Originally posted by Bada's Palin
It wasn't JUST heatvision.
And I never said it was... read my original statement again...
Originally posted by Avlon
Correction. A lot of kryptonians using HV and other attacks killed him.
Lots of kryptonians>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thor.
For those of you who can't read.
And anyone who truly believes that a godblast is > the energy output of 10+ kryptonians is either delusional or a fool.
Originally posted by Bada's Palin
Oh yeah, sure.Kryptonians have such amazing energy output.
I think he means overall power, not just energy projection.
Example: According to DC, Supes is the most powerful person on the planet. 10 Kryptonians would be roughly 10x as powerful as Supes.
So by saying that the Godblast is greater than 10 Kryptonians, you are saying that Thor's one attack is at least 10x more powerful than anything or anyone on DC Earth.
That seems to be the basis for Avlon's argument and I think he has a point...
Originally posted by Eel O'Brien
I think he means overall power, not just energy projection.Example: According to DC, Supes is the most powerful person on the planet. 10 Kryptionians would be roughly 10x as powerful as Supes.
So by saying that the Godblast is greater than 10 Kryptionians, you are saying that Thor's one attack is at least 10x more powerful than anything or anyone on DC Earth.
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Originally posted by Eel O'Brien
I think he means overall power, not just energy projection.Example: According to DC, Supes is the most powerful person on the planet. 10 Kryptonians would be roughly 10x as powerful as Supes.
So by saying that the Godblast is greater than 10 Kryptonians, you are saying that Thor's one attack is at least 10x more powerful than anything or anyone on DC Earth.
That seems to be the basis for Avlon's argument and I think he has a point...
Thors godblast has done some awesome things on awesome levels.
Scared off Galactus.
Cracked the dome of Exitar iirc.
Wasted Durok.
Stopped the momentum of Juggernaut.
It's not his regular energy blasts, but the summoning of his godly essence.
The closest thing i can relate it to in DC is a portion of the godwave.
I'm sure that would take DD down and is >> Kryptonians.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Like he took the Radiant's blast? Or the Omega Beams?
When I say he could, I mean it is within his capabilities to tank a god blast. Now it wouldn't be a surprise if he didn't the first time, but it also wouldn't be a surprise if he did take the blast the first time, it's well within his durability to take a heavy concussive blast once.
Originally posted by Allankles
When I say he could, I mean it is within his capabilities to tank a god blast. Now it wouldn't be a surprise if he didn't the first time, but it also wouldn't be a surprise if he did take the blast the first time, it's well within his durability to take a heavy concussive blast once.
Hardly.
He wouldn't survive it the first time. The thing damaged a celestial FFS.
Originally posted by Allankles
At his best DD should be able to take a godblast it's not like he hasn't taken similar blasts and the the god blast is just a concussive attack anyway.
😛 Alright. Looks like we're on the same page.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Most versions, no.H/P DD & DD Wars DD, yes.
Originally posted by Eel O'Brien
I think he means overall power, not just energy projection.Example: According to DC, Supes is the most powerful person on the planet. 10 Kryptonians would be roughly 10x as powerful as Supes.
So by saying that the Godblast is greater than 10 Kryptonians, you are saying that Thor's one attack is at least 10x more powerful than anything or anyone on DC Earth.
That seems to be the basis for Avlon's argument and I think he has a point...
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The godblast is a good attack but what has it really done?
Scared away a HORRIBLY WEAKENED Galactus. (Thing has been able to knock down Galactus, does that make him stronger than Thanos?)
Exitars dome: If I remember correctly, the belt of strength, and Thor's hammer both played a role in this.
Stop Juggy temporality... So has cement.
Durok. What durability feats does Durok have?
DD's taken the OE and Guardian blasts and kept coming... I don't see the GB as being any different...especially since he's become stronger since then or unless Thor can match up with Imperiex/10+ kryptonian beatdown.
Eel, Thor's one attack? This isn't your run of the mill lightning, or anything even remotely comparable to that. This is Thor ultimate's attack, it can break his hammer and is far stronger than anything else he can do.
Originally posted by Avlon
👆The godblast is a good attack but what has it really done?
Scared away a HORRIBLY WEAKENED Galactus. (Thing has been able to knock down Galactus, does that make him stronger than Thanos?)
Exitars dome: If I remember correctly, the belt of strength, and Thor's hammer both played a role in this.
Stop Juggy temporality... So has cement.
Durok. What durability feats does Durok have?
DD's taken the OE and Guardian blasts and kept coming... I don't see the GB as being any different...especially since he's become stronger since then or unless Thor can match up with Imperiex/10+ kryptonian beatdown.
- Horribly weakened Galactus my ass. He was hungry, but there's no telling "how weakened he was" and the Thing was never able to knock down Galactus on his own. He was felled by the collective effort of numerous heroes and in the end they happened to fling The Thing at Galactus. In no way did Ben manage to do anything on his own. So please, don't even bother.
- You've never read this, have you? Thor needed to wrap the belt of strength around his hands in order to hold his hammer when firing the god blast. His hammer played a part? OF COURSE IT ****ING DID. It's his hammer, he needs it to channel the godblast. In the end the godblast was so strong that it shattered his hammer. Funny how shielding a blast strong enough to take out 1/5 of the universe didn't ruin his hammer, but the godblast sure did.
- It didn't just stop Juggernaut it stopped him while moving and pushed him back. You can try and bring up PIS events as much as you want, but there are only a handful of people who have been able to stop him in his tracks and force him back.
- Durok fought Thor to a standstill after 8 hours, defeated both Thor and Surfer at same time. In the end Surfer dumped him on a desolate planet hundreds of years into the future. He knocked out Thor and Surfer several times during their bout. Thor did not use the godblast against him.
Thor's god blast shattered the dome of someone whom he could barely touch. Before Thor used the godblast, his anti-matter blast, physical attacks and so on did nothing. Doomsday has a loooong history of being affected by plain punches. Is the godblast stronger than 12 X heat vision or 20 X super punches? Hell yes. It's hundreds of times stronger than anything else Thor has, it's not even remotely comparable to any blast a high herald can produce. The God Blast is beyond Thor.
And really, a new Kryptonian is supposed to be equal to Superman? Come on, we both know this can't be true.
You're probably one of the most knowledgeable DC fans on the board and I really hope you realize that the God Blast isn't like any attack that Thor has. You can try to discredit all of its feats, but you're better than that and you know how silly it is.
Originally posted by Avlonway to downplay thor. you seem to not know anything about his feats and want to compare heat vison to a godblast.
👆The godblast is a good attack but what has it really done?
Scared away a HORRIBLY WEAKENED Galactus. (Thing has been able to knock down Galactus, does that make him stronger than Thanos?)
Exitars dome: If I remember correctly, the belt of strength, and Thor's hammer both played a role in this.
Stop Juggy temporality... So has cement.
Durok. What durability feats does Durok have?
DD's taken the OE and Guardian blasts and kept coming... I don't see the GB as being any different...especially since he's become stronger since then or unless Thor can match up with Imperiex/10+ kryptonian beatdown.
Originally posted by joshypooh
way to downplay thor. you seem to not know anything about his feats and want to compare heat vison to a godblast.
I don't think anyone is comparing the god blast to heat vision. The god blast is a glorified concussive blast, powerful yes but nothing out of the ordinary as far as energy attacks in comics are concerned.
Thing is DD got beat up by a gang of some 10+ kryptonians that's a lot more damaged sustained than a single godblast would dish out.
Originally posted by AvlonDo you really want to compare the godblast to kryptonians energy output?
And I never said it was... read my original statement again...For those of you who can't read.
And anyone who truly believes that a godblast is > the energy output of 10+ kryptonians is either delusional or a fool.
Originally posted by AllanklesThe godblast does more damage is the point. I have seen Doomsday slice through apokolips as if it were butter and he were a knife. He has also taken out green lanterns by the scores.
I don't think anyone is comparing the god blast to heat vision. The god blast is a glorified concussive blast, powerful yes but nothing out of the ordinary as far as energy attacks in comics are concerned.Thing is DD got beat up by a gang of some 10+ kryptonians that's a lot more damaged sustained than a single godblast would dish out.
Originally posted by Allankles
I don't think anyone is comparing the god blast to heat vision. The god blast is a glorified concussive blast, powerful yes but nothing out of the ordinary as far as energy attacks in comics are concerned.Thing is DD got beat up by a gang of some 10+ kryptonians that's a lot more damaged sustained than a single godblast would dish out.
Do you think 10 kryptonians are more powerful than WW accessing the godwave?