Galactus vs. Juggernaut

Started by ultimatethor5 pages
Originally posted by BUSTER1
Why is that nonsense?? Cain is completely invulnerable to physical force. Magic is required to hurt him-and telepathy, but you need to remove his helmet for that

CAins invulnerability to physical force is limited to gthe power of his enchantment and the power of his enchantment is limited to the power of the person that enchanted him i.e Cytorrak. Cyttoraks enchantments are not infinitely powerful and this can be seen with juggernauts unstoppability enchantment being overcome by physical force before. Further galactus is >>>cyttorak so he will easily be able to overcome his enchantment.

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
What about the time Shatterstar cut him in the eye?
I'd assume it was bad writing...attributing to the writer not knowing anything about Juggernaut

the writer prob assumed Juggy was invulnerable only in the armored areas...which is not true

Originally posted by ultimatethor
CAins invulnerability to physical force is limited to gthe power of his enchantment and the power of his enchantment is limited to the power of the person that enchanted him i.e Cytorrak. Cyttoraks enchantments are not infinitely powerful and this can be seen with juggernauts unstoppability enchantment being overcome by physical force before. Further galactus is >>>cyttorak so he will easily be able to overcome his enchantment.
so you're telling me an enchantment cannot be more powerful than the caster of the enchantment?

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
What about the time Shatterstar cut him in the eye?
that was in liefield's X-force book, he was obsessed with his characters
just like the other soon-to-be-image guys. juggernaut was i think stalemated by venom around that time also, a todd mcfarlane creation.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I'd assume it was bad writing...attributing to the writer not knowing anything about Juggernaut

the writer prob assumed Juggy was invulnerable only in the armored areas...which is not true

No, Shatterstar cut him in the eye.

Originally posted by Starscream M
this is another one of those myths that the internet perpetuates and everyone accepts as true with no shred of evidence

where was it ever stated that if you're more powerful than Cytorrak, that means you can injure Juggernaut?

One's enchantment could be vastly more powerful than the being creating that enchantment.

In all seriousness do u have any idea what u r talking about at all? Cyttorak used a fraction HIS OWN power to cast the enchantment on the stone. How in the world would the power of said enchantment be superior to that of cyttorak himself when its only a fraction of cyttoraks power that was used in creating it?

Originally posted by Starscream M
so you're telling me an enchantment cannot be more powerful than the caster of the enchantment?

the only way that is possibe is if the enchanter invokes a higher power to cast the enchantment. e.g Dr strange using the vishantis power to cast a spell.

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
No, Shatterstar cut him in the eye.
supposedly it's because the sword's he uses are forged of magic and science. that didn't stop him from getting owned by wolverine in like 3 panels.

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
No, Shatterstar cut him in the eye.
even though wolverine cannot lay a scratch on him...but i guess Shatterstar is special

Originally posted by Starscream M
even though wolverine cannot lay a scratch on him...but i guess Shatterstar is special

Never saw Wolverine try and stab Cain in the eyes.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
supposedly it's because the sword's he uses are forged of magic and science. that didn't stop him from getting owned by wolverine in like 3 panels.

Yup.

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
Never saw Wolverine try and stab Cain in the eyes.

why would his eyes not be invulnerable like the rest of his skin and body is?

anyways, if the sword is magical, then it is irrelevant in proving that Juggy could be physically harmed.

Originally posted by Starscream M
why would his eyes not be invulnerable like the rest of his skin and body is?

anyways, if the sword is magical, then it is irrelevant in proving that Juggy could be physically harmed.

So the times Hulk stopped him with punches? or physically pushed him back? Or the time Nightcrawler hurt him fire? lmao.

f*** it.

galactus hits him with a beam that leaves juggernaut smoking and near death. galactus then praises his durability but then hits cain with another blast that finishes him off.

No it's not if Shatterstars Sword are capable of penetrating the enchantment produced by Cyttorak, then I see absolutely no reason why Galactus that are capable of trading blasts and injuring a magical being (agamotto) isn't capable.

Added to the logic that Nova broke the Crimson Band of Cyttorak a spell supported by Cyttorak then I see no reason to say that Galactus cannot break the enchantment.

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
So the times Hulk stopped him with punches? or physically pushed him back? Or the time Nightcrawler hurt him fire? lmao.
what does pushing him back or stopping him have to do with hurting him?

as I've repeated before, you can stop Juggy without being able to hurt him PHYSICALLY.

now, you could prob hurt Juggy magically or mystically since his invulnerability derives not from a physical means but rather through a magical enchantment.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
f*** it.

galactus hits him with a beam that leaves juggernaut smoking and near death. galactus then praises his durability but then hits cain with another blast that finishes him off.

cosigned because I'm so fing tired of arguing this

Originally posted by Starscream M
what does pushing him back or stopping him have to do with hurting him?

as I've repeated before, you can stop Juggy without being able to hurt him PHYSICALLY.

now, you could prob hurt Juggy magically or mystically since his invulnerability derives not from a physical means but rather through a magical enchantment.

But the Hulk has physically hurt him.

You didn't even dare mention Nightcrawler.

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
But the Hulk has physically hurt him.
that is just bad writing imo...if thor's godblast didn't hurt him, nothing hulk could do should hurt him

but let's just agree to disagree on this

Originally posted by Bada's Palin

You didn't even dare mention Nightcrawler.

I don't want to comment on something I have never seen...and personally I don't know much about NC at all...didn't even know he had fire abilities

Originally posted by Utrigita
No it's not if Shatterstars Sword are capable of penetrating the enchantment produced by Cyttorak, then I see absolutely no reason why Galactus that are capable of trading blasts and injuring a magical being (agamotto) isn't capable.

Added to the logic that Nova broke the Crimson Band of Cyttorak a spell supported by Cyttorak then I see no reason to say that Galactus cannot break the enchantment.

Its nothing but sheer fantasy to believe that a spell cyttorak cast using a fraction of his power will hold up against a being superior to cyttorak himself.