and spiderwoman... Cage nor spiderwoman dont have the strength or power to knock him out. Spiderman with space and terrain to use would dance around the wrecker till he knocks him out.... Logan would just need one well placed strike to ko,kill him.
Wolverine faces more powerful, durable, stronger guys then wrecker who also happen to be better skilled... the wrecker has nothing that logan hasnt faced and overcome.. the wrecker is a cream puff compared to who he faces... Logan is also fast enough to climb all over him and has the skills to dodge and counter effectively.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
this has gotten out of hand... 😬The Crew are only 10 tonners and limited durability nothing more. They are not skilled fighters nor have any impressive display of fighting feats or reaction time. they are as skilled as random thugs but with added bonus of 10 tons. they can be easily dispatched with simple claw swipes and stabs... they are incapable of even keeping track with logan in a blitz attack.
haha wow.
No reaction speed? Let's ignore the little detail the Crew has had no problems tagging Spider-Man, Daredevil, Wolverine, Northstar, Deadpool, etc. Also are you using the handbook bio stats? Oh my.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
also Spidey would tear through the wreckers hench men like a knife through butter...
ORLY?
1. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/Marvel_Team-Up_Vol-2_06_p12.jpg
2. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/Marvel_Team-Up_Vol-2_06_p13.jpg
3. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/Marvel_Team-Up_Vol-2_06_p14.jpg
4. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/Marvel_Team-Up_Vol-2_06_p15.jpg
5. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/Marvel_Team-Up_Vol-2_06_p18.jpg
Try again.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
the only one dangerous in here is the Wrecker and he is only a 40 tonner with a crow bar. The wrecker cant drain their strength like he does energy or magic like he has done b4.
Stop using handbooks as their constantly wrong, as even Thor called Wrecker his equal. Actually Thunderball has and did on Hercules.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
Logan isnt un-knockable but that doesnt mean these guys will be the ones to do it.
Wrecker has one-shotted Savage Hulk..
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
The only ones who had no chance of stopping thhe wrecker was Cage and spiderwoman... Cage nor spiderwoman dont have the strength or power to knock him out. Spiderman with space and terrain to use would dance around the wrecker till he knocks him out.... Logan would just need one well placed strike to ko,kill him.Wolverine faces more powerful, durable, stronger guys then wrecker who also happen to be better skilled... the wrecker has nothing that logan hasnt faced and overcome.. the wrecker is a cream puff compared to who he faces... Logan is also fast enough to climb all over him and has the skills to dodge and counter effectively.
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/NewAvengers7_19.jpg
That's some good outmanouvering of Wrecker Logan pulls there.
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/NewAvengers7_19.jpgThat's some good outmanouvering of Wrecker Logan pulls there.
SWAT!
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/dpsk_05_004.jpg
CATCH
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/dpsk_05_005.jpg
Originally posted by -K-M-In Spideys defense he already was in air though 😮 🙁
SWAT!http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/dpsk_05_004.jpg
CATCH
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/dpsk_05_005.jpg
Originally posted by -K-M-
SWAT!http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/dpsk_05_004.jpg
CATCH
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/dpsk_05_005.jpg
both were in the air in mid jump hitting them doesnt make them equal in speed to them or agile. Catching DP blade after that long as Jump and telegraphing is still impressive but nothing that would make them faster then someone like DD.. its a basic feat nothing more.
Again Fighting hercules and thor is not the same as fighting non mystical or energy beings.. the wrecking crew are only dangerous to them b/c they amp up off those guys godly essence.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
both were in the air in mid jump hitting them doesnt make them equal in speed to them or agile. Catching DP blade after that long as Jump and telegraphing is still impressive but nothing that would make them faster then someone like DD.. its a basic feat nothing more.
That's reflexes, but not good enough? Fine, there's lots more
1. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/AlphaFlight119-04.jpg
1. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/AlphaFlight119-10.jpg
2. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/AlphaFlight119-11.jpg*
*Crew were never said to have lost this upgrade. Shall I go on?
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
Again Fighting hercules and thor is not the same as fighting non mystical or energy beings.. the wrecking crew are only dangerous to them b/c they amp up off those guys godly essence.
Ummm...what? Where are you getting this as that was NEVER stated.
Ughhhh *facepalm*
Seriously?
Good lord.... Colossus has almost Solo'd the Crew by himself, Wolverine took half of them out by himself while fighting multiple other villains in NA: Annual 2 and Quite frankly, the only good showing Wrecker has against Logan was littered with circumstantial nonsense, one of the only legitimately good showings he has and it was nullified when Wolverine tore half his face apart... Which KM I don't see how you even think that's APPROACHING being a debateable subject. 😐
The Crew has high showings, and most of those too are circumstantial... but the bottem line is that they'll get cut down or crushed by a team like this one. Shhhhit.... C'mon Ironfist punked these guys by himself without even going all out. 😬
Originally posted by jinzin
Good lord.... Colossus has almost Solo'd the Crew by himself,
That was before their countless upgrades and Wrecker took him out with one hit.
Originally posted by jinzin
Wolverine took half of them out by himself while fighting multiple other villains in NA: Annual 2 and Quite frankly, the only good showing Wrecker has against Logan was littered with circumstantial nonsense, one of the only legitimately good showings he has and it was nullified when Wolverine tore half his face apart... Which KM I don't see how you even think that's APPROACHING being a debateable subject. 😐
No PIS/CIS, punches from Spider-Man and Ronin's sword were making the crew bleed yet we have seen them take far more damage and were completly fine.
He didn't tear half his face off that is clearly a colouring error that's supposed to be his mask. Pretty clear actually especially since skin doesn't shred like that, hes even shown not wearing his ski mask and the fact he has cloth in his claws from swinging.
Originally posted by jinzin
The Crew has high showings, and most of those too are circumstantial... but the bottem line is that they'll get cut down or crushed by a team like this one. Shhhhit.... C'mon Ironfist punked these guys by himself without even going all out. 😬
and funny here he says he can't even take one member
1. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/IronFist11-AFineDaysDying-05.jpg
2. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/IronFist11-AFineDaysDying-06.jpg
3. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/IronFist11-AFineDaysDying-07.jpg
4. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/IronFist11-AFineDaysDying-08.jpg
5. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/IronFist11-AFineDaysDying-09.jpg
6. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/IronFist11-AFineDaysDying-10.jpg
7. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/IronFist11-AFineDaysDying-11.jpg
8. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/IronFist11-AFineDaysDying-12.jpg
9. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/IronFist11-AFineDaysDying-14.jpg
10. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/IronFist11-AFineDaysDying-15.jpg
11. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/IronFist11-AFineDaysDying-16.jpg
12. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/IronFist11-AFineDaysDying-17.jpg
In the fight your talking about Wrecker wasn't even fighting, and the Crew were taking themselves out. Oh and in Bendis New Avengers which doesn't portray the Crew ideally had Wrecker take a iron fist punch from Iron Fist with a smile.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
To be fair Bendis-Crew is a far cry from their peak.
Ding
Upgrades which are constantly proven to be circumstantial inconsisent or flat out irrelivent...
Sneak attack.. So what?
You think his face isn't being ripped.. that's delusional... All I can even say about it... A coloring error.. and apparently a drawing one too. 🙄
What part of PIS/CIS is Wolverine stabbing the crew?
And please, the entirety of your Herc/thor nonsense is based in PIS/CIS...
Clearly you're being bias here.
So instead he takes on all of them? Not sure what about that was supposed to convince me that this team CAN'T take the Crew. 😕
X team FTW.
