Originally posted by tdazz
Even if this was purely h2h, how does Juggernaut land a ko on Thanos when beings like Odin, Tyrant, Thor with the PG, the Maker, Surfer, Fallen One, etc. couldn't?
These are extemely good points, a battle between these two would most likely result in one of attrition, my question is, will Thanos sustain small amounts of damage over time? Does the Juggernaut have the power to hurt Thanos even a little? If the answer is yes to either question Cain should eventually win this, as I have yet to see Thanos heal himself without outside aid.
Originally posted by Stoic
These are extemely good points, a battle between these two would most likely result in one of attrition, my question is, will Thanos sustain small amounts of damage over time? Does the Juggernaut have the power to hurt Thanos even a little? If the answer is yes to either question Cain should eventually win this, as I have yet to see Thanos heal himself without outside aid.
To be honest I'm not sure if he can heal himself, however he won't have to because if Thor with the PG only gave him a bloody nose, and Odin with Gungir was having trouble keeping him down then Juggy ain't doing squat. IMO h2h still results in Thanos easily removing the helmet and making him his herald. If Juggy decides to use the forcefield that has only appeared twice (in which issues they refer to him as a mutant so take it for what it's worth) then without BFR it's a stalemate because I have just not seen Juggy produce enough damage output to put Thanos down.
Thanos does have healing abilities. To me this comes down to power output, versatility and intelligence. Thanos has no reason to slug it out the whole time. Imo if Thanos doesn't want juggs close juggs won't get close and get blasted non stop. As mentioned previous I fully believe Thanos has the power to remove Cain's helmet for mind rape. He can clearly bfr cain which the thread starter might not have allowed I didn't look. In a h2h battle or actually no matter what Cain would be hard to put down but make no mistake he would get put down.
Can someone post the scan that states that Cain only uses a fraction of the power he could use. Also, he's able to draw more power when he needs to, I think this was mentioned in same story where he got reduced into a skeleton.
Triton Juggernaut was a Juggernaut controlled by the evil force of a different reality. The force utilized Juggernaut's power to a larger extent and was destroying dimensional barriers, just by punching.
I'm gonna say Juggernaut would eventually win.
Originally posted by mrbigguy
Go read the Thor comic where Thor nulls Jugg's ability to call his FF.
I have the issue and I'm sure the scan is somewhere here. Ys it was one punch and Cain helmet was srap.
He knocked it off IIRC his helmet itself wasn't in scraps and even if it was then that was the time Thor sealed off his powers which would break the enchantment on the armor making it normal metal. Thor couldn't damage his armor with Mjolnir so I doubt his fists can do more.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
He knocked it off IIRC his helmet itself wasn't in scraps and even if it was then that was the time Thor sealed off his powers which would break the enchantment on the armor making it normal metal. Thor couldn't damage his armor with Mjolnir so I doubt his fists can do more.
Ugh, fine I will post the scan... READ the issue...
Originally posted by mrbigguy
Ugh, fine I will post the scan... READ the issue...
Oh the one like I said where he sealed off all of his power and made his armor normal metal. Nice scan, but it doesn't count as much as you said seeing as Thor with Mjolnir couldn't hurt his armor during all 3 encounters.
Originally posted by Stoic
I'm not too sure about this because I don't have the comic with me at this address, but didn't Professor Hulk put Cain down with a gut shot? You know when the Red Skull, and Cain were working together?
He didn't KO him but he did knock him down, but I tend to believe that it was jobbing/stupidity seeing as P.Hulk is the weakest version and stronger versions including WWH couldn't knock him down.
Originally posted by Stoic
I'm not too sure about this because I don't have the comic with me at this address, but didn't Professor Hulk put Cain down with a gut shot? You know when the Red Skull, and Cain were working together?
Just knocked his wind out. A psychic backlash put him down for the duration.