Originally posted by Nephthys
Nope. I watched the fight and first the white orbs rain down from the sky, then they disappear and the screen goes black.
Great, that scan still says absorbing. Not absorbed. Therefore it takes her -time- to absorb things.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Taken from the game:'There's only one way to make yourself exist in a world like that! As friends, don't forget one another! As friends, believe in one another! Believe in your friends' existence! And they'll also believe in yours. To be friends, to like one another, and to love one another... You can't do these things alone. You need somebody. Right, guys?.'
Does Sephiroth have any friends handy?
Great, I am sure Sephiroth could summon some friends who love eachother including him.
But Sephiroths will is more tangibal than love and friendship. Why wouldn't that work? Just because none of them thought of it, or were as powerful with it as Sephiroth.
That's all it seems like to me, they are all willing eachother to exist (in the form of belief of eachothers existance) "As friends, believe in one another! Believe in your friends' existence! And they'll also believe in yours.". which is the same as Sephiroth willing himself to exist. Except Sephiroth has already done this twice on his own.
Originally posted by Nephthys
So not only do you need to focus on friends, meaning you actually need friends judging by how its emphasised that you need to do all this 'as friends', but it seems like you need friends to focus on you as well. So..... I guess Sephiroth is out of luck.
Sephiroth makes his own luck.
Originally posted by Nephthys
😕 Are you sure you've played the game. Becuase they're clearly standing on absolutely nothing in the final part of the final fight. Which is what I assume you're talking about becuase thats when she starts absorbing stuff.
Whatever.
Look, Sephiroth can dish out more damaging (Physical and Magical) attacks than all of Ultimecias enemies in FF8, is faster than them and has the ability to create 'friends' almost as powerful as Sqaull, tack on his Will and I think he wins this.
Go ahead and make the same argument against Sephiroth, BUT I'll laugh at you.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
[B]You agree with me, then. She can absorb a Black Hole.[B]
When did she? Oh wait she didn't.
"transformed to absorb all time and space. Absorbing all existence as we speak."
Absorbing != Absorbed, maybe she would have destroyed herself if she absorbed an actual black hole or a sun? We don't quite know because it didn't happen, sure she absorbed some glowing white orbs, which obviously are not suns like some people would try and have you believe or a planet.
Also, Necro. Just because I had a break doesn't mean this should go away. 😄
Originally posted by K1ll3r
When did she? Oh wait she didn't."transformed to absorb all time and space. Absorbing all existence as we speak."
Absorbing != Absorbed, maybe she would have destroyed herself if she absorbed an actual black hole or a sun? We don't quite know because it didn't happen, sure she absorbed some glowing white orbs, which obviously are not suns like some people would try and have you believe or a planet.
Also, Necro. Just because I had a break doesn't mean this should go away. 😄
They are in space, the planet is suddenly gone, you tell me if she wasn't doing anything more than just absorbing 'white orbs' with the scan saying she was absorbing Time, Space and all the existence. 'Cause, yeah... that makes more sense.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Ultimecia absorbed countless stars in the opening of the fight alone.If you think Sephiroth can do anything to her before that happens, then you need to go away.
Rofl, you think Squall and co can survive being that close to a star, or that stars were super tiny?
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
They are in space, the planet is suddenly gone, you tell me if she wasn't doing anything more than just absorbing 'white orbs' with the scan saying she was absorbing Time, Space and all the existence. 'Cause, yeah... that makes more sense.
Time Compressing caused the planet to suddenly disappear.
If she absorbed it like she absorbed those white orbs it would have floated to her slowly, not suddenly disappear.
Just 'cause she was in the process of absorbing doesn't mean she absorbed, as I said show me when a star or planet gets absorbed into her.
Originally posted by K1ll3r1. Well considering that Squall can pack stars and black holes in his pants yes. 🙂
Rofl, you think Squall and co can survive being that close to a star, or that stars were super tiny?Time Compressing caused the planet to suddenly disappear.
If she absorbed it like she absorbed those white orbs it would have floated to her slowly, not suddenly disappear.
Just 'cause she was in the process of absorbing doesn't mean she absorbed, as I said show me when a star or planet gets absorbed into her.
2. Where did the planet and all the stars go then?
Originally posted by K1ll3r
Rofl, you think Squall and co can survive being that close to a star, or that stars were super tiny?Time Compressing caused the planet to suddenly disappear.
If she absorbed it like she absorbed those white orbs it would have floated to her slowly, not suddenly disappear.
Just 'cause she was in the process of absorbing doesn't mean she absorbed, as I said show me when a star or planet gets absorbed into her.
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Those around them are stars. Can you notice how they are quickly being absorbed? Now stfu.
Originally posted by NemeBro
1. Well considering that Squall can pack stars and black holes in his pants yes. 🙂2. Where did the planet and all the stars go then?
1. Mmmm.
2. Time Compression.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
3:17 to 3:25Those around them are stars. Can you notice how they are quickly being absorbed? Now stfu.
So what you are saying is that Squall is bigger than hundreds of stars? That's lulzy.
I'll admit Ultimecia absorbed white floating orbs. Unless you are saying they are hundreds of lightyears away and she never absorbed a single one?
Originally posted by Heythere,Honey
Sephy gets TCed instantly for not having Freendshipz on his side.
I am sure Sephiroths will is greater than people believing that eachother exist, because they are friends.
Originally posted by K1ll3r
So what you are saying is that Squall is bigger than hundreds of stars? That's lulzy.I'll admit Ultimecia absorbed white floating orbs. Unless you are saying they are hundreds of lightyears away and she never absorbed a single one?
No, he isn't. She's absorbing them, thus they are going into her body.
Plus, they are unaffected by any thing she does with absorption via PIS.
Originally posted by K1ll3r
1. Mmmm.2. Time Compression.
So what you are saying is that Squall is bigger than hundreds of stars? That's lulzy.
I'll admit Ultimecia absorbed white floating orbs. Unless you are saying they are hundreds of lightyears away and she never absorbed a single one?
I am sure Sephiroths will is greater than people believing that eachother exist, because they are friends.
I'm positive I read it was stated in the Ultimania that Ultimecia was in the process of absorbing everything during that fight before.
Sephiroth's will just keeps his presence around and affects people and what not.
Friendship survived time compression which pretty much stomps not only what Sephiroth ever did, but what he ever dreamed to do.
Scanning Ulimecia's final form reveals this message:
"Ultimecia, transformed to absorb all time and space."
So she was absorbing everything. Still doesn't mean tiny glowy lights = stars though.
Also to the OP:
Sephiroth loses here but he's sitll a better character than Ultimecia. Spite thread is spiteful.
Originally posted by SpadeKing
I'm positive I read it was stated in the Ultimania that Ultimecia was in the process of absorbing everything during that fight before.
Show me.
Originally posted by SpadeKing
Sephiroth's will just keeps his presence around and affects people and what not.
Sephiroths Will has stopped\held holy, brought him back to life twice, created several beings, taken over the lifestream, held people in place, knocked people around, tortured people.
Originally posted by SpadeKing
Friendship survived time compression which pretty much stomps not only what Sephiroth ever did, but what he ever dreamed to do.
No that just shows how weak TC is against thought\mind power. Very.
Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
Scanning Ulimecia's final form reveals this message:
"Ultimecia, transformed to absorb all time and space."So she was absorbing everything. Still doesn't mean tiny glowy lights = stars though.
I thought this was the quote? "Ultimecia, transformed to absorb all time and space. Absorbing all existence as we speak."
Which is great, when all that exists is a bunch of white glowy things and some people due to TC.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
Is stated she was absorbing, Time, Space, and all existence.So yeah.
Great. But what DID she absorb? Some tiny glowy things. Yes we know she transformed to absorb everything and was in the process of doing it. Too bad it takes her time to do it and it is nullified by some simple thoughts.
Originally posted by NemeBro
It stated that in her final form she was absorbing all time and space.After she achieved this form all the stars in the sky and the planet they were on disappeared.
Two and two together.
Unfortunately dissappearing is not absorbing, as you can see by those tiny glowy things she absorbs, they go to her and get absorbed not suddenly dissappear. 🙄