Originally posted by Enyalus
Have you ever seen Thor perform the Godblast or are you speaking out of ignorance again?See, I can excuse Avlon because he's a big fan of Superman's. You though, get no such slack.
I've seen the godblast chase off a weakened Galactus based on the speculation of harm. I've seen Juggernaut completely unscathed by it. I've also seen it crack Celestial armor, which a simple Mjolnir throw has also accomplished.
The Godblast is overrated on the forums. Sorry folks.
Originally posted by Bada's Palin
Eel, Thor's one attack? This isn't your run of the mill lightning, or anything even remotely comparable to that. This is Thor ultimate's attack, it can break his hammer and is far stronger than anything else he can do.
Never compared the godblast to run of the mill lightning...
Originally posted by Bada's Palin
- Horribly weakened Galactus my ass. He was hungry, but there's no telling "how weakened he was" and the Thing was never able to knock down Galactus on his own. He was felled by the collective effort of numerous heroes and in the end they happened to fling The Thing at Galactus. In no way did Ben manage to do anything on his own. So please, don't even bother.
Come on Llag? Are you serious with this? Hungry Galan equals a weak Galan. Simple as that. Please dude.
Originally posted by Bada's Palin
- You've never read this, have you? Thor needed to wrap the belt of strength around his hands in order to hold his hammer when firing the god blast. His hammer played a part? OF COURSE IT ****ING DID. It's his hammer, he needs it to channel the godblast. In the end the godblast was so strong that it shattered his hammer. Funny how shielding a blast strong enough to take out 1/5 of the universe didn't ruin his hammer, but the godblast sure did.
Shielding a powerful blast (way back in the silver age of comics when feats were silly no less) is a whole different thing. Supes absored the entire maggedon warhead and DD instantly adapted to waveriders energy. Waverider, you know...that guy in which a piece of his power became extant? Extant a guy who would destroy Thor effortlessly?
DD was absorbing the energy of a guardian who was said to be as powerful as a GL battery. GL battery>>>>>>Mjolnir.
See how easy it is to make comparisons? OH, and Uru isn't the most durable material in the MU..next..
Originally posted by Bada's Palin
- It didn't just stop Juggernaut it stopped him while moving and pushed him back. You can try and bring up PIS events as much as you want, but there are only a handful of people who have been able to stop him in his tracks and force him back.
PIS events like cracking a celestial armor? It's a low feat for a celestial. See how easily that can go both ways?
Originally posted by Bada's Palin
- Durok fought Thor to a standstill after 8 hours, defeated both Thor and Surfer at same time. In the end Surfer dumped him on a desolate planet hundreds of years into the future. He knocked out Thor and Surfer several times during their bout. Thor did not use the godblast against him.
Impressive. Still waiting for a quantifiable durability feat though.
Originally posted by Bada's Palin
Thor's god blast shattered the dome of someone whom he could barely touch. Before Thor used the godblast, his anti-matter blast, physical attacks and so on did nothing. Doomsday has a loooong history of being affected by plain punches. Is the godblast stronger than 12 X heat vision or 20 X super punches? Hell yes. It's hundreds of times stronger than anything else Thor has, it's not even remotely comparable to any blast a high herald can produce. The God Blast is beyond Thor.
Practically every character if affected by punches...especially when it comes to fighting Supes... Thor included. 🙂
If you really think the godblast is stronger than a group of kryptonians..then you are entitled to that opinion.
Originally posted by Bada's Palin
And really, a new Kryptonian is supposed to be equal to Superman? Come on, we both know this can't be true.
Even a "weak" kryptonian under a few minutes of sunlight is significantly powerful. Thor got beat by one...now imagine 10+.
LOL @ the godblast is anywhere near remotely close to fighting a gang of bloodlusted kryptonians.
Originally posted by Bada's Palin
You're probably one of the most knowledgeable DC fans on the board and I really hope you realize that the God Blast isn't like any attack that Thor has. You can try to discredit all of its feats, but you're better than that and you know how silly it is.
I never said it wasn't. It just isn't what it's cracked up to be against someone like DD. Now, relax a bit...you seemd more riled up than usual..
Originally posted by quanchi112
Do you really want to compare the godblast to kryptonians energy output?
Do you?
Originally posted by quanchi112
The godblast does more damage is the point. I have seen Doomsday slice through apokolips as if it were butter and he were a knife. He has also taken out green lanterns by the scores.
Hmm...so the Godblast is more powerful than the OE, Apokolips, and the GL corps.
Great logic there Quan.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Do you think 10 kryptonians are more powerful than WW accessing the godwave?
The godwave is the reason why Kryptonians, Oans et al are super beings and it also created the gods including the Olympian gods which WW is a herald of. So conceptually it's above Thor's godblast.
Originally posted by Allankles
The godwave is the reason why Kryptonians, Oans et al are super beings and it also created the gods including the Olympian gods which WW is a herald of. So conceptually it's above Thor's godblast.
I'm well aware of what the godwave is, i've read Genesis.
The reason i asked this is because it's the closest thing to what the godforce blast is.
It's the essence of what makes Thor a god. It's not merely a concussive force ala optic beams times 100, which is how you seem to be portraying it.
It takes something away from Thor anytime he uses it.
Mind you, i'm not saying godblast = godwave.
What i'm saying is that the energy that created the 3rd world gods and superhumans on the backwind, is akin to the godforce he summons from within, hence it taking something away from him when he uses it.
And to batdude...the feat of the Juggernaut vs the godblast comes from stopping, and then reversing his momentum.
His thing is nothing stops the juggernaut, yet he wasn't only stopped, but pushed back.
Stop warping the nature of the feat.
And to ankles.
I see the godblast as more potent than the OE(especially nowadays) and oan energy.
Originally posted by UniOmni
And to batdude...the feat of the Juggernaut vs the godblast comes from stopping, and then reversing his momentum.
His thing is nothing stops the juggernaut, yet he wasn't only stopped, but pushed back.Stop warping the nature of the feat.
Lawlz. I'm warping nothing. Fact or fiction: after Juggernaut emerged from the hole in the sidewalk, he was none the worse for wear.
Originally posted by Avlon
Even a "weak" kryptonian under a few minutes of sunlight is significantly powerful. Thor got beat by one...now imagine 10+.
I didn't know that Superman just got his powers when they fought. But if you really want to bring that fight into the debate, you know that DC looks far worse than Marvel. Didn't Thor survive the collective attack of Valdius and a bunch of others when he gave his hammer to Superman?
There's no point in debating this further, I'm not going to address your other rebuttals. You're simply not as impressed by the godblast as I was. I think it's stronger than you do, the end.
Originally posted by Bada's Palin
I didn't know that Superman just got his powers when they fought. But if you really want to bring that fight into the debate, you know that DC looks far worse than Marvel. Didn't Thor survive the collective attack of Valdius and a bunch of others when he gave his hammer to Superman?
Great...and since Supes still beat Thor... hmm...
That didn't work out quite the way your like it...
Originally posted by Bada's Palin
There's no point in debating this further, I'm not going to address your other rebuttals. You're simply not as impressed by the godblast as I was. I think it's stronger than you do, the end.
That's what it usually comes out to. People ever rarely change their minds on here anyway. 😉
Originally posted by Avlon
Great...and since Supes still beat Thor... hmm...That didn't work out quite the way your like it...
I'm just saying that the entire book was filled with PIS. No one were being written properly. Unless you consider Wonder Man > Kyle Rayner?
Originally posted by Avlon
That's what it usually comes out to. People ever rarely change their minds on here anyway. 😉
That's not true though, I've changed my opinion regarding a mass of characters here, especially DC characters. But yeah, there's no way either of us will change our opinion here.