Originally posted by Starscream M
that scan doesn't prove anythingMy claim is that Logan can lift about 1 ton max...which would be super strength anyways
you also said he was peak-human and not enhances like spiderman or capt.........still can't believe you said that......
Originally posted by Battlehammerwhich is funny because berserker is irrelevant since that's not normal logan
whats even funnier is the fact that all theses feats are with him not berserker.........which is funny becauses he becomes stronger while berseker.
also I would accept it if he actually had 3 feats of 2 tons or more
but the 3 feats you have are very ambiguous...I personally don't accept the underwater feat because it reeks of bad writing. the elevator feat is questionable because we don't know how heavy it is he is actually lifting since the elevator has leverage against the walls.
Originally posted by Starscream M
which is funny because berserker is irrelevant since that's not normal loganalso I would accept it if he actually had 3 feats of 2 tons or more
but the 3 feats you have are very ambiguous...I personally don't accept the underwater feat because it reeks of bad writing. the elevator feat is questionable because we don't know how heavy it is he is actually lifting since the elevator has leverage against the walls.
pleases he lifted a shark out of the water throw it into the boat........and the water was over his head.
he was made to weight several tons and withstood it longer then a veyr very thick floor did
he hit a guy under water so hard they fllew through the water smashing throiugh cement.
he over powed two suphumanly strong foes
destroy restraints that beast could not while in a weaken stated
lift log the size of a tree around like a base ball bat
throw black cat from the ocean into a fly elecopter
throw a dumbster that weighted over 1000 pounds with one arm
ect.
1 or 2 tons doesn't really make a difference when you have Wroth which is comparable to Pitt couldn't kill him what makes you think that Wolverine or Creed can? Even Pitt's father couldn't, Pitt has gone up against most of the top tier fighters of Image and came out on top or stalemated them. Granted this is a different comic company but does show that he has the skill to keep it with the best of them.
Originally posted by Da Pittman
1 or 2 tons doesn't really make a difference when you have Wroth which is comparable to Pitt couldn't kill him what makes you think that Wolverine or Creed can? Even Pitt's father couldn't, Pitt has gone up against most of the top tier fighters of Image and came out on top or stalemated them. Granted this is a different comic company but does show that he has the skill to keep it with the best of them.
It may be a different comic universe, but being able to take a direct hit from a laser cannon as devestating as a nuke with little to no effect is more than enough to show what weight class Pitt is in.
These guys are good and all of that, they just have no business fighting Pitt or anyone like him.
Originally posted by Starscream M
so you think Logan can lift small cars then?
This isn't even getting into all the "unbreakable" restraints he's dismantled through sheer strength and willpower alone.
3 feats to suggest he's close to two tons? Hardly. How about all of your examples where he's had issues lifting something at or below two tons?
Oh that's right, you don't have any. 😐
Originally posted by jinzinI thought you were gone for good. 🙁
Why not? He's single handely tossed a motorcycle like it was a toy. Did the same with a dumpster. He's shoulder pressed a portion of street concrete. He's pushed a car away from him using only his uper body strength while it had been rammed into his legs.This isn't even getting into all the "unbreakable" restraints he's dismantled through sheer strength and willpower alone.
3 feats to suggest he's close to two tons? Hardly. How about all of your examples where he's had issues lifting something at or below two tons?
Oh that's right, you don't have any. 😐
The overall weight wasn't so much the point as much as Wolverine having done it effortlessly with one hand...
Now I give you multiple other examples (Including Wolverine moving a small car, and call you out on your point of view and the best you can do is: A motorcycle is much lighter than a small car..... 😬
Originally posted by jinzin
The overall weight wasn't so much the point as much as Wolverine having done it effortlessly with one hand...Now I give you multiple other examples (Including Wolverine moving a small car, and call you out on your point of view and the best you can do is: A motorcycle is much lighter than a small car..... 😬
There are real people outside of comics that can lift a motorcycle with one hand, and raise it over their head, Nathan Jones to name one. This is not a superhuman feat it is peak human. There are men with the ability to squat the weight of a single car that live among us, this is not a superhuman feat, it is peak human.
Wolverine is peak human, even in our world, however he can take superhuman amounts of punishment, just not on Pitts level, I mean 2-3 solid hits from the Hulk and he has shown to need quite some time to recover, stating that his insides were torn up and such.
Pitt can be beaten but just not by these two.
.........wrong again..........ive even shown you a scan were it states clealry that he superhuman. good lord how many times do I have to provide you evidence.........do you jsut ignore what ever I show you...........pleases there no real live humans that can throw 1000 plus pounds with one arm..........
I can name feat after feat that no human could preform and that is clearly beyond peak-human...........whcih uve been shown before.....but as usual it seems you ignore it..........
Originally posted by StoicWithout effort? No....
There are real people outside of comics that can lift a motorcycle with one hand, and raise it over their head, Nathan Jones to name one. This is not a superhuman feat it is peak human. There are men with the ability to squat the weight of a single car that live among us, this is not a superhuman feat, it is peak human.
Originally posted by StoicNow you're just being rampantly ignorant. No peak human can punch people like Roughouse, Rogue and Arkon through loops with "peak human" strength. No "peak human" is going to break bonds that bond other well known superhuman level beings. Or overpower them for that matter. Both of which Wolverine has done with brute strength.
Wolverine is peak human, even in our world,
Originally posted by StoicThis has nothing to do with what I was talking about to I'm ignoring this. I agree btw.
however he can take superhuman amounts of punishment, just not on Pitts level, I mean 2-3 solid hits from the Hulk and he has shown to need quite some time to recover, stating that his insides were torn up and such.Pitt can be beaten but just not by these two.
Originally posted by jinzin
Without effort? No....Now you're just being rampantly ignorant. No peak human can punch people like Roughouse, Rogue and Arkon through loops with "peak human" strength. No "peak human" is going to break bonds that bond other well known superhuman level beings. Or overpower them for that matter. Both of which Wolverine has done with brute strength.
Wolverine isn't even listed as a peak human by Marvel and hasn't been for some time now.This has nothing to do with what I was talking about to I'm ignoring this. I agree btw.
Lifting feats is what I was talking about not fighting skills, Wolverine has bones that are laced with an indestructible substance, of course he hits harder than regular a man, or even the strongest man in our world.
Lifting feats... I never once said anything about fighting prowess, please don't put words in my mouth.
Wolverine without claws is a weapon alone, and with his skleton and healing powers he'd be able to punch throgh solid stone. Again I said lifting feats and the worlds strongest men can lift the things that you brought up earlier.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
.........wrong again..........ive even shown you a scan were it states clealry that he superhuman. good lord how many times do I have to provide you evidence.........do you jsut ignore what ever I show you...........pleases there no real live humans that can throw 1000 plus pounds with one arm..........I can name feat after feat that no human could preform and that is clearly beyond peak-human...........whcih uve been shown before.....but as usual it seems you ignore it..........
Good lord all the hell you want, the scan that you provided was from a non canon source, it was a scan of Marvel vs DC Wolverine, and that Wolverine was able to beat Lobo, who was able to nearly kill Superman. Stop the deceit.
Originally posted by StoicGood lord all the hell you want, the scan that you provided was from a non canon source, it was a scan of Marvel vs DC Wolverine, and that Wolverine was able to beat Lobo, who was able to nearly kill Superman. Stop the deceit.
nothing inlegitment about Logans listings.