Superman, Orion, Gladiator and Hal Jordan vs Thor, BRB, Black Adam and Captain Marvel

Started by Raoul10 pages

Originally posted by kgkg
I mean you will be more biased for the characters that are on your Sig(your fav characters). Not always the case

It's not always true but I find there is a strong correctional with the two doesn't mean it's wrong to support "your character" my any means 😉

lets take quanchi112 for example "thanos is god" 😄

So in my theory you would be more supportive of superman than not and some could see this as Bias from there point of view.

I think i drank to much 🙂

it's possible you did... what did you have?

Originally posted by Raoul
i really don't see how that makes a difference.

the magic thing just isn't that big of an advantage, imo...

Im just saying that you are a huge Superman fan. Most if not all are biased to varying degrees.

The magic thing is an advantage though.

Originally posted by Badabing
Quan, give it a rest. You're a Thanos fan bordering on obsession. Shall we throw that in your face every time you debate for Thanos. Raoul has never given Supes too much credit and he also doesn't try to low ball feats either. Just because someone has a character in their sig doesn't make them biased.
We are all biased in some respects bada. You captain fanboy. 😛

I think Supes could hang with Marvel and Adam. Wielding magic is an advantage when going up against Clark, but unlike someone like Thor where it tips the scale in his favor, I think for Cap it's what allows him to stand on equal ground. I wouldn't count Clark out in either of those match-ups. The hammer brothers are another story but there are 3 other teammates that could go against them.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Im just saying that you are a huge Superman fan. Most if not all are biased to varying degrees.

i'm not biased to the point that i'd say he wins against people he wouldn't, though...

Originally posted by Raoul
i'm not biased to the point that i'd say he wins against people he wouldn't, though...
Im not saying your a fanboy but I think you might give him a win over an evenly matched opponent. Some might even say I do that from time to time.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Im not saying your a fanboy but I think you might give him a win over an evenly matched opponent. Some might even say I do that from time to time.

if they're evenly matched, they're evenly matched, but how many characters are truly even rather than just being comparable?

team 2 for the a big majority

Gladiator's the weak link here, though not by a ton, and there's too much magic for Superman not to be boned. I've also always maintained that GLs would be screwed against incalculable energy absorbers like Thor and Bill.

Team 1 7/10
Supes & Glads Being the strongest Characters on their side fight should go toe to toe with BA and CM. They all use speed so I assume when they see Supes and Glads flying at them at super speed and they meet up with the BA and CM who prob will be going them at similar speeds they will decide to fight eachother since they proable meet 1st. No matter how you mix match the fight between the 2 on 2 Supes and Glads should come out on top. There is nothing BA or CM has shown to outclass either supes of Glads (especially glads 😊 )

Orion can hold off Thor and Hal can distract BRB until Supes and Glads comes back for the stomp on Thor and BRB. I could see BRB or Thor actually beating the Orion and Hal but if that happens. Glads can definitely tangle up thor for quite a while since they both fought each other a few times and each one has taken a some wins. Supes imo can dispatch BRB. So then Supes will be able to help put away Thor.

Originally posted by Raoul
if they're evenly matched, they're evenly matched, but how many characters are truly even rather than just being comparable?
Black Adam and Superman are pretty evenly matched when there fists start flying. Both are invulnerable and both pack a whallop.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Black Adam and Superman are pretty evenly matched when there fists start flying. Both are invulnerable and both pack a whallop.

yes, they're reasonably evenly matched, but truly equal in strength, speed and durability? no, imo. comparable, sure, but bang on equal? not imo...

Originally posted by Raoul
pot, kettle? ha-son

he has comparable strength feats, imo. i would say thor is probably the most versatile (even if compared with hal, its arguable imo), but if he was that overly powerful, guys like orion and superman wouldnt give him the trouble they most likely would...

bloodlust is on. just because he chooses to be a pacifist more often than not doesn't mean he's incapable of putting people down when he needs to. Just look at dd rex, or imperiex, or manchester black's elite.

You said it yourself comparable "Strength" feats.

Supes and orion are 1 dimensional. Thor with the odin force literally demolishes anyone on the other team. If supes wants a chance he better go sundipping.

Look i respect everyones opinion on theses boards. But i just get tired of hearing about how PHYSICALLY hes stronger.

It dont matter, thor BRB cap and ba are fairly close to him in strength especially BA and cap. BRB and thor mabey not quite physically as strong. But their maical abilities well prolly over welm him.

Im not saying supes team cant win. But they are going to have to work their asses off for a win here.

superman vs captian marvel = stalemate could go either way

orion vs black adam = i honestly dont konw on this one

green lantern vs thor = classic thor could win this version of thor destroys GL and anyone els on the oposing team.

Glads vs BRB = BRb could win depending on glads level of confidence. Id give the edge to glads.

Im going with thors team.

Originally posted by Raoul
if he is, then yes, thor has more bang for his buck, but that's picking and choosing, imo...

cyclops has more power output than wolverine, but cyclops can't survive a bullet to the head...

Incorrect. Cyclops shoots a lazer from his eye. thats on dimensional like supes. Thor is a physical power house has incredible magical abilities the odin force and his hammer. Cyclops and wolverine were a bad example =(

Originally posted by Raoul
i wouldn't argue that it would be close... i just see supes winning against adam if he really was up against the wall...

because i could turn around and say something like 'well superman is physically stronger/faster/more durable'

if you want to talk about pure power, then sure, thor would have the advantage, but superman has enough in other areas to be his equal, and imo, his superior...

I agree i think supes would be able to beat adam.

But hes going to have to be willing to kill him.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Team 1 7/10
Supes & Glads Being the strongest Characters on their side fight should go toe to toe with BA and CM. They all use speed so I assume when they see Supes and Glads flying at them at super speed and they meet up with the BA and CM who prob will be going them at similar speeds they will decide to fight eachother since they proable meet 1st. No matter how you mix match the fight between the 2 on 2 Supes and Glads should come out on top. There is nothing BA or CM has shown to outclass either supes of Glads (especially glads 😊 )

Orion can hold off Thor and Hal can distract BRB until Supes and Glads comes back for the stomp on Thor and BRB. I could see BRB or Thor actually beating the Orion and Hal but if that happens. Glads can definitely tangle up thor for quite a while since they both fought each other a few times and each one has taken a some wins. Supes imo can dispatch BRB. So then Supes will be able to help put away Thor.

sorry bro orion physically > glads any day of the weak physically , orion can shit stomp supes if need be and has.

Originally posted by zeel
You said it yourself comparable "Strength" feats.

Supes and orion are 1 dimensional. Thor with the odin force literally demolishes anyone on the other team. If supes wants a chance he better go sundipping.

Look i respect everyones opinion on theses boards. But i just get tired of hearing about how PHYSICALLY hes stronger.

It dont matter, thor BRB cap and ba are fairly close to him in strength especially BA and cap. BRB and thor mabey not quite physically as strong. But their maical abilities well prolly over welm him.

Im not saying supes team cant win. But they are going to have to work their asses off for a win here.

superman vs captian marvel = stalemate could go either way

orion vs black adam = i honestly dont konw on this one

green lantern vs thor = classic thor could win this version of thor destroys GL and anyone els on the oposing team.

Glads vs BRB = BRb could win depending on glads level of confidence. Id give the edge to glads.

Im going with thors team.

you don't believe speed and strength are a factor?

Originally posted by zeel
Incorrect. Cyclops shoots a lazer from his eye. thats on dimensional like supes. Thor is a physical power house has incredible magical abilities the odin force and his hammer. Cyclops and wolverine were a bad example =(

it was just an example, thats all, to illustrate that 'more powerful' needs to be clarified or else its just a vague term...

Originally posted by Raoul
yes, they're reasonably evenly matched, but truly equal in strength, speed and durability? no, imo. comparable, sure, but bang on equal? not imo...
They are very close imo. Its opinion based either way,but you have to admit its pretty darn close.
Originally posted by Raoul
you don't believe speed and strength are a factor?

it was just an example, thats all, to illustrate that 'more powerful' needs to be clarified or else its just a vague term...

Strength is very close. Supes has him in it and I dont think Supes would use his speed. He may,but it wouldnt guarantee him the win imo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]They are very close imo. Its opinion based either way,but you have to admit its pretty darn close.

of course, i'd never say they weren't...

Strength is very close. Supes has him in it and I dont think Supes would use his speed. He may,but it wouldnt guarantee him the win imo.

supes has used speed when he's come up against foes he knows he can't punch out. if he's having trouble with thor, he's bound to try it sooner or later imo...

Originally posted by zeel
sorry bro orion physically > glads any day of the weak physically , orion can shit stomp supes if need be and has.

Really I knew Supes and Orion was close and supes was like a tiniest of touches greater than Orion. My Mistakes. But IMHO I think Glads is more powerful than Supes and Orion. But lets not talk about that. Anyway still team 1.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Magic will spell doom for Supes.

What a dumb thing to say. Seriously...