Pitt vs. Wolverine and Sabertooth

Started by Stoic6 pages

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Forget it I had to get this because you seem to be suffering from selective amnesia.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
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Originally posted by Battlehammer
oh it cannon alright. Mavrel and DC is cannon. Oh and Lobo stated in a cannon sources that he took the fall.

nothing inlegitment about Logans listings.

It was cannon was it, even though it was fan voted? I'm not even going to go there with you. You have some nerve calling someone an idiot when you bring trash to the table like this.

One of the arguements on here that confuses me is the "has Wolverine got enhanced or superhuman strength" question. I thought they were the same thing. Marvel has always classified 800lbs as being the maximum a human could lift, and anyone who can heavier is classified as superstrong. If there is a distinction what is the upper limit for "enhanced" strength?

I don't think there is a "rule" but I would say if you double the normal lift weight for a human at 800 to 1600 that would be in the enhanced range. Anything above would be super human.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
I don't think there is a "rule" but I would say if you double the normal lift weight for a human at 800 to 1600 that would be in the enhanced range. Anything above would be super human.

Yup, that's what Marvel says anyway.

Thanks

Well I was going by what the first official handbook said that Wolverine was, and it said that he had peak human strength, and not superhuman strength.

Originally posted by Stoic
I stated that the original bio on Wolverine (you know the first one ever written) stated that Wolverine was peak human, perhaps you missed that part which does not surprise me.

But see it does not stated that. Please show a scan, because I know that’s not what it states I own it. The word peak-human is not shown anywere within his section.

Originally posted by Stoic
Do you think that insulting me makes you seem superior to anyone? If anything its pathetic, and as I stated earlier the points you brought up had nothing to do with this thread, and one more thing, don't pretend to know me.

No I look superior regardless. You ignoring evidences, providing none your self makes you look moronic and pathetic.

Originally posted by Stoic
scan was of you trying to prove that he had super strength, when it was a scan from Marvel vs DC... don't play stupid because you did use a scan from Marvel vs DC, a fan voted crock of shyt that placed Wolverine on Lobo's level when he isn't.
Should i go and get it?

I said numerous times it from Marvel vs DC. However it is cannon. WTF don’t you understand? Also the bio were created by marvel and DC writers they were not fan voted. And lobo admitted to taking a dive.

Originally posted by Stoic
Well I was going by what the first official handbook said that Wolverine was, and it said that he had peak human strength, and not superhuman strength.

First your basing your entire argument off a bio? The same bio’s that marvel had to redue due to beign so inaccurate………naw how smart.

Not to mention you can’t even correctly get the wording that was stated in the hand book.

This is getting sad.

I provided three sources that state or prove wolverine not peak-human………three comic book sources………….and all you have is a bio which contradicts all his feats at the time, even condrodicts the creator original intent……….and you are not even getting the wording right.

So you ignore my evidences………and provide non your self how typical, same reason I have zero respect for you.

actaully currently enhanced means superhuman which is why in the civil war files ever single superhuman is listed as enhanced. There no seperate listings anymore.

Battlehammer are you getting pedantic with me about wording and grammar? Yes I make mistakes, this is not hard to admit, we all do.

I can admit that I was wrong about Wolverine and his strength level, do I believe that he can lift a bus and toss it like Spiderman can? Not really, but I can accept that he is stronger than a man in many more ways than just one.

As I pointed out before I really don't care how you feel about me, and it has nothing to do with this thread, Bada issued a word of advice earlier today about bashing and flaming, so if you don't stick to the facts that your boy Wolverine, and his buddy Victor Creed will not win even one fight against Pitt you really have nothing to say here.

If you continue going off topic you will be reported.

So who wins here Battlehammer, that is all that anyone needs to know.

Logan is about a 1+ tonner now.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
actaully currently enhanced means superhuman which is why in the civil war files ever single superhuman is listed as enhanced. There no seperate listings anymore.

Actually Wonderman, and Carol Danvers were listed as having enhanced strength, while the Sentry was listed as having super strength. Still this has nothing to do with this thread, and Pitt will walk all over these guys with ease. I can even go as far to say that they wouldn't even be able to slow him down or hurt him.

Originally posted by Stoic

So who wins here Battlehammer, that is all that anyone needs to know.

PITT

Originally posted by Badabing
Logan is about a 1+ tonner now.
what has he done lately to make you think that?

Originally posted by Stoic
Actually Wonderman, and Carol Danvers were listed as having enhanced strength, while the Sentry was listed as having super strength.

everyone was listed as enhanced human that was superhuman.

wondermans almost a class 100 and carol danvers is a class 50+

which is why I think the word to marvel is currently intergantable

I'm not trying to make a claim one way or the other in regards to whether or not Wolverine actually has super strength, but isn't whether or not someone is super strong determined by their body weight? If an 80 lb. child can lift 500 pounds over his head, then doesn't it qualify as super strength even though there are more athletically gifted that can do the same thing?

I've always been under the impression that being able to lift over 4 times your body weight qualifies as super strength. Now if Wolverine only weighed 195 lbs and was only able to lift 800 lbs it would still qualify as super strength IMO because he's still lifting over 4 times his own weight.

I don't think it matter in the comci world how much one ways.

he 300 pounds with his adamatium

Originally posted by Battlehammer
everyone was listed as enhanced human that was superhuman.

wondermans almost a class 100 and carol danvers is a class 50+

which is why I think the word to marvel is currently intergantable

I'm going on what was written in a recent Avengers comic, Sentry was stated to have super strength, while Carol Danvers, and Simon Williams was said to have enhanced strength. I took it as anyone beneath class 100 but above class 1 was in the enhanced strength range... again what does this have to do with this thread? I just don't understand you... you seem to just want conflict with me by being contrary. You want the last word? go for it, just know that Pitt would win this, and that these guys are as much a match for Pitt as Dardevil is a match to Namor.

Originally posted by Stoic
I'm going on what was written in a recent Avengers comic, Sentry was stated to have super strength, while Carol Danvers, and Simon Williams was said to have enhanced strength. I took it as anyone beneath class 100 but above class 1 was in the enhanced strength range.

interesting. hey which issue was it I like to read it. I migth even own it seems farmiliar.

I actaully think that theory very good and makes senses

Originally posted by Stoic
.. again what does this have to do with this thread? I just don't understand you... you seem to just want conflict with me by being contrary. You want the last word?.

oh i was no trying to conflict with out I was trying to understand ypur deff. of superhuman and try to explain that I believe the term superhuman and enhanced are currently one in the same in marvels eyes.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm not trying to make a claim one way or the other in regards to whether or not Wolverine actually has super strength, but isn't whether or not someone is super strong determined by their body weight? If an 80 lb. child can lift 500 pounds over his head, then doesn't it qualify as super strength even though there are more athletically gifted that can do the same thing?

I've always been under the impression that being able to lift over 4 times your body weight qualifies as super strength. Now if Wolverine only weighed 195 lbs and was only able to lift 800 lbs it would still qualify as super strength IMO because he's still lifting over 4 times his own weight.

You are completely right, but there are men that live on our planet, that can lift nearly 8 times their body weight, Nathan Jones has done it in his prime. There are men that tow buses, I don't know if I would call these guys superhuman, one man was said to even be able to tow a 747 plane by pulling on rope and advancing. I guess that these things are subjective.