so are you gunna ignore that post as well? do I gotta start psoting all his strength feats the easily put him over peak-human?
or shoudl i not bother becuase you will ignore them as well?
oh here a recent strength feat...........
http://s233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/?action=view¤t=Wolverine_First_Class_08_017.jpg
Originally posted by StoicI'm not talking about fighting skills. I'm talking about brute strength. Wolverine has feats with brute strength that are heads and shoulders above what any real world human can do. NO human being on the face of the planet can not only lift but throw a dumpster 10 feet through the air without effort PERIOD. To say Wolverine is peak human is downright ignorant, there's no if's ands or buts about it.
Lifting feats is what I was talking about not fighting skills,
You're retort wasn't well constructed. Because other bigger guys have done the low end feats that Wolverine's done without effort WITH effort that somehow makes Wolverine peak human? NO... that's rediculous.
Originally posted by StoicHaving Adamantium bones doesn't make him hit more powerfully though. Rough? Roughouse? both bricks sent flying through brickwalls, airborne by Wolverine's brute power. He's kicked in steel doors with one hit off their hinges. His stopping power is CLEARLY backed with superhuman levels of strength.
Wolverine has bones that are laced with an indestructible substance, of course he hits harder than regular a man, or even the strongest man in our world.
Originally posted by Stoic🤨 "prowess" has nothing to do with sending other bricks flying.
Lifting feats... I never once said anything about fighting prowess, please don't put words in my mouth..
Originally posted by Stoicbut not as effortlessly as Wolverine so your examples don't matter anyways, and you were comparing them to Logan's lowest feats. Stopping power wasn't even the only thing I commented on either. How about the fact that Wolverine's overpowered other superhumans or broke through restraints other superhumans couldn't?
Wolverine without claws is a weapon alone, and with his skleton and healing powers he'd be able to punch throgh solid stone. Again I said lifting feats and the worlds strongest men can lift the things that you brought up earlier.
Originally posted by StoicWHAT THE **** DID I SAY?
Good lord all the hell you want, the scan that you provided was from a non canon source, it was a scan of Marvel vs DC Wolverine, and that Wolverine was able to beat Lobo, who was able to nearly kill Superman. Stop the deceit.
not marvel vs. dc..
MARVEL you know the guys in charge of handling these characters?
MARVEL has Wolverine listed in a SUPERHUMAN strength class category and it's been stated on panel as Hammer told you.
And if you knew anything about what you were talking about you would know the crossover has been referenced in DC and marvel AND Lobo was paid to take a dive for the fight.
Ursa Major weighs less than some motorcycles, the Thing weighs more than him there are men on this planet able to tow 8 buses, or a 747 plane. Wolerines durability helps him with many of his strength feats.
Wolverine would be lucky if he could even lift Pitt, but this thread has obviously gone off subject, as we are now talking about Wolverine having trouble lifting something that Pitt could crush into a ball and use as a bowling ball.
Pitt, the Hulk, Juggernaut, Lobo, Superman, Sentry, Gladiator, Supreme, Thor, Hercules, Wonder Woman, these characters have super strength. Sabretooth and perhaps Wolverine have enhanced strength... I'd give Wolverine a maybe on that too because many of his feats are durability feats, and high pain threshold feats. I howwever can accept Wolverine having enhanced strength... Super strength??? No way in hell.
Originally posted by StoicLucky IF he could even lift Pitt?
Ursa Major weighs less than some motorcycles, the Thing weighs more than him there are men on this planet able to tow 8 buses, or a 747 plane. Wolerines durability helps him with many of his strength feats.Wolverine would be lucky if he could even lift Pitt, but this thread has obviously gone off subject, as we are now talking about Wolverine having trouble lifting something that Pitt could crush into a ball and use as a bowling ball.
Pitt, the Hulk, Juggernaut, Lobo, Superman, Sentry, Gladiator, Supreme, Thor, Hercules, Wonder Woman, these characters have super strength. Sabretooth and perhaps Wolverine have enhanced strength... I'd give Wolverine a maybe on that too because many of his feats are durability feats, and high pain threshold feats. I howwever can accept Wolverine having enhanced strength... Super strength??? No way in hell.
ENHANCED? Sabretooth's more powerful than a bull elephant.
Funny how you can't accept it but Marvel can. I think I'll take Marvel's word over yours.
Originally posted by Stoic
Ursa Major weighs less than some motorcycles, the Thing weighs more than him there are men on this planet able to tow 8 buses, or a 747 plane. Wolerines durability helps him with many of his strength feats.Wolverine would be lucky if he could even lift Pitt, but this thread has obviously gone off subject, as we are now talking about Wolverine having trouble lifting something that Pitt could crush into a ball and use as a bowling ball.
Pitt, the Hulk, Juggernaut, Lobo, Superman, Sentry, Gladiator, Supreme, Thor, Hercules, Wonder Woman, these characters have super strength. Sabretooth and perhaps Wolverine have enhanced strength... I'd give Wolverine a maybe on that too because many of his feats are durability feats, and high pain threshold feats. I howwever can accept Wolverine having enhanced strength... Super strength??? No way in hell.
did you not see wolverine break out of Ursa Major bear hug..........who superhuman..........or did you just ignore it? or did you some how miss wolverine punching a man and sending him flying like 30 plus feet...............oh and Ursa Major woudl likly weight 1000 pounds easy.........and logon tossed him like a ragg doll...........
are you serously ignoring all the evidences I am presenting? hoenstly this is getting pathetic.
Originally posted by jinzin
I'm not talking about fighting skills. I'm talking about brute strength. Wolverine has feats with brute strength that are heads and shoulders above what any real world human can do. NO human being on the face of the planet can not only lift but throw a dumpster 10 feet through the air without effort PERIOD. To say Wolverine is peak human is downright ignorant, there's no if's ands or buts about it.You're retort wasn't well constructed. Because other bigger guys have done the low end feats that Wolverine's done without effort WITH effort that somehow makes Wolverine peak human? NO... that's rediculous.
Having Adamantium bones doesn't make him hit more powerfully though. Rough? Roughouse? both bricks sent flying through brickwalls, airborne by Wolverine's brute power. He's kicked in steel doors with one hit off their hinges. His stopping power is CLEARLY backed with superhuman levels of strength.
🤨 "prowess" has nothing to do with sending other bricks flying.
but not as effortlessly as Wolverine so your examples don't matter anyways, and you were comparing them to Logan's lowest feats. Stopping power wasn't even the only thing I commented on either. How about the fact that Wolverine's overpowered other superhumans or broke through restraints other superhumans couldn't?
WHAT THE **** DID I SAY?
MARVELnot marvel vs. dc..
MARVEL you know the guys in charge of handling these characters?
MARVEL has Wolverine listed in a SUPERHUMAN strength class category and it's been stated on panel as Hammer told you.
And if you knew anything about what you were talking about you would know the crossover has been referenced in DC and marvel AND Lobo was paid to take a dive for the fight.
The durability of Wolverines body cleary shows that he can use all of his strength while delivering a punch... hell if a normal man had bones that strong punching in windshield would be easy, as we would not have to worry about breaking our hands.
Wolverine would also appear to be stronger than the average human as well because his bones would not fracture under the weight that a normal mans would. This however is a feat of durability. There was a showing with two regular men in our world that were able to lift a semi 2 inches off of the ground and hold it for several seconds... 2 men. If Wolverine has enhanced strength it is borderline at best. At yes even without his claws he is a weapon, he can certainly generate a more solid punch than any real person on earth, and that's simply due to the strength of his bones.
I love how your ignoring evdiences how awosome............and trolling even better.............
so first you ignore scan that says wolverine has superhuman strength, then you ignore the scan that says he has enhanced strength........then you ignore a scan that provides 3 superhuman strength feats in one..............how awosome.......and you called me a troll........
Originally posted by Stoicthis statement isn't even coherent.
The durability of Wolverines body cleary shows that he can use all of his strength while delivering a punch...
Originally posted by StoicYou're ignoring what I'm talking about...
hell if a normal man had bones that strong punching in windshield would be easy, as we would not have to worry about breaking our hands.
Wolverine's durability doesn't explain how he sends people flying multitudes of feet through the air.. ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE BRICKS!
Originally posted by StoicHammers right 😐
Wolverine would also appear to be stronger than the average human as well because his bones would not fracture under the weight that a normal mans would. This however is a feat of durability. There was a showing with two regular men in our world that were able to lift a semi 2 inches off of the ground and hold it for several seconds... 2 men. If Wolverine has enhanced strength it is borderline at best. At yes even without his claws he is a weapon, he can certainly generate a more solid punch than any real person on earth, and that's simply due to the strength of his bones.
You're just ignoring the actual argument in favor of a strawman....
have fun with that.
Wolverine was bone clawed in several of his high end feats.. Adamantium is not a substitute for strength. Marvel says he's superhuman, Marvel SHOWS he's superhuman... He's SUPERHUMAN...
I suppose you know many people who can casually leap 40 feet into the air. 🙄
Originally posted by Battlehammer
are you retarded? for startersI show two scans one that states he has superhuman strength another that states he has ehenced strength.............it not debatbale he has i nhuman strength.did you not see wolverine break out of Ursa Major bear hug..........who superhuman..........or did you just ignore it? or did you some how miss wolverine punching a man and sending him flying like 30 plus feet...............oh and Ursa Major woudl likly weight 1000 pounds easy.........and logon tossed him like a ragg doll...........
are you serously ignoring all the evidences I am presenting? hoenstly this is getting pathetic.
I agree with some of what you said but it was circumstantial, as I said before Wolverine being able to break out of the bearhug (no pun intended) had alot to do with his durability and fighting skills. This however has nothing to do with this thread, I know what side wins this and that's all I have to say about this whole thing.
Originally posted by Stoic
I agree with some of what you said but it was circumstantial, as I said before Wolverine being able to break out of the bearhug (no pun intended) had alot to do with his durability and fighting skills. This however has nothing to do with this thread, I know what side wins this and that's all I have to say about this whole thing.
good lord your rediculous. I am blocking you now becuases your ignorances and refusal to achknowledge feats and on pannel evidences is rediculous..
I think I actaully have more respect for masterbruce then for you
Originally posted by Battlehammer
edit he not worth it. ignorances is bliss I guess.
Does it look like I care about what you think of me? You have such a hard time with your favorite hero getting beat that you have stretched this thread into something that it should have never been... going off topic, chasing trivial nonsense to make excuses, and generally avoiding the fact that Creed and his little friend should have never been put in a vs thread against Pitt. And you argue about the little weight that he can lift??? Before I know it Wolverine will go from lifting a small car to being able to support buildings. So ok I concede Marvel gave Wolverine an upgrade by hiring fanboys to write him and add a little CIS to the mix. His original stats said that he was peak human strength that engage in strenuous regular excercise, not that he had super human strength... as i said before who gives a fig... this little extra wil not change the fact that the both of them are under powered here.
Originally posted by StoicOriginal stats? His ORIGINAL FEATS were SUPERHUMAN STILL!
Does it look like I care about what you think of me? You have such a hard time with your favorite hero getting beat that you have stretched this thread into something that it should have never been... going off topic, chasing trivial nonsense to make excuses, and generally avoiding the fact that Creed and his little friend should have never been put in a vs thread against Pitt. And you argue about the little weight that he can lift??? Before I know it Wolverine will go from lifting a small car to being able to support buildings. So ok I concede Marvel gave Wolverine an upgrade by hiring fanboys to write him and add a little CIS to the mix. His original stats said that he was peak human strength that engage in strenuous regular excercise, not that he had super human strength... as i said before who gives a fig... this little extra wil not change the fact that the both of them are under powered here.
Originally posted by StoicHe had Wolverine in a bear hug arms pinned...
One Thing HOW??? The same way that he was able to outmaneuver Rogue and put her down as they grappled, strength isn't everything. How is Batman able to throw Solomon Grundy? Or Captain America throw the Hulk?
Wolverine just broke free... And major didn't say it was due to any slick moves he specifically states that it's wolverine's STRENGTH. 😐
Originally posted by Stoic
Does it look like I care about what you think of me? You have such a hard time with your favorite hero getting beat that you have stretched this thread into something that it should have never been... going off topic, chasing trivial nonsense to make excuses, and generally avoiding the fact that Creed and his little friend should have never been put in a vs thread against Pitt.
oh pitt wins there no arguement there.
and your still an ignorant individual.
Originally posted by Stoic
His original stats said that he was peak human strength that engage in strenuous regular excercise, not that he had super human strength...
he orignal was writtin with spiderman level stats stated in an interview with the creator in the back of the ulitmate x-men guide up dated edition.
oh and Logan broke within his first five apearences shackles consider to be unbreabkle...........in his first mini's he was throwing sharks, running straight through rock walls with out pause ect.
so you could not any any wronger. Logan actaully was only stated as peak-human in a single source which was an encyclopedia inwhich in controdicted other encyclopedia which stated him as enhanced. Oh and Logan has never onces on pannel been stated with human or peak human strength, he eben stated with enhanced, superhuman, special, extreme strength ect.
It specifically states the strength of his madness, not his strength.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
oh pitt wins there no arguement there.and your still an ignorant individual.
whats funny is how wrong you can be.
he orignal was writtin with spiderman level stats stated in an interview with the creator in the back of the ulitmate x-men guide up dated edition.
oh and Logan broke within his first five apearences shackles consider to be unbreabkle...........in his first mini's he was throwing sharks, running straight through rock walls with out pause ect.
so you could not any any wronger. Logan actaully was only stated as peak-human in a single source which was an encyclopedia inwhich in controdicted other encyclopedia which stated him as enhanced. Oh and Logan has never onces on pannel been stated with human or peak human strength, he eben stated with enhanced, superhuman, special, extreme strength ect.
Your telling me I'm wrong and in the same sentence try to convince me that Wolverines original stats were updated in the Ultimates, a new book.... please just stop ok.... do you want me to say that Wolverine beats Pitt? is that what this is about, and why you won't stop the deceit? I'm done with this thread, how it got as far as it did is beyond me. Before calling people ignorant you should check your own mirrow, I mean you show non canon material in an attempt to place Wolverine on levels that he was never written on (Marvel vs DC scan), and then proceed to tell me that Wolverines first bio did not state that he was classified as peak human strength... just put me on ignore.
Originally posted by Stoic
It specifically states the strength of his madness, not his strength.
Originally posted by Stoic
Your telling me I'm wrong and in the same sentence try to convince me that Wolverines original stats were updated in the Ultimates, a new book.... please just stop ok..
“The Ultimate X-men Guide updated” is a massive book about all the x-men it not new. It been out for years. In an interview in the back of the book the creator of wolverine states the original intent for his character was to have spiderman level stats.
I have no idea what the babble you are saying above has to do with anything.
Originally posted by Stoic
..is that what this is about, and why you won't stop the deceit? I'm done with this thrad, how it got as far as it did is beyond me. Before calling people ignorant you should check your own mirrow, I mean you show non canon material in an attempt to place Wolverine on levels that he was never written on (Marvel vs DC scan), and then proceed to tell me that Wolverines forst bio did not state that he was classified as peak human strength... just put me on ignore.
Marvel vs DC is cannon………wtf don’t you understand?
No Logan was never classified as peak-human in his first bio. Hell your only evidences is a bio…….and your not even stating what was in it correctly. This is getting sad. Not only are bio the shittiest form of evidences, but you can’t even recall what was actually stated in the bio correctly.
SO you have ignore three scans that prove logan is beyond peak-human and all you have as an argument is that in his first bio he stated as “peak-human” which is not even correct………..and even if it was it contradicts all the feats prior and during the creation of that hand-book………..and almost every single character original handbook apearences was later alter and updated……
Battlehammer, you still have no idea what this thread about do you? Well here's a hint, it's not about your trivial matters on how much Wolverine can lift, I stated that the original bio on Wolverine (you know the first one ever written) stated that Wolverine was peak human, perhaps you missed that part which does not surprise me.
Do you think that insulting me makes you seem superior to anyone? If anything its pathetic, and as I stated earlier the points you brought up had nothing to do with this thread, and one more thing, don't pretend to know me.
Ok Wolverine is above peak human are you satisfied? Now you can move on with your life, does he have super strength no he does not. Sentry has super strength. Your first scan was of you trying to prove that he had super strength, when it was a scan from Marvel vs DC... don't play stupid because you did use a scan from Marvel vs DC, a fan voted crock of shyt that placed Wolverine on Lobo's level when he isn't.
Should i go and get it?
